Speaking of our starting a new project (with gold coins as prizes,
etc), whatever happened to the Peace Demonstration discussed at the
last LPSF meeting? What made me think of that was the headline on
NBC News that "Dems" (I think this word has replaced "Progressive")
will demand to see the Bush Administration's secret list of peace
activists: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15856195/ I can't wait to
get on that list!
Marcy
--- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, Ron Getty <tradergroupe@...>
wrote:
Dear Marcy;
Obviously a very important topic for next months meeting Dec. 9th.
Establishing an annual scholarship for seniors writing on
Libertarianism for San Francsico. I would specifically ask that it be
kept to SF and Libertariansim and using Libertarian principles in SF.
Secondly re-visiting the speakers bureau program for I would say
all middle and high schools - private and public.
We could of course solicit funds through various traditional
sources like bake sales - car washes - flea markets etc etc. etc. or
possibly a mailing to Libertarians on the voters rolls who voted -
specifically asking if they would support a scholarship program - it
never hurts to ask.
Flea market sales of used but decent cast off housewares clothes
books etc and it does raise money. I did that when I was with Amnesty
International and it worked to raise funds for our treasury. Or even
use E-bay to sell products on - that works as well or a garage sale
with items brought to a centralized garage for a garage sale.
Whatever works - works.
Ron Getty
SF Libertarian
From: Amarcy D. Berry <amarcyb@...>
To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 6:18:21 PM
Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Re: thanksgiving lessons and Beyond
Dear Derek, Ron, and All,
I agree with Ron that there is always the pesky question of "who"
each time we have an idea for a "what." But I do believe Derek's
idea of the essay contest is great.
Yes, promotion would be challenging, as Derek says. Sending
announcements to the schools (to the attention of the principal,
clubs, etc.) can work. I have just finished updating my Cabrillo
Civic Clubs Inc mailing list of San Francisco and San Mateo County
High Schools (that is how I spent most of my Thanksgiving Holiday)
to
be ready to send out our yearly scholarship announcement. We get a
lot of responses to our announcements (and give out quite a few
scholarships, which are very modest in amount but appreciated by
the
recipients). I would be happy to print labels from this list if
the
LPSF decideds to mail announcements of the essay contest to the
High
Schools.
Also, student and teachers have taken the initiative of placing the
Cabrillo name in several scholarship websites/lists. So, numerous
students e-mail us as a result of their research. Same could
happen
to the LPSF prize.
Regards,
Marcy
--- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Derek Jensen" <derekj72@>
wrote:
>
> I have another similar idea to which I'd be willing to give money
and time.
>
> - An LPSF scholarship (~$1,000) for high school seniors
attending any
> high school in San Francisco
> - The scholarship contest would be in the form of an essay.
We
would
> require the entrant to some well-known and thorough
libertarian
essay (such
> as by Friedman, Rothbard, etc.), and then write an essay on a
topic like
> "How the ideas in this essay can be applied to increase
liberty
in San
> Francisco"
> - The students could then mail or email in their essays, and
we
could
> have a small committee to judge them and award the prize.
> - The winner could collect it in cash at a monthly LPSF
meeting.
>
> One of the issues would be how to promote it. Sending emails or
letters to
> schools would likely not be enough. Advertisements in one of the
local
> newspapers might be too costly or not get enough attention.
Press
releases
> would likely be ignored. Maybe through the "guidance counselors"
of each
> school whose responsibility it is to organize scholarships?
>
> I'm willing to donate the first $100. If we get pledges
totalling
$1,000,
> then I volunteer to organize the effort.
>
> -Derek
>
> >
> > Dear Marcy;
> >
> > Okie dokie - so where do we find an articulate presentable
spokesperson(s)
> > who don't/doesn't mind speaking in front of people (you mean
you
have to get
> > up in front of strangers??) who is knowledgeable about
Libertarianism and
> > can present it in understandable doses and has the time? There
lies the crux
> > of the matter.... 
> >
> > Ron Getty
> > SF Libertarian
> >
> > From: Amarcy D. Berry <amarcyb@>
> > To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 8:49:01 AM
> > Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Re: thanksgiving lessons and Beyond
> >
> > Yes, Kelly Simpson did do a lot of work speaking before pol-sci
> > classes, as I recall both in public and private schools. I
> > accompanied her once and had a great time. Ron Getty's idea of
> > reviving such a program, and perhaps incorporating the Say
Something
> > Smart Prize, sounds like a good way to reach young people, most
of
> > whom probably never exposed to libertarian thought.
> >
> > Marcy
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Kelly Simpson is our Speaker's Bureau. She's done a terrific
job.
> > >
> > > Best, Michael
> > >
> > > >From: Ron Getty [mailto:tradergroupe@]
> > > >Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 09:11 PM
> > > >To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] Re: thanksgiving lessons and
Beyond
> > > >
> > > >Dear Dr. Mike and Wine Mike;
> > > >
> > > >How about a speakers bureau type of thing to go to poli-sci
> > classes and speak about Libertarianism at public - private and
> > parochial schools as a free service pro bono to provide a broad
based
> > understanding of third party political parties.
> > > >
> > > >Or maybe a rotating group with Green Party and Repubs who in
SF
> > are all minority parties? Ala Phil Berg and Krissy Keefer and
Mike
> > DeNunzio ala their Pelosi debate team...
> > > >
> > > >Ron Getty
> > > >SF Libertarian
> > > >
> > > >From: "dredelstein@" <dredelstein@>
> > > >To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com; lpsf-
discuss@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 5:44:07 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] Re: thanksgiving lessons and
Beyond
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >What I have in mind is simply emailing the announcement to
> > libertarian groups of which there are many. I was not
considering
> > including the Big Govt schools.
> > > >
> > > >But let's hear what Mike D. thinks about all this since it's
his
> > idea.
> > > >
> > > >Best, Michael
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>From: Ron Getty [mailto:tradergroupe@]
> > > >>Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 07:32 PM
> > > >>To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> > > >>Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] Re: thanksgiving lessons and
Beyond
> > > >>
> > > >>Dear Marcy;
> > > >>
> > > >>Good proposal - even if it is a little - cheeky - the
execution
> > would be the problem.
> > > >>
> > > >>If it was sent to principals then the likelihood they would
have
> > it passed out for teachers to look for bright Libertarian
oriented
> > students probably wouldn't work. If it was sent to
administration
or
> > superintendent for handouts to principals or teachers it would
> > probably fall flat. Afterall those people depend on the
largesse
of
> > the government after the guvmint takes the money from taxpayers
to
> > spend on itself.
> > > >>
> > > >>If a way could be found to circumvent the bureaucracy and go
> > straight to the teachers - who may respond - then we might get
> > results.
> > > >>
> > > >>Hoping you having a nice Thanksgiving with family....
> > > >>
> > > >>Ron Getty
> > > >>SF Libertarian
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>From: Amarcy D. Berry <amarcyb@>
> > > >>To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> > > >>Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 12:35:44 PM
> > > >>Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Re: thanksgiving lessons and Beyond
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>I would like to add my congratulations to Derek's daughter
for
> > her
> > > >>courage and to Derek for his great work in raising her.
> > > >>
> > > >>My hope is that Derek's influence will continue into his
kids'
> > teen
> > > >>years and beyond. Mass promotion of products and ideas, by
> > private
> > > >>industry and the government, is a most powerful negative
> > influence on
> > > >>children, and I found it difficult as a parent to overcome
it.
> > > >>Although, I keep trying to this day.
> > > >>
> > > >>Therefore, I would be in favor of a little mass promotion
of
our
> > own,
> > > >>such as Mike D. and Michael E.'s ideas of an award
for "Saying
> > > >>Something Smart." This would be cheecky at best, but maybe
worth
> > > >>consideration?: Mail an announcement of the prize to every
> > > >>elementary school in the city, asking for submissions from
> > students,
> > > >>critique the responses (oportunity for libertarian
promotion),
> > and
> > > >>award a prize when applicable.
> > > >>
> > > >>Marcy
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>--- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Christopher R. Maden"
> > > >><crism@> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Derek Jensen wrote:
> > > >>> > My daughter raised her hand and said "I don't really
see
what
> > > >>there is
> > > >>> > to be thankful for. Mostly the government just steals
our
> > money
> > > >>and
> > > >>> > wastes it on itself."
> > > >>>
> > > >>> And now I know exactly what I'm thankful for this
Thanksgiving:
> > > >>that Derek
> > > >>> and other libertarians are raising their children right,
and
> > that
> > > >>perhaps
> > > >>> - perhaps - my pessimism about coming generations might be
> > > >>unfounded.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ~Chris
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> Christopher R. Maden, Principal Consultant, crism
consulting