You're right about shop courses. Most of My college bound friends ended up in shop fields.
Ron when and how did our present ed systm began?
Did Brown vs Board of Ed balloon the system?
You're right about shop courses. Most of My college bound friends ended up in shop fields.
Ron when and how did our present ed systm began?
Did Brown vs Board of Ed balloon the system?
Dear Ron and Eric,
I readily admit that I am a conspiracy theorist, and having said
that, here is my take on the relatively new fashion of pushing all
kids to attend four-year colleges rather than encourage those who
wish to take shop courses or guild apprentiships: the enormous
profits generated by private lenders of *government guaranteed*
school loans. I would bet most of these loans are for white collar
professions generated in the four year colleges, as well as
professional schools (law schools, medical schools, etc.). And I
would bet this lucrative market would not exist if more kids were not
told by people they trust (parents, teachers, councellors) that they
are failures unless they attend college.
Marcy
--- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "eric dupree"
<dupreeconsults@...> wrote:
You're right about shop courses. Most of My college bound friends
ended up in shop fields.
Ron when and how did our present ed systm began?
Did Brown vs Board of Ed balloon the system?
> From: "Ron Getty" <tradergroupe@...>
> To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] SF Examiner Publishes My Anti-School
LTE With Affiliation
> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 12:51:18 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
> Dear Phil;
>
> They wouldn't be forced to at all - it would be their choice to
get
> an education for their children.
>
> If there were no government schools there would be a vast array
of
> private schools and parochial schools or even neighborhood
schools
> or home schooling schools. There would be choices and I would be
> willing to bet there would be schools for parents children where
> the parents did not have enough income to pay for schooling where
> there would be scholarships to cover the costs of the schooling.
Or
> even wealthy people doanating schools for children to attend.
>
> I believe the choices made available through free enterprise
would
> make it possible to have each child have an educational choice
> including having children being taught the profit making
potentials
> for a lifetime of employment in "shop courses" like electrician -
> carpentry - auto repair - plumbing - carpentry where once you
have
> those skill sets you are employed for life - even if you didn't
> attend some fancy ivy league college.
>
> Ron getty
> SF Libertarian
>
> From: Philip Berg <philzberg@...>
> To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 12:38:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] SF Examiner Publishes My Anti-School
> LTE With Affiliation
>
>
> Ron, Great letter, but I would like to know how parents would be
> forced to send their kids to school?
> From: Ron Getty
> To: Libertarian Yahoo Group ; Salon_Liberty@yahoogroups.com ; CAL-
LIBS
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 7:20 AM
> Subject: [lpsf-discuss] SF Examiner Publishes My Anti-School LTE
> With Affiliation
>
>
> Dear Everyone;
>
> After the $3 million school study was released showing California
> schools were having serious problems the SF Examiner had an
> editorial about the problems. I took the opportunity to present a
> radical fix for California schools along with some pertinent
facts
> and the SF Examiner agreed and published with affiliation.
>
> Right below my LTE was one from a school librarian talking about
> the lack of librarians. Here's a fact I found for a previous op-
ed:
> California has 4,000 school psychologists but only 1,000 school
> librarians. Priorities seem a little skewed.
>
> Ron Getty
> SF Libertarian
>
>
> http://www.examiner.com/a-628590~Letters__March_20__2007.html
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2ln6fy
>
> Letters: March 20, 2007
> How to fix poorly performing schools
> California's defective government school system needs a radical
fix
> ["A chance to deliver school reform," March 19].
> The gargantuan $63 billion school system is a public jobs program
> with highly paid "baby sitters" averaging $56,000 in pay; 6.3
> million students attend 9,300 schools with 300,000 teachers and
> 25,000 support personnel. The Department of Education has another
> 2,500 employees and a $300 million budget.
> Politicians and school bureaucrats control government schools
> miring them in legislation and red tape-ridden bureaucratic
> guidelines. Politicians dictating what's taught and how it's
taught
> results in dumbed-down curriculum with emphasis on passing
mandated