Eric,
What evidence do you have to support your statement that "Obama seems genuinely interested in dismantling the police state?" Thanks.
Marge
Hi Marge;
He's taken some positive steps in that direction by clsoing
Guantanamo, cancelling contracts with Blackwater, and opposing
torture. A few of his cabinet picks too have been noted critics of
police brutality, lack of due process, and the prison industrial
complex generally. It's too early to tell how far he'll go; but he
seems to be going in the right direction.
--- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Parkhurst"
<rmparkhurst@...> wrote:
Eric,
What evidence do you have to support your statement that "Obama
seems genuinely interested in dismantling the police state?" Thanks.
Marge
From: ERIC
To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 2/23/2009 5:49:19 PM
Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Re: Guardsmen in Iowa have scrapped the
plan for training on the implementation of tyranny.
More and more such plans will be scrapped. Obama seems genuinely
interested in dismantling the police state, and there's also too
much
public exposure going on. People aren't readily accepting anymore
that a uniform is an entitlement.--- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, John Perna <savefreedom2005@>
wrote:
>
>
> Guardsmen in Iowa have scrapped the plan for training on the
implementation of tyranny.
> http://targetfreedom.typepad.com/targetfreedom/2009/02/guardsmen-
scrapped-tyranny-training.html
>
>
> Guardsmen had planned to conduct urban training to apprehend
a "suspected weapons dealer." The word got out and they backed off.
>
> This is NOT how to find a weapons dealer in a free country. In a
free country you find a weapons dealer by looking in the yellow
pages. This was to be a brainwashing, and a conditioning, exercise
to
accommodate the population, and the guardsmen, to the
implementation
of tyranny.
> The original article appeared as follows:
> Guardsmen to conduct urban training at Arcadia in April
> By BUTCH HEMAN
> Staff Writer
>
> The Carroll National Guard unit will train on urban military
operations by holding a four-day exercise at Arcadia.
>
> The purpose of the April 2-5 drill will be to gather
intelligence,
then search for and apprehend a suspected weapons dealer, according
to Sgt. Mike Kots, readiness NCO for Alpha Company.
>
> Citizens, law enforcement, media and other supporters will
participate.
>
> Troops will spend Thursday, April 2, staging at a forward
operations base at Carroll. The next day company leaders will
conduct
reconnaissance and begin patrolling the streets of Arcadia to
identify possible locations of the weapons dealer.
>
> The primary phase will be done Saturday, April 4, when convoys
will
be deployed from Carroll to Arcadia. Pictures of the arms dealer
will
be shown in Arcadia, and soldiers will go door to door asking if
residents have seen the suspect.
>
> Soldiers will knock only at households that have agreed to
participate in the drill, Kots noted.
>
> "Once credible intelligence has been gathered," said
Kots, "portions of the town will be road-blocked and more in-depth
searches of homes and vehicles will be conducted in accordance with
the residents' wishes.
>
> "One of the techniques we use in today's political environment is
cordon and knock," Kots explained. "We ask for the head of the
household, get permission to search, then have them open doors and
cupboards. The homeowner maintains control. We peer over their
shoulder, and the soldier uses the homeowner's body language and
position to protect him."
>
> During this phase of the operation, troops will interact with
residents and media while implementing crowd-control measures and
possibly treating and evacuating injured persons.
>
> The unit will use a Blackhawk helicopter for overhead command and
control, and to simulate medevacs.
>
> The drill will culminate in the apprehension of the suspected
arms
dealer.
>
> Alpha Company will conduct a review of the drill on Sunday, April
5.
>
> A meeting to give residents more information and accept
volunteers
will be held 7 p.m. Monday, March 2, in the Arcadia American Legion
hall.
>
> Kots said the exercise will replace Alpha Company's weekend drill
for April.
>
> "We have a lot of extended drills this coming year," he added.
>
> In addition to surveillance, searching and apprehension, the
exercise will also give the troops valuable experience in
stability,
support, patrol, traffic control, vehicle searches and other skills
needed for deployment in an urban environment.
>
> "This exercise will improve the real-life operational skills of
the
unit," said Kots. "And it will hopefully improve the public's
understanding of military operations."
>
> The pre-drill work with residents is as important at the drill
itself.
>
> "It will be important for us to gain the trust and confidence of
the residents of Arcadia," said Kots. "We will need to identify
individuals that are willing to assist us in training by allowing
us
to search their homes and vehicles and to participate in role-
playing."
>
> "We really want to get as much information out there as possible,
because this operation could be pretty intrusive to the people of
Arcadia."
> http://www.carrollspaper.com/main.asp?
Search=1&ArticleID=7451&SectionID=1&SubSectionID=&S=1
>
> HERE IS THE ARTICLE ABOUT THE UPDATE:
> WorldNetDaily – A Free Press For A Free People Since 1997
>
>
> POLICE STATE, USA
>
> Global Gun Grab (Paperback) by William Norman Grigg
> Global Gun Grab: The United Nations Campaign to Disarm Americans: Grigg, William Norman: 9781881919056: Amazon.com: Books?
ie=UTF8&seller=A1AVPSERX4QF0E&sn=jperna12
>
>
>
>
> Are you looking for a book about defending liberty?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Many rare and out of print books are still available.
> Look here:
> Amazon.com
>
> Then look here:
> http://astore.amazon.com/targetfreedom-20
>
> Then look here:
>
>
> http://www.shopjbs.org/magento/ Visit the ultimate resource for
defending liberty
>
> CLICK HERE:
> http://targetfreedom.typepad.com:80/
>
> 1. Links to liberty defending organizations
> 2. Links to liberty defending web pages
> 3. Links to A MASSIVE assortment of liberty defending videos
> 4. A stream lined system for contacting legislators with
suggested
letters
> 5. Links to liberty defending egroups
> 6. Links to magazines, literature and other materials
>
>
> Censorship of these kind of links is rampant. Adding spaces is
the
He hasn't closed Guantanamo
He just looks like an impetuous child who didn't think thru any of the
pertinent details
i.e., unimportant little details like suspending due process,
torturing suspects, military tribunals for civilian crimes, &c. Not
as us unimpetuous, we suppose, as Bush who practically suspended the
constitution in the name of 'national security'.
He hasn't closed Guantanamo
He just looks like an impetuous child who didn't think thru any of
the
pertinent details
> Hi Marge;
>
> He's taken some positive steps in that direction by clsoing
> Guantanamo, cancelling contracts with Blackwater, and opposing
> torture. A few of his cabinet picks too have been noted critics of
> police brutality, lack of due process, and the prison industrial
> complex generally. It's too early to tell how far he'll go; but he
> seems to be going in the right direction.
>
> --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com <lpsf-discuss%
40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Robert Parkhurst"
> <rmparkhurst@> wrote:
> >
> > Eric,
> > What evidence do you have to support your statement that "Obama
> seems genuinely interested in dismantling the police state?"
Thanks.
> > Marge
> >
> >
> > From: ERIC
> > To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com <lpsf-discuss%
40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: 2/23/2009 5:49:19 PM
> > Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Re: Guardsmen in Iowa have scrapped the
> plan for training on the implementation of tyranny.
> >
> >
> > More and more such plans will be scrapped. Obama seems genuinely
> > interested in dismantling the police state, and there's also too
> much
> > public exposure going on. People aren't readily accepting
anymore
> > that a uniform is an entitlement.
> >
> > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com <lpsf-discuss%
40yahoogroups.com>,
> John Perna <savefreedom2005@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Guardsmen in Iowa have scrapped the plan for training on the
> > implementation of tyranny.
> > >
http://targetfreedom.typepad.com/targetfreedom/2009/02/guardsmen-
> > scrapped-tyranny-training.html
> > >
> > >
> > > Guardsmen had planned to conduct urban training to apprehend
> > a "suspected weapons dealer." The word got out and they backed
off.
> > >
> > > This is NOT how to find a weapons dealer in a free country.
In a
> > free country you find a weapons dealer by looking in the yellow
> > pages. This was to be a brainwashing, and a conditioning,
exercise
> to
> > accommodate the population, and the guardsmen, to the
> implementation
> > of tyranny.
> > > The original article appeared as follows:
> > > Guardsmen to conduct urban training at Arcadia in April
> > > By BUTCH HEMAN
> > > Staff Writer
> > >
> > > The Carroll National Guard unit will train on urban military
> > operations by holding a four-day exercise at Arcadia.
> > >
> > > The purpose of the April 2-5 drill will be to gather
> intelligence,
> > then search for and apprehend a suspected weapons dealer,
according
> > to Sgt. Mike Kots, readiness NCO for Alpha Company.
> > >
> > > Citizens, law enforcement, media and other supporters will
> > participate.
> > >
> > > Troops will spend Thursday, April 2, staging at a forward
> > operations base at Carroll. The next day company leaders will
> conduct
> > reconnaissance and begin patrolling the streets of Arcadia to
> > identify possible locations of the weapons dealer.
> > >
> > > The primary phase will be done Saturday, April 4, when convoys
> will
> > be deployed from Carroll to Arcadia. Pictures of the arms dealer
> will
> > be shown in Arcadia, and soldiers will go door to door asking if
> > residents have seen the suspect.
> > >
> > > Soldiers will knock only at households that have agreed to
> > participate in the drill, Kots noted.
> > >
> > > "Once credible intelligence has been gathered," said
> > Kots, "portions of the town will be road-blocked and more in-
depth
> > searches of homes and vehicles will be conducted in accordance
with
> > the residents' wishes.
> > >
> > > "One of the techniques we use in today's political
environment is
> > cordon and knock," Kots explained. "We ask for the head of the
> > household, get permission to search, then have them open doors
and
> > cupboards. The homeowner maintains control. We peer over their
> > shoulder, and the soldier uses the homeowner's body language and
> > position to protect him."
> > >
> > > During this phase of the operation, troops will interact with
> > residents and media while implementing crowd-control measures
and
> > possibly treating and evacuating injured persons.
> > >
> > > The unit will use a Blackhawk helicopter for overhead command
and
> > control, and to simulate medevacs.
> > >
> > > The drill will culminate in the apprehension of the suspected
> arms
> > dealer.
> > >
> > > Alpha Company will conduct a review of the drill on Sunday,
April
> 5.
> > >
> > > A meeting to give residents more information and accept
> volunteers
> > will be held 7 p.m. Monday, March 2, in the Arcadia American
Legion
> > hall.
> > >
> > > Kots said the exercise will replace Alpha Company's weekend
drill
> > for April.
> > >
> > > "We have a lot of extended drills this coming year," he added.
> > >
> > > In addition to surveillance, searching and apprehension, the
> > exercise will also give the troops valuable experience in
> stability,
> > support, patrol, traffic control, vehicle searches and other
skills
> > needed for deployment in an urban environment.
> > >
> > > "This exercise will improve the real-life operational skills
of
> the
> > unit," said Kots. "And it will hopefully improve the public's
> > understanding of military operations."
> > >
> > > The pre-drill work with residents is as important at the drill
> > itself.
> > >
> > > "It will be important for us to gain the trust and confidence
of
> > the residents of Arcadia," said Kots. "We will need to identify
> > individuals that are willing to assist us in training by
allowing
> us
> > to search their homes and vehicles and to participate in role-
> > playing."
> > >
> > > "We really want to get as much information out there as
possible,
> > because this operation could be pretty intrusive to the people
of
> > Arcadia."
> > > http://www.carrollspaper.com/main.asp?
> > Search=1&ArticleID=7451&SectionID=1&SubSectionID=&S=1
> > >
> > > HERE IS THE ARTICLE ABOUT THE UPDATE:
> > > WorldNetDaily – A Free Press For A Free People Since 1997
> > >
> > >
> > > POLICE STATE, USA
> > >
> > > Global Gun Grab (Paperback) by William Norman Grigg
> > > Global Gun Grab: The United Nations Campaign to Disarm Americans: Grigg, William Norman: 9781881919056: Amazon.com: Books?
> > ie=UTF8&seller=A1AVPSERX4QF0E&sn=jperna12
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Are you looking for a book about defending liberty?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Many rare and out of print books are still available.
> > > Look here:
> > > Amazon.com
> > >
> > > Then look here:
> > > http://astore.amazon.com/targetfreedom-20
> > >
> > > Then look here:
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.shopjbs.org/magento/ Visit the ultimate resource
for
> > defending liberty
> > >
> > > CLICK HERE:
> > > http://targetfreedom.typepad.com:80/
> > >
> > > 1. Links to liberty defending organizations
> > > 2. Links to liberty defending web pages
> > > 3. Links to A MASSIVE assortment of liberty defending videos
> > > 4. A stream lined system for contacting legislators with
> suggested
> > letters
> > > 5. Links to liberty defending egroups
> > > 6. Links to magazines, literature and other materials
> > >
> > >
> > > Censorship of these kind of links is rampant. Adding spaces is
> the
> > usual method.
> > >
> > >
> > > If the link is not clickable try pasting it into the address
bar.
> > > Remove extra spaces if need be.
> > > Or try clicking on the link as it appears in the blog at:
> > > http://targetfreedom.typepad.com/targetfreedom/
> > > Surf the REST of the blog while you are there.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > IF CENSORSHIP OCCURS THE CREDIBILITY OF THE MESSAGE IS
AFFIRMED.
> > WOULD GOVERNMENT TRY TO STIFLE A MESSAGE THAT IS NOT EXPOSING
THE
then you should have re-named the topic of the original thread
I hate Bush and here is why
instead of attempting to dazzle with us that something that Nobama didn't do
the jackoff pandered to some group he thought was his base.....big deal
he didn't improve the situation from a security standpoint, he didn't
rectify any real or perceived civil liberties issues, and he ultimately
created more problems for himself from a logistical, legal, ethical
standpoint...........
did I miss anything..? Oh, yeah, he's articulate..........
Actually, you should have read the original thread, since I wasn't
the one who originated it. And Obama WILL close Guantanamo as soon as
the logistics are worked out. Hopefully, he'll follow suit and close
all the other illegal prisons in this country.
What does clsoing Guantanamo accomplish? It makes us something other
than a rogue regime in world opinion. It puts us back on the premise
that America is country of due process. From a civil liberties
standpoint, it can't help but have ramifications against the prison-
industrial complex and unaccountable police departments that have
been preying on Americans for the last several years.
then you should have re-named the topic of the original thread
I hate Bush and here is why
instead of attempting to dazzle with us that something that Nobama
didn't do
the jackoff pandered to some group he thought was his base.....big
deal
he didn't improve the situation from a security standpoint, he
didn't
rectify any real or perceived civil liberties issues, and he
ultimately
created more problems for himself from a logistical, legal, ethical
standpoint...........did I miss anything..? Oh, yeah, he's articulate..........
> i.e., unimportant little details like suspending due process,
> torturing suspects, military tribunals for civilian crimes, &c.
Not
> as us unimpetuous, we suppose, as Bush who practically suspended
the
> constitution in the name of 'national security'.
>
>
> --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com <lpsf-discuss%
40yahoogroups.com>,
> Glenn Rapp <runnz63@> wrote:
> >
> > He hasn't closed Guantanamo
> >
> > He just looks like an impetuous child who didn't think thru any
of
> the
> > pertinent details
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hi Marge;
> > >
> > > He's taken some positive steps in that direction by clsoing
> > > Guantanamo, cancelling contracts with Blackwater, and opposing
> > > torture. A few of his cabinet picks too have been noted
critics of
> > > police brutality, lack of due process, and the prison
industrial
> > > complex generally. It's too early to tell how far he'll go;
but he
> > > seems to be going in the right direction.
> > >
> > > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com <lpsf-discuss%
40yahoogroups.com><lpsf-discuss%
> 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "Robert Parkhurst"
> > > <rmparkhurst@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Eric,
> > > > What evidence do you have to support your statement
that "Obama
> > > seems genuinely interested in dismantling the police state?"
> Thanks.
> > > > Marge
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: ERIC
> > > > To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com <lpsf-discuss%
40yahoogroups.com><lpsf-discuss%
> 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: 2/23/2009 5:49:19 PM
> > > > Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Re: Guardsmen in Iowa have scrapped
the
> > > plan for training on the implementation of tyranny.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > More and more such plans will be scrapped. Obama seems
genuinely
> > > > interested in dismantling the police state, and there's
also too
> > > much
> > > > public exposure going on. People aren't readily accepting
> anymore
> > > > that a uniform is an entitlement.
> > > >
> > > > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com <lpsf-discuss%
40yahoogroups.com><lpsf-discuss%
> 40yahoogroups.com>,
>
> > > John Perna <savefreedom2005@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Guardsmen in Iowa have scrapped the plan for training on
the
> > > > implementation of tyranny.
> > > > >
> http://targetfreedom.typepad.com/targetfreedom/2009/02/guardsmen-
> > > > scrapped-tyranny-training.html
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Guardsmen had planned to conduct urban training to
apprehend
> > > > a "suspected weapons dealer." The word got out and they
backed
> off.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is NOT how to find a weapons dealer in a free
country.
> In a
> > > > free country you find a weapons dealer by looking in the
yellow
> > > > pages. This was to be a brainwashing, and a conditioning,
> exercise
> > > to
> > > > accommodate the population, and the guardsmen, to the
> > > implementation
> > > > of tyranny.
> > > > > The original article appeared as follows:
> > > > > Guardsmen to conduct urban training at Arcadia in April
> > > > > By BUTCH HEMAN
> > > > > Staff Writer
> > > > >
> > > > > The Carroll National Guard unit will train on urban
military
> > > > operations by holding a four-day exercise at Arcadia.
> > > > >
> > > > > The purpose of the April 2-5 drill will be to gather
> > > intelligence,
> > > > then search for and apprehend a suspected weapons dealer,
> according
> > > > to Sgt. Mike Kots, readiness NCO for Alpha Company.
> > > > >
> > > > > Citizens, law enforcement, media and other supporters will
> > > > participate.
> > > > >
> > > > > Troops will spend Thursday, April 2, staging at a forward
> > > > operations base at Carroll. The next day company leaders
will
> > > conduct
> > > > reconnaissance and begin patrolling the streets of Arcadia
to
> > > > identify possible locations of the weapons dealer.
> > > > >
> > > > > The primary phase will be done Saturday, April 4, when
convoys
> > > will
> > > > be deployed from Carroll to Arcadia. Pictures of the arms
dealer
> > > will
> > > > be shown in Arcadia, and soldiers will go door to door
asking if
> > > > residents have seen the suspect.
> > > > >
> > > > > Soldiers will knock only at households that have agreed to
> > > > participate in the drill, Kots noted.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Once credible intelligence has been gathered," said
> > > > Kots, "portions of the town will be road-blocked and more
in-
> depth
> > > > searches of homes and vehicles will be conducted in
accordance
> with
> > > > the residents' wishes.
> > > > >
> > > > > "One of the techniques we use in today's political
> environment is
> > > > cordon and knock," Kots explained. "We ask for the head of
the
> > > > household, get permission to search, then have them open
doors
> and
> > > > cupboards. The homeowner maintains control. We peer over
their
> > > > shoulder, and the soldier uses the homeowner's body
language and
> > > > position to protect him."
> > > > >
> > > > > During this phase of the operation, troops will interact
with
> > > > residents and media while implementing crowd-control
measures
> and
> > > > possibly treating and evacuating injured persons.
> > > > >
> > > > > The unit will use a Blackhawk helicopter for overhead
command
> and
> > > > control, and to simulate medevacs.
> > > > >
> > > > > The drill will culminate in the apprehension of the
suspected
> > > arms
> > > > dealer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Alpha Company will conduct a review of the drill on
Sunday,
> April
> > > 5.
> > > > >
> > > > > A meeting to give residents more information and accept
> > > volunteers
> > > > will be held 7 p.m. Monday, March 2, in the Arcadia American
> Legion
> > > > hall.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kots said the exercise will replace Alpha Company's
weekend
> drill
> > > > for April.
> > > > >
> > > > > "We have a lot of extended drills this coming year," he
added.
> > > > >
> > > > > In addition to surveillance, searching and apprehension,
the
> > > > exercise will also give the troops valuable experience in
> > > stability,
> > > > support, patrol, traffic control, vehicle searches and other
> skills
> > > > needed for deployment in an urban environment.
> > > > >
> > > > > "This exercise will improve the real-life operational
skills
> of
> > > the
> > > > unit," said Kots. "And it will hopefully improve the
public's
> > > > understanding of military operations."
> > > > >
> > > > > The pre-drill work with residents is as important at the
drill
> > > > itself.
> > > > >
> > > > > "It will be important for us to gain the trust and
confidence
> of
> > > > the residents of Arcadia," said Kots. "We will need to
identify
> > > > individuals that are willing to assist us in training by
> allowing
> > > us
> > > > to search their homes and vehicles and to participate in
role-
> > > > playing."
> > > > >
> > > > > "We really want to get as much information out there as
> possible,
> > > > because this operation could be pretty intrusive to the
people
> of
> > > > Arcadia."
> > > > > http://www.carrollspaper.com/main.asp?
> > > > Search=1&ArticleID=7451&SectionID=1&SubSectionID=&S=1
> > > > >
> > > > > HERE IS THE ARTICLE ABOUT THE UPDATE:
> > > > > WorldNetDaily – A Free Press For A Free People Since 1997
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > POLICE STATE, USA
> > > > >
> > > > > Global Gun Grab (Paperback) by William Norman Grigg
> > > > > Global Gun Grab: The United Nations Campaign to Disarm Americans: Grigg, William Norman: 9781881919056: Amazon.com: Books?
> > > > ie=UTF8&seller=A1AVPSERX4QF0E&sn=jperna12
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you looking for a book about defending liberty?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Many rare and out of print books are still available.
> > > > > Look here:
> > > > > Amazon.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Then look here:
> > > > > http://astore.amazon.com/targetfreedom-20
> > > > >
> > > > > Then look here:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.shopjbs.org/magento/ Visit the ultimate
resource
> for
> > > > defending liberty
> > > > >
> > > > > CLICK HERE:
> > > > > http://targetfreedom.typepad.com:80/
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Links to liberty defending organizations
> > > > > 2. Links to liberty defending web pages
> > > > > 3. Links to A MASSIVE assortment of liberty defending
videos
> > > > > 4. A stream lined system for contacting legislators with
> > > suggested
> > > > letters
> > > > > 5. Links to liberty defending egroups
> > > > > 6. Links to magazines, literature and other materials
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Censorship of these kind of links is rampant. Adding
spaces is
> > > the
> > > > usual method.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If the link is not clickable try pasting it into the
address
> bar.
> > > > > Remove extra spaces if need be.
> > > > > Or try clicking on the link as it appears in the blog at:
> > > > > http://targetfreedom.typepad.com/targetfreedom/
> > > > > Surf the REST of the blog while you are there.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > IF CENSORSHIP OCCURS THE CREDIBILITY OF THE MESSAGE IS
> AFFIRMED.
> > > > WOULD GOVERNMENT TRY TO STIFLE A MESSAGE THAT IS NOT
EXPOSING
Oh,
I thought you said that he had closed Guantanamo..........ooops, that is
what you said.
Now you say when he WILL close Guantanamo........
when this cocksure jackoff figures out which way is up.......what you
mean....
Now, Glenn, relax....take a deep breath... Obama IS going to close
Guantanamo. He just can't do everything in 3 weeks. Just like he
won't ahve the troops out of Iraq for a few more months.
Oh,
I thought you said that he had closed Guantanamo..........ooops,
that is
what you said.
Now you say when he WILL close Guantanamo........
when this cocksure jackoff figures out which way is up.......what
you
mean....
> Actually, you should have read the original thread, since I
wasn't
> the one who originated it. And Obama WILL close Guantanamo as
soon as
> the logistics are worked out. Hopefully, he'll follow suit and
close
> all the other illegal prisons in this country.
>
> What does clsoing Guantanamo accomplish? It makes us something
other
> than a rogue regime in world opinion. It puts us back on the
premise
> that America is country of due process. From a civil liberties
> standpoint, it can't help but have ramifications against the
prison-
> industrial complex and unaccountable police departments that have
> been preying on Americans for the last several years.
>
> --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com <lpsf-discuss%
40yahoogroups.com>,
> Glenn Rapp <runnz63@> wrote:
> >
> > then you should have re-named the topic of the original thread
> >
> > I hate Bush and here is why
> >
> > instead of attempting to dazzle with us that something that
Nobama
> didn't do
> >
> > the jackoff pandered to some group he thought was his
base.....big
> deal
> >
> > he didn't improve the situation from a security standpoint, he
> didn't
> > rectify any real or perceived civil liberties issues, and he
> ultimately
> > created more problems for himself from a logistical, legal,
ethical
> > standpoint...........
> >
> > did I miss anything..? Oh, yeah, he's articulate..........
> >
> >
> > > i.e., unimportant little details like suspending due process,
> > > torturing suspects, military tribunals for civilian crimes,
&c.
> Not
> > > as us unimpetuous, we suppose, as Bush who practically
suspended
> the
> > > constitution in the name of 'national security'.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com <lpsf-discuss%
40yahoogroups.com><lpsf-discuss%
> 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > Glenn Rapp <runnz63@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > He hasn't closed Guantanamo
> > > >
> > > > He just looks like an impetuous child who didn't think thru
any
> of
> > > the
> > > > pertinent details
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Marge;
> > > > >
> > > > > He's taken some positive steps in that direction by
clsoing
> > > > > Guantanamo, cancelling contracts with Blackwater, and
opposing
> > > > > torture. A few of his cabinet picks too have been noted
> critics of
> > > > > police brutality, lack of due process, and the prison
> industrial
> > > > > complex generally. It's too early to tell how far he'll
go;
> but he
> > > > > seems to be going in the right direction.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com<lpsf-discuss%
40yahoogroups.com><lpsf-discuss%
> 40yahoogroups.com><lpsf-discuss%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > > "Robert Parkhurst"
> > > > > <rmparkhurst@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Eric,
> > > > > > What evidence do you have to support your statement
> that "Obama
> > > > > seems genuinely interested in dismantling the police
state?"
> > > Thanks.
> > > > > > Marge
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: ERIC
> > > > > > To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com<lpsf-discuss%
40yahoogroups.com><lpsf-discuss%
> 40yahoogroups.com><lpsf-discuss%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > Sent: 2/23/2009 5:49:19 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Re: Guardsmen in Iowa have
scrapped
> the
> > > > > plan for training on the implementation of tyranny.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > More and more such plans will be scrapped. Obama seems
> genuinely
> > > > > > interested in dismantling the police state, and there's
> also too
> > > > > much
> > > > > > public exposure going on. People aren't readily
accepting
> > > anymore
> > > > > > that a uniform is an entitlement.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com<lpsf-discuss%
40yahoogroups.com><lpsf-discuss%
> 40yahoogroups.com><lpsf-discuss%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > >
> > > > > John Perna <savefreedom2005@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Guardsmen in Iowa have scrapped the plan for training
on
> the
> > > > > > implementation of tyranny.
> > > > > > >
> > >
http://targetfreedom.typepad.com/targetfreedom/2009/02/guardsmen-
> > > > > > scrapped-tyranny-training.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Guardsmen had planned to conduct urban training to
> apprehend
> > > > > > a "suspected weapons dealer." The word got out and they
> backed
> > > off.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is NOT how to find a weapons dealer in a free
> country.
> > > In a
> > > > > > free country you find a weapons dealer by looking in the
> yellow
> > > > > > pages. This was to be a brainwashing, and a
conditioning,
> > > exercise
> > > > > to
> > > > > > accommodate the population, and the guardsmen, to the
> > > > > implementation
> > > > > > of tyranny.
> > > > > > > The original article appeared as follows:
> > > > > > > Guardsmen to conduct urban training at Arcadia in
April
> > > > > > > By BUTCH HEMAN
> > > > > > > Staff Writer
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Carroll National Guard unit will train on urban
> military
> > > > > > operations by holding a four-day exercise at Arcadia.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The purpose of the April 2-5 drill will be to gather
> > > > > intelligence,
> > > > > > then search for and apprehend a suspected weapons
dealer,
> > > according
> > > > > > to Sgt. Mike Kots, readiness NCO for Alpha Company.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Citizens, law enforcement, media and other supporters
will
> > > > > > participate.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Troops will spend Thursday, April 2, staging at a
forward
> > > > > > operations base at Carroll. The next day company leaders
> will
> > > > > conduct
> > > > > > reconnaissance and begin patrolling the streets of
Arcadia
> to
> > > > > > identify possible locations of the weapons dealer.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The primary phase will be done Saturday, April 4, when
> convoys
> > > > > will
> > > > > > be deployed from Carroll to Arcadia. Pictures of the
arms
> dealer
> > > > > will
> > > > > > be shown in Arcadia, and soldiers will go door to door
> asking if
> > > > > > residents have seen the suspect.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Soldiers will knock only at households that have
agreed to
> > > > > > participate in the drill, Kots noted.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Once credible intelligence has been gathered," said
> > > > > > Kots, "portions of the town will be road-blocked and
more
> in-
> > > depth
> > > > > > searches of homes and vehicles will be conducted in
> accordance
> > > with
> > > > > > the residents' wishes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "One of the techniques we use in today's political
> > > environment is
> > > > > > cordon and knock," Kots explained. "We ask for the head
of
> the
> > > > > > household, get permission to search, then have them open
> doors
> > > and
> > > > > > cupboards. The homeowner maintains control. We peer over
> their
> > > > > > shoulder, and the soldier uses the homeowner's body
> language and
> > > > > > position to protect him."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > During this phase of the operation, troops will
interact
> with
> > > > > > residents and media while implementing crowd-control
> measures
> > > and
> > > > > > possibly treating and evacuating injured persons.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The unit will use a Blackhawk helicopter for overhead
> command
> > > and
> > > > > > control, and to simulate medevacs.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The drill will culminate in the apprehension of the
> suspected
> > > > > arms
> > > > > > dealer.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Alpha Company will conduct a review of the drill on
> Sunday,
> > > April
> > > > > 5.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A meeting to give residents more information and
accept
> > > > > volunteers
> > > > > > will be held 7 p.m. Monday, March 2, in the Arcadia
American
> > > Legion
> > > > > > hall.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kots said the exercise will replace Alpha Company's
> weekend
> > > drill
> > > > > > for April.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "We have a lot of extended drills this coming year,"
he
> added.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In addition to surveillance, searching and
apprehension,
> the
> > > > > > exercise will also give the troops valuable experience
in
> > > > > stability,
> > > > > > support, patrol, traffic control, vehicle searches and
other
> > > skills
> > > > > > needed for deployment in an urban environment.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "This exercise will improve the real-life operational
> skills
> > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > > unit," said Kots. "And it will hopefully improve the
> public's
> > > > > > understanding of military operations."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The pre-drill work with residents is as important at
the
> drill
> > > > > > itself.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "It will be important for us to gain the trust and
> confidence
> > > of
> > > > > > the residents of Arcadia," said Kots. "We will need to
> identify
> > > > > > individuals that are willing to assist us in training by
> > > allowing
> > > > > us
> > > > > > to search their homes and vehicles and to participate in
> role-
> > > > > > playing."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "We really want to get as much information out there
as
> > > possible,
> > > > > > because this operation could be pretty intrusive to the
> people
> > > of
> > > > > > Arcadia."
> > > > > > > http://www.carrollspaper.com/main.asp?
> > > > > > Search=1&ArticleID=7451&SectionID=1&SubSectionID=&S=1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > HERE IS THE ARTICLE ABOUT THE UPDATE:
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > POLICE STATE, USA
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > Global Gun Grab: The United Nations Campaign to Disarm Americans: Grigg, William Norman: 9781881919056: Amazon.com: Books?
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at:
Eric
You just keep marching like a penguin every time this guy tells you to do
something.......
and in the meanwhile..... keep lecturing the rest of us on how to achieve
Liberty thru conformity
LOL! So far (unlike Bush) Obama hasn't told us to do ANYTHING! Mainly
he's doing what the so-called 'conservatives' should have been doing:
getting government off our backs; proposing genuine tax cuts; reining
in corporations to promote the free market; and loosening controls on
civil liberties.
Eric
You just keep marching like a penguin every time this guy tells you
to do
something.......
and in the meanwhile..... keep lecturing the rest of us on how to
achieve
Liberty thru conformity
> Now, Glenn, relax....take a deep breath... Obama IS going to
close
> Guantanamo. He just can't do everything in 3 weeks. Just like he
> won't ahve the troops out of Iraq for a few more months.
>
>
> --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com <lpsf-discuss%
40yahoogroups.com>,
> Glenn Rapp <runnz63@> wrote:
> >
> > Oh,
> >
> > I thought you said that he had closed Guantanamo..........ooops,
> that is
> > what you said.
> >
> > Now you say when he WILL close Guantanamo........
> >
> > when this cocksure jackoff figures out which way is
up.......what
> you
> > mean....
> >
> >
> > > Actually, you should have read the original thread, since I
> wasn't
> > > the one who originated it. And Obama WILL close Guantanamo as
> soon as
> > > the logistics are worked out. Hopefully, he'll follow suit and
> close
> > > all the other illegal prisons in this country.
> > >
> > > What does clsoing Guantanamo accomplish? It makes us something
> other
> > > than a rogue regime in world opinion. It puts us back on the
> premise
> > > that America is country of due process. From a civil liberties
> > > standpoint, it can't help but have ramifications against the
> prison-
> > > industrial complex and unaccountable police departments that
have
> > > been preying on Americans for the last several years.
> > >
> > > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com <lpsf-discuss%
40yahoogroups.com><lpsf-discuss%
> 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > Glenn Rapp <runnz63@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > then you should have re-named the topic of the original
thread
> > > >
> > > > I hate Bush and here is why
> > > >
> > > > instead of attempting to dazzle with us that something that
> Nobama
> > > didn't do
> > > >
> > > > the jackoff pandered to some group he thought was his
> base.....big
> > > deal
> > > >
> > > > he didn't improve the situation from a security standpoint,
he
> > > didn't
> > > > rectify any real or perceived civil liberties issues, and he
> > > ultimately
> > > > created more problems for himself from a logistical, legal,
> ethical
> > > > standpoint...........
> > > >
> > > > did I miss anything..? Oh, yeah, he's articulate..........
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > i.e., unimportant little details like suspending due
process,
> > > > > torturing suspects, military tribunals for civilian
crimes,
> &c.
> > > Not
> > > > > as us unimpetuous, we suppose, as Bush who practically
> suspended
> > > the
> > > > > constitution in the name of 'national security'.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com<lpsf-discuss%
40yahoogroups.com><lpsf-discuss%
> 40yahoogroups.com><lpsf-discuss%
>
> > > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > > Glenn Rapp <runnz63@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He hasn't closed Guantanamo
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He just looks like an impetuous child who didn't think
thru
> any
> > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > > pertinent details
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Marge;
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > He's taken some positive steps in that direction by
> clsoing
> > > > > > > Guantanamo, cancelling contracts with Blackwater, and
> opposing
> > > > > > > torture. A few of his cabinet picks too have been
noted
> > > critics of
> > > > > > > police brutality, lack of due process, and the prison
> > > industrial
> > > > > > > complex generally. It's too early to tell how far
he'll
> go;
> > > but he
> > > > > > > seems to be going in the right direction.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com<lpsf-discuss%
40yahoogroups.com>
> <lpsf-discuss%
> 40yahoogroups.com><lpsf-discuss%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com><lpsf-discuss%
> > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > > > > "Robert Parkhurst"
> > > > > > > <rmparkhurst@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Eric,
> > > > > > > > What evidence do you have to support your statement
> > > that "Obama
> > > > > > > seems genuinely interested in dismantling the police
> state?"
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > > > > > Marge
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: ERIC
> > > > > > > > To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com<lpsf-discuss%
40yahoogroups.com>
> <lpsf-discuss%
> 40yahoogroups.com><lpsf-discuss%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com><lpsf-discuss%
> > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > > Sent: 2/23/2009 5:49:19 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Re: Guardsmen in Iowa have
> scrapped
> > > the
> > > > > > > plan for training on the implementation of tyranny.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > More and more such plans will be scrapped. Obama
seems
> > > genuinely
> > > > > > > > interested in dismantling the police state, and
there's
> > > also too
> > > > > > > much
> > > > > > > > public exposure going on. People aren't readily
> accepting
> > > > > anymore
> > > > > > > > that a uniform is an entitlement.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com<lpsf-discuss%
40yahoogroups.com>
> <lpsf-discuss%
> 40yahoogroups.com><lpsf-discuss%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com><lpsf-discuss%
> > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > >
> > > > > > > John Perna <savefreedom2005@>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Guardsmen in Iowa have scrapped the plan for
training
> on
> > > the
> > > > > > > > implementation of tyranny.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> http://targetfreedom.typepad.com/targetfreedom/2009/02/guardsmen-
> > > > > > > > scrapped-tyranny-training.html
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Guardsmen had planned to conduct urban training to
> > > apprehend
> > > > > > > > a "suspected weapons dealer." The word got out and
they
> > > backed
> > > > > off.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This is NOT how to find a weapons dealer in a free
> > > country.
> > > > > In a
> > > > > > > > free country you find a weapons dealer by looking
in the
> > > yellow
> > > > > > > > pages. This was to be a brainwashing, and a
> conditioning,
> > > > > exercise
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > accommodate the population, and the guardsmen, to
the
> > > > > > > implementation
> > > > > > > > of tyranny.
> > > > > > > > > The original article appeared as follows:
> > > > > > > > > Guardsmen to conduct urban training at Arcadia in
> April
> > > > > > > > > By BUTCH HEMAN
> > > > > > > > > Staff Writer
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The Carroll National Guard unit will train on
urban
> > > military
> > > > > > > > operations by holding a four-day exercise at
Arcadia.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The purpose of the April 2-5 drill will be to
gather
> > > > > > > intelligence,
> > > > > > > > then search for and apprehend a suspected weapons
> dealer,
> > > > > according
> > > > > > > > to Sgt. Mike Kots, readiness NCO for Alpha Company.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Citizens, law enforcement, media and other
supporters
> will
> > > > > > > > participate.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Troops will spend Thursday, April 2, staging at a
> forward
> > > > > > > > operations base at Carroll. The next day company
leaders
> > > will
> > > > > > > conduct
> > > > > > > > reconnaissance and begin patrolling the streets of
> Arcadia
> > > to
> > > > > > > > identify possible locations of the weapons dealer.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The primary phase will be done Saturday, April 4,
when
> > > convoys
> > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > be deployed from Carroll to Arcadia. Pictures of the
> arms
> > > dealer
> > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > be shown in Arcadia, and soldiers will go door to
door
> > > asking if
> > > > > > > > residents have seen the suspect.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Soldiers will knock only at households that have
> agreed to
> > > > > > > > participate in the drill, Kots noted.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Once credible intelligence has been gathered,"
said
> > > > > > > > Kots, "portions of the town will be road-blocked and
> more
> > > in-
> > > > > depth
> > > > > > > > searches of homes and vehicles will be conducted in
> > > accordance
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > > the residents' wishes.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "One of the techniques we use in today's political
> > > > > environment is
> > > > > > > > cordon and knock," Kots explained. "We ask for the
head
> of
> > > the
> > > > > > > > household, get permission to search, then have them
open
> > > doors
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > cupboards. The homeowner maintains control. We peer
over
> > > their
> > > > > > > > shoulder, and the soldier uses the homeowner's body
> > > language and
> > > > > > > > position to protect him."
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > During this phase of the operation, troops will
> interact
> > > with
> > > > > > > > residents and media while implementing crowd-control
> > > measures
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > possibly treating and evacuating injured persons.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The unit will use a Blackhawk helicopter for
overhead
> > > command
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > control, and to simulate medevacs.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The drill will culminate in the apprehension of
the
> > > suspected
> > > > > > > arms
> > > > > > > > dealer.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Alpha Company will conduct a review of the drill
on
> > > Sunday,
> > > > > April
> > > > > > > 5.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > A meeting to give residents more information and
> accept
> > > > > > > volunteers
> > > > > > > > will be held 7 p.m. Monday, March 2, in the Arcadia
> American
> > > > > Legion
> > > > > > > > hall.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Kots said the exercise will replace Alpha
Company's
> > > weekend
> > > > > drill
> > > > > > > > for April.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "We have a lot of extended drills this coming
year,"
> he
> > > added.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In addition to surveillance, searching and
> apprehension,
> > > the
> > > > > > > > exercise will also give the troops valuable
experience
> in
> > > > > > > stability,
> > > > > > > > support, patrol, traffic control, vehicle searches
and
> other
> > > > > skills
> > > > > > > > needed for deployment in an urban environment.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "This exercise will improve the real-life
operational
> > > skills
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > unit," said Kots. "And it will hopefully improve the
> > > public's
> > > > > > > > understanding of military operations."
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The pre-drill work with residents is as important
at
> the
> > > drill
> > > > > > > > itself.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "It will be important for us to gain the trust and
> > > confidence
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > the residents of Arcadia," said Kots. "We will need
to
> > > identify
> > > > > > > > individuals that are willing to assist us in
training by
> > > > > allowing
> > > > > > > us
> > > > > > > > to search their homes and vehicles and to
participate in
> > > role-
> > > > > > > > playing."
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "We really want to get as much information out
there
> as
> > > > > possible,
> > > > > > > > because this operation could be pretty intrusive to
the
> > > people
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > Arcadia."
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