Dear All,
A little while back we mentioned how the LPSF lists were unusually
respectful and civilized. Judging by the uncalled for vitriol that I
read in other lists, I heartily agree. As one of the list's
moderators, I would like to keep the LPSF lists free of personal
attacks. Respectful discourse regarding a problem, yes. News from
other counties, yes. Personal attacks, no. The multiple postings do
bother some of us, and proper behavior might suggest refraining from
them; but perhaps they are not as egregious as the negative content
that most times accompaies them.
Thank you all, and regards,
Marcy Berry
Dear Richard...you know I love you.
But....I'd agree with you if there was a clear Libertarian
communication
channel. However the Libertarian market demands many Libertarian
communication channels. That you are connected to many is a clear
indicator that many are important.
As Libertarians...we can expect to deal with communication
interference
and suspect most Libertarians can too.
The message is most important. Norm is addressing something that
transcends the method of communication. Do you have something to say
about his message or are you more interested in the style/method of
his
communications.
Michael Denny
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From: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com [mailto:lpsf-
discuss@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Richard Newell
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 1:05 AM
To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] Re: Bruce Cohen Damages the CALP and its
Members
Good suggestion, Marcy.
And, I also request that Norm stop sending us five or so copies of
every
one of his polemics. Please chose the most appropriate list for
your
comments, and trust that the interested audience will be subscribed
to
that list, rather than bombarding us all on multiple lists.
Rich
From: Amarcy D. Berry <mailto:amarcyb@…>
To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:29 PM
Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Re: Bruce Cohen Damages the CALP and
its
Members
Dear Norm,
Is there any way that you could work things out with Bruce,
without
causing further discord? Thank you for trying.
Best regards,
Marcy Berry
Vice Chair
San Francisco
--- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
>
> Recommend action: Immediately remove Bruce Cohen as
Chairperson of
the
> CALP Communications Committee as his demonstrated
negligence,
> unprofessional conduct and lack of communication skills
clearly harm
> and damage the CALP and its members.
>
> In my honest opinion, Bruce Cohen continues to demonstrate
his
> remarkable negligence and is acutely un-qualified to
administer the
> responsibilities required to produce a periodical
publication
or to
> effectively communicate electronically as he has been tasked
to do
as
> Chairperson of the CALP Communications Committee.
>
> Here in Orange County, we used to have a regular newsletter
that
went
> out on time and under budget. Bruce Cohen was instrumental
in
> influencing the change from a simple one color black and
white
> newsletter to an expensive and labor-intensive multi page,
4-color
> format. Bruce called the new publication a "magazine" and
assured
> everyone he would be able to self-fund the new expensive
magazine
with
> advertising. He said the new magazine would attract
advertisers
that
> the old newsletter could not. He was wrong (as usual). He
did
not
> fulfill his promise. The new magazine is now published
infrequently
> and is over budget. In my opinion Bruce's involvement
changing
our
> low cost newsletter to an overly expensive "magazine" has
been
a
train
> wreck. The editor of our newsletter was a published author.
After
> Bruce became involved with the new "magazine" our editor
resigned.
He
> was disgusted with Bruce's demeaning behavior wanted no more
of him.
> (This seems to be a recurring theme with individuals who
come
in
> contact with Mr. Cohen here in Orange County) As a result,
the
long
> time member and previous editor of our newsletter is no
longer
> involved with the LP, directly caused by the actions of
Bruce
Cohen.
>
> Today, Bruce Cohen is the CALP Chairperson of the Member
> Communications Committee. He is responsible for overseeing
the
> production of the party newspaper and any e-mail
communications.
> Since becoming Chairperson, the editor of the California
Freedom
> newspaper, the editor of CF has resigned. The monthly CF
periodical
> publication is no longer produced monthly.
>
> The CALP has agreed to provide each dues paying member a
monthly
> California Freedom. This entitlement has not been fulfilled.
This
> constitutes fraud against all members of the CALP by the
CALP.
As
the
> Communications Committee Chairperson, Bruce Cohen is
directly
> responsible for this negligence and must now be held
accountable for
> this dereliction of duty, which has brought disrepute to the
CALP
> organization.
>
> Since members are no longer being informed and have incurred
damages
> by the fraudulent activities of the CALP caused by the
apparent
> negligence of Bruce Cohen, are we to assume the CALP is now
dark?
>
> Additionally, in an attempt to place a display ad with the
California
> Freedom, Bruce Cohen has failed to effectively communicate
in
a
> positive, professional, manner to my serious inquiry to
spend
money
> with the publication. The following email exchange sent to
> editor@ and was replied to by Bruce Cohen,
> clearly demonstrates he is ill qualified as Chairperson of
the
> Communications Committee.
>
> Original email sent to editor@ on 7/6/06
> Norm Westwell <normw@> wrote:
> Our committee is interested in advertising in the California
Freedom
> publication.
> Please send me a complete media kit for evaluation and
kindly
answer
> these questions:
> Why has the publication stopped being produced?
> When is the next issue going to be produced and distributed?
> Thank you.
> Norm Westwell
> 17171 Englewood Cr.
> Huntington Beach, CA 92647
>
> Norm Firecracker Westwell - Huntington Beach, CA
> normw@
>
> \ | /
> > THERE IS A PRICE FOR BEING FREE
> > Torch of Liberty, enlightening the world
>
> www.ModernPublic.com
> It's your government - GET INVOLVED!
> ==============================
> 7/7/06 Response by Bruce Cohen
>
> Mister Westwell,
> We thank you for your inquiry.
> The previous editor did not have a media kit.
> However, we do welcome advertising, subject
> to our advertising guideleines and standards.
> I will forward you a rate sheet when I return to
> California in two days.
> Thank you again.
> Bruce Cohen
> 949 813-8001
> 866 OC Bruce - Toll Free - 866 622-7823
> Chair - Libertarian Party of Orange County
> WWW.LPOC.Net
>
> Libertarian for US Congress
> WWW.GetBruce.Com
>
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> =========================
>
> My reply sent to editor@ on 7/7/06. As of
> 7/12/06, 10pm I still have not received a reply.
>
> Dear Mr. Bruce Cohen.
>
> We are both disheartened and disturbed by your non-reply to
our
> committee's inquiry regarding advertising in the California
Freedom
> newspaper.
>
> As the chairperson of the California Libertarian Parties
Member
> Communications committee, you are responsible for overseeing
the
> production of the party newspaper and any e-mail
communications.
>
> Your e-mail reply was completely unresponsive to our 2
simple
requests
> in our 5 sentence, 45 word inquiry.
>
> Is this the way you respond to all media requests to
organizations
> interested in spending money to advertise?
>
> This is now our second request for a response to the two
simple
> questions you completely failed to address in our first e-
mail
> communication:
>
> 1. Why has the publication stopped being produced?
> 2. When is the next issue going to be produced and
distributed?
>
> Your failure to respond to either of our 2 simple, direct
questions
> causes us to question your competency to
> administer such an important committee leadership position
and
whether
> our committee should risk our treasure
> advertising with a publication whose leadership demonstrates
such
poor
> communication skills.
>
> As the committee chair it is YOUR responsibility to provide
inquiring
> advertisers with the advertising materials normally provided
by
> publications, specifically an advertising media kit
containing
> mechanical specifications, line screens, file types,
deadlines,
etc.
> Producing and providing these materials is not the normal
duties of
a
> publication editor, past or present. Your response
that, "The
> previous editor did not have a media kit" clearly
demonstrates
that
> even after your lengthily term as chair of the Member
Communication,
> you have failed to provide such a basic and necessary tool
which all
> advertisers require. Placing the blame on others for your
leadership
> failures is unbecoming and reprehensible.
>
> Our committee does not require a rate card as it is easily
available
> on the ca.lp.org website. Your offering to forward it to us
is
a
waste
> of both your time and ours.
>
> We continue to require a media kit as quickly as you can
make
one
> available. You have also kindly indicated the California
Freedom has
> certain advertising guidelines and standards. Please make
these
> materials available as quickly as possible as well so we may
avoid
any
> guideline or standard issues and may begin advertising as
quickly as
> possible.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Norm Westwell
> 17171 Englewood Cr.
> Huntington Beach, CA 92647
>
>
> Recommend action: Immediately remove Bruce Cohen as
Chairperson of
the
> CALP Communications Committee as his demonstrated
negligence,