Political Chat - This Wednesday

David,

Great topic! Due to the short notice, I'm unable
to make it tonight. How about same day, time,
place, and topic in one week, Wed. 4 Feb?

Best, Michael

Thanks Michael.. Yup, sorry for the late notice but
it's been one of those weeks already. However, I will
be there tonight regardless of who shows up. If there
are less than 3 I'll take your suggestion and roll
this topic over to next week.

Also, I've set aside every weds night for the next
month or two to make sure things go smoothly and
consistently.

cheers, David

BTW - the first person to show tonight eats free! I'm
offering up my $10 gift certificate as a bonus.

--- "Dr. Michael R. Edelstein"
<DrEdelstein@...> wrote:

David,

Great topic! Due to the short notice, I'm unable
to make it tonight. How about same day, time,
place, and topic in one week, Wed. 4 Feb?

Best, Michael

From: "David Rhodes" <dfrhodes@...>
To: <lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 5:02 PM
Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Political Chat - This
Wednesday

> Hi Everyone -
>
> Just to let you know, the Political Chat is back!
>
> I'd like to change the time and place back to
> Wednesday at the Sheesh Mahal, if no one complains
too
> loudly. I realize there was a poll taken
previously
> that indicated 2 more people would prefer Tuesdays
> rather than Wednesdays. But as that hasn't seemed
to
> work so far, I think it's time to revert back to
the
> previous venue and gain back some critical mass. I
> don't want to beat the dead horse again on the
pro's
> and con's of Sheesh Mahal, but it's generally
quiet
> with large and available tables. Also, we had
> outstanding service from Sheesh Mahal last week at
AF,
> so hopefully that will continue as well.
>
> So here are the details -
>
> Time: Wednesday, January 28th, 7:00 - 10:00 p.m.
> Location: Sheesh Mahal (Indian Restaurant) -1117
Polk
> St. (Post/Sutter), 415 775-3888
>
> Topics:
> ---------------
> Okay, I have two topics I think will be of
interest -
> one LP related, and one libertarian oriented.
>
> 1. "Libertarian Fundamentalism vs.. Incrementalism
-
> Should a choice be made?"
>
> Abstract - This is probably one of the oldest
internal
> debates in the party, but as this is an election
year
> it may be coming to a head. Basically, there are
many
> members who believe that the best way forward is
to
> stick rigidly to the LP core values at whatever
the
> cost to electability. Taxes and government
programs
> would be slashed immediately following a White
House
> win. Common slogan -"If we can't act as the party
of
> principle, then why bother at all?". Then there
are
> others who believe the LP should use 'reasonable'
> methods to get into office and gradually enact
freedom
> over time, even though it may mean committing acts
of
> force along the way.
>
> Potential Points for Discussion -
>
> - So what are the metrics of success for the
> Libertarian Party? Complete dominance of all
public
> offices or just general adoption of real freedom?
> - Is the LP better positioned for success as an
> extremist party that forces other parties to
change?
> - Is it okay to break campaign promises once in
office
> if they weren't acts of initiation of force?
>
> 2. "Private Cities"
>
> Abstract - One of the most common questions I get
as a
> libertarian is "Don't we need government to
provide
> roads?". And I think it's one of the more
difficult
> aspects of practical libertarianism to argue,
mainly
> due to a perception that there are too few
examples of
> private roads actually working. I think the best
> example is in Las Vegas, where most people assume
the
> government is running things where they are not -
>
>

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David,

  I think that certificate is only good at Maharani, not Sheesh Mahal. I noticed at the Activist Forum, by the way, that the paper menus there now say "Maharani Express" instead of Sheesh Mahal. Perhaps you can confirm tonight whether they've formally changed the name. I don't think I'll be there because I have another engagement.

Yours in liberty,
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