Petitions

Hi everyone,

I went to Safeway yesterday and stopped to talk to a
petitioner who wanted me to sign a petition to 'help
the homeless.' He and his friend also had petitions to
recall Gray Davis. When I came out of Safeway, he and
his friend were asking people to sign petions NOT to
recall Davis. I thought this was a little strange, and
after speaking to him some more, he and his friend
said that they get a dollar for each signature they
get. At some point inthe discussion I informed them
that I also got people to sign petitions to recall
Davis. His friend's eyes lit up and asked me how much
money I made. I told him it's about how much money
I'll SAVE when we stand up and get corrupt politicians
out of office, and about using my individual right as
an American to get signatures that will have such an
impact, which is worth much more to me than getting
paid for some petition I know nothing about, or don't
care about. They continued asking people to sign
Recall and No-Recall petitions, and I walked away,
confused again about our present political system, and
what sort of impact these petitions would have. Anyone
want to comment on this one?

Dave Barker

What specifically is the problem you see, and what do you see in "our present political system" as the cause?

Cheers,
Steve

Steve,

I guess I was just surprised to see that there are
people out there that our getting paid to get
signatures from others which could place issues up for
a vote, whether they agreed, cared, or even knew
anything about the issue, and the fact that they were
willing to carry both opposing petitions to one issue.
I was also wondering if they were even thinking about
how an issue might effect their/our livelihood if it
gets on the ballot and passes thanks to their paid
work (whatever the issue may be). It was just another
learning experience for me about the political process
(our political system).

Dave Barker.

--- Steve Dekorte <steve@...> wrote:

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They continued asking people to sign
Recall and No-Recall petitions, and I walked away,
confused again about our present political system, and
what sort of impact these petitions would have. Anyone
want to comment on this one?

The recall petition is part of the electoral process; it is certified by
the same mechanism as other formal processes, each registered voter can
only be counted once, etc.

The anti-recall petition is completely non-functional; all it does is let
Davis supporters say a certain number of people signed it.

I was advised by a Libertarian petition circulator to sign the anti-recall
one as many times as I like. Each time I do, $1 leaves the Davis group's
pockets in a non-productive way.

~Chris
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Is the LP officially pro recall, or do we just like to drain the economy
of the competing parties on general principle?

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Is the LP officially pro recall, or do we just like to drain the economy
of the competing parties on general principle?

We endorsed the recall at the state convention in February.

Though draining the major parties' coffers, especially into the pockets of
Libertarian petitioners, is always a good thing.

~Chris

P.S. I met a libertarian friend of yours from Stockholm - Marcus - at Pride
this weekend.
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