Marcy,
Since Marc Joffe presented the idea at the meeting, he would be the one to ask. In addition, Phil has made progress on this project.
Best, Michael
Hi Michael,
Glad Phil is working on this. Thanks.
Marcy
Marcy,
Since Marc Joffe presented the idea at the meeting, he would be the
one to ask. In addition, Phil has made progress on this project.
Best, Michael
>From: Amarcy D. Berry [mailto:amarcyb@…]
>Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 08:25 AM
>To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Peace Demonstration?
>
>Speaking of our starting a new project (with gold coins as prizes,
>etc), whatever happened to the Peace Demonstration discussed at
the
>last LPSF meeting? What made me think of that was the headline on
>NBC News that "Dems" (I think this word has
replaced "Progressive")
>will demand to see the Bush Administration's secret list of peace
>activists: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15856195/ I can't wait to
>get on that list!
>
>Marcy
>
>
>
>
>
>--- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, Ron Getty <tradergroupe@>
>wrote:
>>
>> Dear Marcy;
>>
>> Obviously a very important topic for next months meeting Dec.
9th.
>Establishing an annual scholarship for seniors writing on
>Libertarianism for San Francsico. I would specifically ask that it
be
>kept to SF and Libertariansim and using Libertarian principles in
SF.
>>
>> Secondly re-visiting the speakers bureau program for I would say
>all middle and high schools - private and public.
>>
>> We could of course solicit funds through various traditional
>sources like bake sales - car washes - flea markets etc etc. etc.
or
>possibly a mailing to Libertarians on the voters rolls who voted -
>specifically asking if they would support a scholarship program -
it
>never hurts to ask.
>>
>> Flea market sales of used but decent cast off housewares clothes
>books etc and it does raise money. I did that when I was with
Amnesty
>International and it worked to raise funds for our treasury. Or
even
>use E-bay to sell products on - that works as well or a garage
sale
>with items brought to a centralized garage for a garage sale.
>>
>> Whatever works - works.
>>
>> Ron Getty
>> SF Libertarian
>>
>>
>> From: Amarcy D. Berry <amarcyb@>
>> To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 6:18:21 PM
>> Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Re: thanksgiving lessons and Beyond
>>
>>
>> Dear Derek, Ron, and All,
>>
>> I agree with Ron that there is always the pesky question
of "who"
>> each time we have an idea for a "what." But I do believe
Derek's
>> idea of the essay contest is great.
>>
>> Yes, promotion would be challenging, as Derek says. Sending
>> announcements to the schools (to the attention of the principal,
>> clubs, etc.) can work. I have just finished updating my
Cabrillo
>> Civic Clubs Inc mailing list of San Francisco and San Mateo
County
>> High Schools (that is how I spent most of my Thanksgiving
Holiday)
>to
>> be ready to send out our yearly scholarship announcement. We
get a
>> lot of responses to our announcements (and give out quite a few
>> scholarships, which are very modest in amount but appreciated by
>the
>> recipients). I would be happy to print labels from this list if
>the
>> LPSF decideds to mail announcements of the essay contest to the
>High
>> Schools.
>>
>> Also, student and teachers have taken the initiative of placing
the
>> Cabrillo name in several scholarship websites/lists. So,
numerous
>> students e-mail us as a result of their research. Same could
>happen
>> to the LPSF prize.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Marcy
>>
>> --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Derek Jensen" <derekj72@>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I have another similar idea to which I'd be willing to give
money
>> and time.
>> >
>> > - An LPSF scholarship (~$1,000) for high school seniors
>> attending any
>> > high school in San Francisco
>> > - The scholarship contest would be in the form of an
essay.
>We
>> would
>> > require the entrant to some well-known and thorough
>libertarian
>> essay (such
>> > as by Friedman, Rothbard, etc.), and then write an essay on
a
>> topic like
>> > "How the ideas in this essay can be applied to increase
>liberty
>> in San
>> > Francisco"
>> > - The students could then mail or email in their essays,
and
>we
>> could
>> > have a small committee to judge them and award the prize.
>> > - The winner could collect it in cash at a monthly LPSF
>meeting.
>> >
>> > One of the issues would be how to promote it. Sending emails
or
>> letters to
>> > schools would likely not be enough. Advertisements in one of
the
>> local
>> > newspapers might be too costly or not get enough attention.
>Press
>> releases
>> > would likely be ignored. Maybe through the "guidance
counselors"
>> of each
>> > school whose responsibility it is to organize scholarships?
>> >
>> > I'm willing to donate the first $100. If we get pledges
>totalling
>> $1,000,
>> > then I volunteer to organize the effort.
>> >
>> > -Derek
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Dear Marcy;
>> > >
>> > > Okie dokie - so where do we find an articulate presentable
>> spokesperson(s)
>> > > who don't/doesn't mind speaking in front of people (you mean
>you
>> have to get
>> > > up in front of strangers??) who is knowledgeable about
>> Libertarianism and
>> > > can present it in understandable doses and has the time?
There
>> lies the crux
>> > > of the matter....
>> > >
>> > > Ron Getty
>> > > SF Libertarian
>> > >
>> > > From: Amarcy D. Berry <amarcyb@>
>> > > To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
>> > > Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 8:49:01 AM
>> > > Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Re: thanksgiving lessons and Beyond
>> > >
>> > > Yes, Kelly Simpson did do a lot of work speaking before pol-
sci
>> > > classes, as I recall both in public and private schools. I
>> > > accompanied her once and had a great time. Ron Getty's idea
of
>> > > reviving such a program, and perhaps incorporating the Say
>> Something
>> > > Smart Prize, sounds like a good way to reach young people,
most
>of
>> > > whom probably never exposed to libertarian thought.
>> > >
>> > > Marcy
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Kelly Simpson is our Speaker's Bureau. She's done a
terrific
>> job.
>> > > >
>> > > > Best, Michael
>> > > >
>> > > > >From: Ron Getty [mailto:tradergroupe@]
>> > > > >Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 09:11 PM
>> > > > >To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
>> > > > >Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] Re: thanksgiving lessons and
>> Beyond
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Dear Dr. Mike and Wine Mike;
>> > > > >
>> > > > >How about a speakers bureau type of thing to go to poli-
sci
>> > > classes and speak about Libertarianism at public - private
and
>> > > parochial schools as a free service pro bono to provide a
broad
>> based
>> > > understanding of third party political parties.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Or maybe a rotating group with Green Party and Repubs who
in
>SF
>> > > are all minority parties? Ala Phil Berg and Krissy Keefer
and
>> Mike
>> > > DeNunzio ala their Pelosi debate team...
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Ron Getty
>> > > > >SF Libertarian
>> > > > >
>> > > > >From: "dredelstein@" <dredelstein@>
>> > > > >To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com; lpsf-
>discuss@yahoogroups.com
>> > > > >Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 5:44:07 PM
>> > > > >Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] Re: thanksgiving lessons and
>Beyond
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >What I have in mind is simply emailing the announcement to
>> > > libertarian groups of which there are many. I was not
>considering
>> > > including the Big Govt schools.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >But let's hear what Mike D. thinks about all this since
it's
>> his
>> > > idea.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Best, Michael
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >>From: Ron Getty [mailto:tradergroupe@]
>> > > > >>Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 07:32 PM
>> > > > >>To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
>> > > > >>Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] Re: thanksgiving lessons and
>> Beyond
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>Dear Marcy;
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>Good proposal - even if it is a little - cheeky - the
>> execution
>> > > would be the problem.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>If it was sent to principals then the likelihood they
would
>> have
>> > > it passed out for teachers to look for bright Libertarian
>oriented
>> > > students probably wouldn't work. If it was sent to
>administration
>> or
>> > > superintendent for handouts to principals or teachers it
would
>> > > probably fall flat. Afterall those people depend on the
>largesse
>> of
>> > > the government after the guvmint takes the money from
taxpayers
>to
>> > > spend on itself.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>If a way could be found to circumvent the bureaucracy
and go
>> > > straight to the teachers - who may respond - then we might
get
>> > > results.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>Hoping you having a nice Thanksgiving with family....
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>Ron Getty
>> > > > >>SF Libertarian
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>From: Amarcy D. Berry <amarcyb@>
>> > > > >>To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
>> > > > >>Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 12:35:44 PM
>> > > > >>Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Re: thanksgiving lessons and
Beyond
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>I would like to add my congratulations to Derek's
daughter
>for
>> > > her
>> > > > >>courage and to Derek for his great work in raising her.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>My hope is that Derek's influence will continue into his
>kids'
>> > > teen
>> > > > >>years and beyond. Mass promotion of products and ideas,
by
>> > > private
>> > > > >>industry and the government, is a most powerful negative
>> > > influence on
>> > > > >>children, and I found it difficult as a parent to
overcome
>it.
>> > > > >>Although, I keep trying to this day.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>Therefore, I would be in favor of a little mass
promotion
>of
>> our
>> > > own,
>> > > > >>such as Mike D. and Michael E.'s ideas of an award
>for "Saying
>> > > > >>Something Smart." This would be cheecky at best, but
maybe
>> worth
>> > > > >>consideration?: Mail an announcement of the prize to
every
>> > > > >>elementary school in the city, asking for submissions
from
>> > > students,
>> > > > >>critique the responses (oportunity for libertarian
>promotion),
>> > > and
>> > > > >>award a prize when applicable.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>Marcy
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>--- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Christopher R.
Maden"
>> > > > >><crism@> wrote:
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Derek Jensen wrote:
>> > > > >>> > My daughter raised her hand and said "I don't really
>see
>> what
>> > > > >>there is
>> > > > >>> > to be thankful for. Mostly the government just
steals
>our
>> > > money
>> > > > >>and
>> > > > >>> > wastes it on itself."
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> And now I know exactly what I'm thankful for this
>> Thanksgiving:
>> > > > >>that Derek
>> > > > >>> and other libertarians are raising their children
right,
>and
>> > > that
>> > > > >>perhaps
>> > > > >>> - perhaps - my pessimism about coming generations
might be
>> > > > >>unfounded.
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> ~Chris
>> > > > >>> --
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