Starchild,
It was a fact, in late 2004, that while there was "instant
functionality" (reading some sort of meaning into this buzz phrase)
providing access to the National LP database, the content was
thoroughly screwed up. I know, because I'd volunteered to pass on to
pertinent counties new names given under UMP to State by National
each month, and the content and format then were constantly changing.
One of the chores that fell to Kevin Takenaga when he got on the EC
in 2005 was to update (and attempt to make accurate) the CA LP
member database. I believe he accomplished that toward the end of
January this year, though I have no personal experience with it (I
left the LP Santa Clara EC and Party involvement in February.). It
is supposed to be possible for County officers, certainly the County
Chair, to request a list of members by going to an online URL and
giving a password and secret handshake. I am curious to know if it
actually works.
Regards,
Allen
PS Just kidding about the handshake.
A.
--- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, Starchild <s
What Shane says below about monthly data dumps, and state
affiliates
being able to get info from the national database as it comes in
for
over a year now, is news to me. I guess it's news to their
national
development guy too, as he didn't mention it to me when I brought
up
the problem. I wonder whether anyone in the Libertarian Party of
California is on top of this. Someone please correct me if I'm
wrong,
but San Francisco has not been getting any monthly
membership/inquiry
updates from the LPC, have we?
Yours in liberty,
<<< starchild >>>
> From: shane.cory@...
> Date: Sun May 21, 2006 6:32:52 AM US/Pacific
> To: "Starchild" <sfdreamer@...>
> Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] New LP national website coming?
>
> Starchild,
>
> I just quickly read your message and don't have too much time
this
> morning
> to go over everything, however I did want to point this out.
You
> stated:
>
> "especially when we apparently still don't have a
> functioning national database system that gets inquiries and
membership
> updates sent regularly to the appropriate state and local
parties. No
> one in our group has gotten any data of this sort from national
> recently, have they?"
>
> That's a problem on your end not ours. Over a year ago, instant
> functionality was added into the site for state affiliates to get
> inquiries, new members and volunteer requests as they came in.
This
> is in
> addition to monthly data dumps containing the keyed data. This
is not
> an
> issue for my staff as we've already resolved it.
>
> If you're not getting the data from your state then you need to
work
> with
> them to resolve the issue. While we would love to work directly
with
> all
> affiliates, time and cost dictate otherwise. We have to work
through
> our
> state affiliates who, in turn, should work with local parties.
>
> From time to time there is a complaint about the data dumps, and
if
> it's a
> real complaint, Robert works to resolve it. However, much of
the time
> it's a single individual who has some type of issue with either
us or a
> piece of software.
>
> If you would like to discuss this more in depth, give me a call
at your
> convenience.
>
> Best,
>
> Shane
>
>
>> Ron,
>>
>> You make some good points. Not only is the video of
relatively poor
>> quality for something displayed at that level, but as you
suggest,
>> it's
>> in rather questionable taste as well. If something's going to
be in
>> poor taste, can't it at least be funnier, like South Park? It
also
>> seems to suggest that the main problem is politicians goofing
off and
>> not working hard enough, which is hardly the point. And hiding
the
>> Statue of Liberty's face seems like an unintentionally ironic
>> reflection of the desire by some in the party to hide our
libertarian
>> ideology. The white "days until general election" rectangle is
a sore
>> thumb, and the overall new color scheme won't win any prizes
either...
>> I wish I could find something else good to say about it. OK, the
>> American flag's gone, I guess that's good as far as making the
party
>> seem less conservative.
>>
>> Except for the surface look though, the contents of the site
don't
>> appear terribly different. At least one link, the daily poll
(which is
>> on making English the national language, in case anyone wants
to
>> vote),
>> still brings up a page with the old banner. It's pretty hard to
see
>> what the point of this redesign was, and I can only hope that
not much
>> effort went into it -- especially when we apparently still
don't have
>> a
>> functioning national database system that gets inquiries and
>> membership
>> updates sent regularly to the appropriate state and local
parties. No
>> one in our group has gotten any data of this sort from national
>> recently, have they?
>>
>> Seems to me that ought to be one of the most important, if
not *the*
>> most important day-to-day function of the national office. I
mentioned
>> this to their development guy (Marc Scribner? not sure of his
name,
>> since the staff list on the new site does not seem to include
it) a
>> week ago or so, and he agreed it was a very high priority. He
really
>> seemed to be listening to the criticisms I expressed as
reflected in
>> the Grassroots Libertarians Caucus values, too. It would be
nice to
>> see
>> evidence that someone up there is giving the Grassroots
perspective
>> some serious thought.
>>
>> Love & liberty,
>> <<< starchild >>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Dear Everyone;
>>>
>>> Can't say a whole lot either for the face in the shadows
Statue of
>>> Liberty Libertarian Party logo. Why the no face
disguise? What's
>>> wrong
>>> with an an open discernible face on Lady Liberty?
>>>
>>> The flash video remove politicians service will give JibJab no
>>> contest
>>> that's for sure.
>>>
>>> Flash video politician removal service has got to go including
the
>>> cattle prod. Don't those people know anything about
the tortures at
>>> Gitmo and other CIA rendition centers? Or Abu Ghraib? Or worse
the
>>> cattle prods used on Black protestors during the 60's by state
storm
>>> troopers?
>>>
>>> Someone needs to tell them to wake up and pay attention to
what's
>>> going on out there in the world.
>>>
>>> Ron Getty
>>> SF Libertarian
>>>
>>> Starchild <sfdreamer@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ugh. It's supposed to be our national chair, Mike Dixon. I
know, he
>>> looks like one of the politicians he's supposed to be helping
get rid
>>> of. I can't say I'm terribly impressed with the redesign.
Although it
>>> looks like they did at least make the platform a bit more
prominently