Minutes of meeting of LPSF Sept 8, 2007

Dear All:
  Attached and copied below for your reading pleasure are the minutes of the last meeting.
  Please let me have your comments and corrections within the next week.
  Note as usual that copying the minutes does not always reproduce the original spacing.
  Francoise
   
  Minutes of the LPSF meeting of September 8th, 2007
   
  Members Present: Phil Berg (Chair) presiding, Francoise Fielding recording, Bryce Bigwood, Jawj Greenwald, Marcy Berry, Tim Kuklinsky, Michael Edelstein, Mark Joffe, Starchild, Mike Acree, Ron Getty, Steve DeKorte
   
  Guests: Stephanie Burns
   
  Officer Reports
   
  · Treasurer’s report. Justin Sampson was absent. Marc Joffe read his report. Current balance is $2,230.68. Details below.
   
          Date
    Description
    Debit
    Credit
    Balance
     
    beginning balance
     
    3063.22
     
      6/9/2007
    pizza collection net
     
    33
    3096.22
     
      7/14/2007
    reimburse Francoise Fielding for ISIL pamphlets
    86.69
     
    3009.53
     
      7/14/2007
    reimburse Phil Berg for poster project
    800
     
    2209.53
     
      7/14/2007
    check from Michael K Dunn DDS for newsletter ad
     
    25
    2234.53
     
      7/14/2007
    pizza collection
     
    62
    2296.53
     
      7/14/2007
    pizza cost
    49
     
    2247.53
     
      7/22/2007
    Web Hosting Logic Q3'07
    44.85
     
    2202.68
     
      8/11/2007
    pizza collection
     
    78
    2280.68
     
      8/11/2007
    pizza cost
    50
     
    2230.68
     
   Secretary’s report: Francoise Fielding reported on mail received: a booklet from the ACLU on the proliferation of video surveillance systems in California, a fundraising appeal from the National Libertarian Party, and a membership renewal form from Californians for Electoral Reform. Michael Edelstein will check on this group with Richard Winger so that we can decide next month if we want to renew.
   
   Vice-Chair’s report: Starchild reported he has been doing a lot of Ron Paul outreach. He worked the 40th anniversary of the Summer of Love, the farmer’s market at the Ferry Building and the mayoral debate last week where he got a gift certificate which he might use for some kind of libertarian fundraising.
   
   Chair’s report: Phil Berg reported he has been sick as a dog with a blocked bile duct and high fever and has only started feeling well in the last few days.
   
  Committee Reports
   
   Outreach: Starchild. See above (Vice-Chair’s report).
   Newsletter: Once again Starchild reported that he hasn’t gotten the newsletter out. He needs to download the membership form and has not been able to access the LPSF website. Francoise Fielding will send him the form as an email attachment. Rob Power will help with getting the newsletter mailed.
   
  Announcements:
   
   Stephanie Burns announced two Ron Paul fundraisers. Both are on Thursday September 13th. The first is a breakfast meeting in the Presidential Suite at the Palace Hotel from 9 am to 11 am. Axel Merk will talk about the economy and the sub-prime mortgage problem. The second is a lunch at Palio D’Asti (which is owned by a Libertarian). Wild Texas boar will be served. The cost for each of these fundraisers is $500. Cheaper options for supporting Ron Paul are being discussed. There is talk of renting a room for a lower cost event. The cost of the event will still have to cover the expense of the room rental. There is also the possibility that members of the Sacramento meet-up will come to San Francisco early and have a rally outside the Palace. Another possibility mentioned is that Ron Paul will walk from the Palace to Palio d”Asti surrounded by supporters.
              There is a raffle on the CA Ron Paul meet-up site for a ticket to the September 13th lunch. If you donate $20 you have a 1 in 25 chance to win.
              Stephanie also talked about Ron Paul’s performance in the debates. He’s really putting forth our ideas. It’s now or never. He needs our help to get his numbers up for the third quarter. You can sign up or donate by going to the RonPaul2008 website.
   
   Starchild wants people to write letters and send material for next issue of the LPSF newsletter. You can also solicit advertising: it is a good deal. Get the word out.
   
   Bryce responded to complaints that some people are having trouble accessing the LPSF website with both Explorer and Mozilla. He said he thinks it is a problem with the DSN entry.
   
   Marc Joffe on Peace Action. After last Spring’s rallies and marches the largest groups in the peace movement realized the multi-issue approach was not working. The call has gone out for groups to support a single-themed antiwar event. There will be a march on Washington Sept 15th and 10 regional marches on October 27th. Mark suggested that support could take the form of using the San Francisco Libertarian Party’s name on website. Concern was expressed as to whether we could really trust that the LPSF name would only be used in conjunction with anti-war activity. Mark said he manages the October 27th website and it only has an anti-war message. The LPSF voted to endorse the October 27th march.
  There was a discussion about why the members of the LPSF who had signed up with ANSWER to work on the Program Committee had not received notice from ANSWER as promised. Mark said they are very disorganized and said that his experience with the Media Committee had been that he had to be really aggressive and pursue the issue. As to whether we could get Libertarian speakers on the program, Mark answered that that would be unlikely since Libertarians didn’t participate in the first Program Committee meeting and there are no prominent anti-war Libertarian speakers. Mark will send emails about the next Program Committee meetings so that those who want to attend can.
   
  Old Business
   
   Poster distribution
              Starchild reiterated his request to have people go with him to local businesses to put up posters. Michael Edelstein and Phil Berg volunteered.
  Marcy Berry suggested contacting retail members of the Taxpayers Association and poster stores to distribute our posters. Phil Berg suggested it might be a good idea to offer posters to the Ron Paul meet-up group and split the money ($5 each for Ron Paul and the LPSF). The next meetup is Monday Sept 17th at 7 pm at the Naan and Curry on Van Ness. Another idea was to mail posters out to county chairs and have them offer the posters to members for $5. The State Committee meeting next week-end could be a good opportunity.
  Starchild brought up the need to discuss the use of the artwork. We can sell or re-license the poster. The issue is to get the leverage we need to make the art available to pro-liberty groups either for free or for a fee. We need a system where if they send us a fee, we could arrange a deal with our printer and have him ship the posters to the person paying the fee. Phil Berg said we need to advertise that on our website.
  We could sell also sell the poster concept to LPstuff.com or ThinkLibertarian.com and they could put it in their inventory. They could make the money or we could split it. Starchild will contact the two stores and find out more about the possibilities.
              A motion was made and carried to offload the distribution of the posters to a committee consisting of Phil Berg and Starchild. They can come back to the LPSF if they need money for expenditures.
   
   Poster Storage:
  Rob Power is moving and can no longer take care of storing the posters. Bryce Bigwood can do long-term storage. Phil Berg can take care of short term storage. Starchild said he could also store some posters. Rob Power will contact Bryce Bigwood. Phil Berg will contact Jeremy Linden who had said at the last meeting that he was moving and might be able to take over the storage function.
   
   Webhosting:
              Bryce will increase website accessibility to everyone: Steve DeKorte will change the DNS.
   
   Restarting social meetings.
              This is Jeremy Linden’s project. Since he was absent, the issue was tabled to the next meeting.
   
   Ballot Issues:
      A motion was made and carried to vote on the whole slate as recommended at the last meeting with the exception of Propositions B and F.
      Proposition B: Limiting Hold-Over Service on Boards and Commissions

                     This proposition allows appointed commission members to stay over for up to an additional 60 days from time of expiration of their service unless re-appointed to another term. It was placed on the ballot due to the fact in some cases appointees had stayed on a commission or board up to a couple years after their appointment expired. The charter amendment is for the purposes of setting procedures to have appointed people either replaced or have their appointment renewed.
                          A “Yes” vote was recommended.
  3. Proposition F: Retirement Benefits for Police Department Employees Who Were Airport Police Officers.
                          This proposition concerns 62 SF Airport police officers asking to be included in the SF pay/benefits/ retirement program to have parity with City employees. The $670,000 to transfer to the City plan is to be paid by the SF Airport from previously allocated and budgeted funds from the SF Airport for the 62 police officers’ pay and benefits. Any additional funds required to match pay and benefits and retirement is mandated to come from the officers themselves. There are to be no funds provided by the SF City General Fund.
                          Vote of “No Recommendation”
  4. A vote was taken to reconsider the Wi-Fi Proposition (Proposition J).
        A “No” vote was recommended (even though the issue is now moot since Earthlink has pulled out from participation) so that the Supervisors do not come in and suggest city-wide Wi-Fi again.
  5. Michael Edelstein will call Chris Maden re re-recording the LPSF phone message so that it specifies that we are meeting at Milano’s and not Cybelle’s.
  6. Surveillance flyer: It will carry Starchild’s byline. Starchild will add the point that the ACLU recommends cessation of video surveillance. A vote was taken to allocate $25 to print as many black-on-colored-paper flyers as possible.
   
Francoise Fielding
820 Stanyan Street,#5
San Francisco, CA 94117
415-386-8643

Minutes of LPSF Meeting of Sept 8, 2007.doc (71.5 KB)

Dear Francoise,

Excellent minutes, as always. This is so minor I hesitated to bring
it up, but it was Starchild (LPSF liaison with the Taxpayers Union)
who suggested presenting the poster to retail members of the Union. I
just suggested poster stores.

Regards,

Marcy

--- In lpsf-activists@yahoogroups.com, Francoise Fielding
<mdm2548@...> wrote:

Dear All:
  Attached and copied below for your reading pleasure are the

minutes of the last meeting.

  Please let me have your comments and corrections within the next week.
  Note as usual that copying the minutes does not always reproduce

the original spacing.

  Francoise
   
  Minutes of the LPSF meeting of September 8th, 2007
   
  Members Present: Phil Berg (Chair) presiding, Francoise Fielding

recording, Bryce Bigwood, Jawj Greenwald, Marcy Berry, Tim Kuklinsky,
Michael Edelstein, Mark Joffe, Starchild, Mike Acree, Ron Getty,
Steve DeKorte

   
  Guests: Stephanie Burns
   
  Officer Reports
   
  · Treasurer's report. Justin Sampson was absent. Marc Joffe read

his report. Current balance is $2,230.68. Details below.

   
          Date
    Description
    Debit
    Credit
    Balance
     
    beginning balance
     
    3063.22
     
      6/9/2007
    pizza collection net
     
    33
    3096.22
     
      7/14/2007
    reimburse Francoise Fielding for ISIL pamphlets
    86.69
     
    3009.53
     
      7/14/2007
    reimburse Phil Berg for poster project
    800
     
    2209.53
     
      7/14/2007
    check from Michael K Dunn DDS for newsletter ad
     
    25
    2234.53
     
      7/14/2007
    pizza collection
     
    62
    2296.53
     
      7/14/2007
    pizza cost
    49
     
    2247.53
     
      7/22/2007
    Web Hosting Logic Q3'07
    44.85
     
    2202.68
     
      8/11/2007
    pizza collection
     
    78
    2280.68
     
      8/11/2007
    pizza cost
    50
     
    2230.68
     
   Secretary's report: Francoise Fielding reported on mail received:

a booklet from the ACLU on the proliferation of video surveillance
systems in California, a fundraising appeal from the National
Libertarian Party, and a membership renewal form from Californians for
Electoral Reform. Michael Edelstein will check on this group with
Richard Winger so that we can decide next month if we want to renew.

   
   Vice-Chair's report: Starchild reported he has been doing a lot

of Ron Paul outreach. He worked the 40th anniversary of the Summer of
Love, the farmer's market at the Ferry Building and the mayoral debate
last week where he got a gift certificate which he might use for some
kind of libertarian fundraising.

   
   Chair's report: Phil Berg reported he has been sick as a dog

with a blocked bile duct and high fever and has only started feeling
well in the last few days.

   
  Committee Reports
   
   Outreach: Starchild. See above (Vice-Chair's report).
   Newsletter: Once again Starchild reported that he hasn't gotten

the newsletter out. He needs to download the membership form and has
not been able to access the LPSF website. Francoise Fielding will send
him the form as an email attachment. Rob Power will help with getting
the newsletter mailed.

   
  Announcements:
   
   Stephanie Burns announced two Ron Paul fundraisers. Both are on

Thursday September 13th. The first is a breakfast meeting in the
Presidential Suite at the Palace Hotel from 9 am to 11 am. Axel Merk
will talk about the economy and the sub-prime mortgage problem. The
second is a lunch at Palio D'Asti (which is owned by a Libertarian).
Wild Texas boar will be served. The cost for each of these fundraisers
is $500.
                    Cheaper options for supporting Ron Paul are being
discussed. There is talk of renting a room for a lower cost event. The
cost of the event will still have to cover the expense of the room
rental. There is also the possibility that members of the Sacramento
meet-up will come to San Francisco early and have a rally outside the
Palace. Another possibility mentioned is that Ron Paul will walk from
the Palace to Palio d"Asti surrounded by supporters.

              There is a raffle on the CA Ron Paul meet-up site for

a ticket to the September 13th lunch. If you donate $20 you have a 1
in 25 chance to win.

              Stephanie also talked about Ron Paul's performance in

the debates. He's really putting forth our ideas. It's now
or never. He needs our help to get his numbers up for the third
quarter. You can sign up or donate by going to the RonPaul2008 website.

   
   Starchild wants people to write letters and send material for

next issue of the LPSF newsletter. You can also solicit advertising:
it is a good deal. Get the word out.

   
   Bryce responded to complaints that some people are having trouble

accessing the LPSF website with both Explorer and Mozilla. He said he
thinks it is a problem with the DSN entry.

   
   Marc Joffe on Peace Action. After last Spring's rallies and

marches the largest groups in the peace movement realized the
multi-issue approach was not working. The call has gone out for groups
to support a single-themed antiwar event. There will be a march on
Washington Sept 15th and 10 regional marches on October 27th. Mark
suggested that support could take the form of using the San Francisco
Libertarian Party's name on website. Concern was expressed as to
whether we could really trust that the LPSF name would only be used in
conjunction with anti-war activity. Mark said he manages the October
27th website and it only has an anti-war message. The LPSF voted to
endorse the October 27th march.

  There was a discussion about why the members of the LPSF who had

signed up with ANSWER to work on the Program Committee had not
received notice from ANSWER as promised. Mark said they are very
disorganized and said that his experience with the Media Committee had
been that he had to be really aggressive and pursue the issue. As to
whether we could get Libertarian speakers on the program, Mark
answered that that would be unlikely since Libertarians didn't
participate in the first Program Committee meeting and there are no
prominent anti-war Libertarian speakers. Mark will send emails about
the next Program Committee meetings so that those who want to attend can.

   
  Old Business
   
   Poster distribution
              Starchild reiterated his request to have people go

with him to local businesses to put up posters. Michael
Edelstein and Phil Berg volunteered.

  Marcy Berry suggested contacting retail members of the Taxpayers

Association and poster stores to distribute our posters. Phil Berg
suggested it might be a good idea to offer posters to the Ron Paul
meet-up group and split the money ($5 each for Ron Paul and the LPSF).
The next meetup is Monday Sept 17th at 7 pm at the Naan and
Curry on Van Ness. Another idea was to mail posters out to county
chairs and have them offer the posters to members for $5. The State
Committee meeting next week-end could be a good opportunity.

  Starchild brought up the need to discuss the use of the artwork.

We can sell or re-license the poster. The issue is to get the leverage
we need to make the art available to pro-liberty groups either for
free or for a fee. We need a system where if they send us a fee, we
could arrange a deal with our printer and have him ship the posters to
the person paying the fee. Phil Berg said we need to advertise that on
our website.

  We could sell also sell the poster concept to LPstuff.com or

ThinkLibertarian.com and they could put it in their inventory. They
could make the money or we could split it. Starchild will contact the
two stores and find out more about the possibilities.

              A motion was made and carried to offload the

distribution of the posters to a committee consisting of Phil Berg
and Starchild. They can come back to the LPSF if they need
money for expenditures.

   
   Poster Storage:
  Rob Power is moving and can no longer take care of storing the

posters. Bryce Bigwood can do long-term storage. Phil Berg can take
care of short term storage. Starchild said he could also store some
posters. Rob Power will contact Bryce Bigwood. Phil Berg will contact
Jeremy Linden who had said at the last meeting that he was moving and
might be able to take over the storage function.

   
   Webhosting:
              Bryce will increase website accessibility to everyone:

Steve DeKorte will change the DNS.

   
   Restarting social meetings.
              This is Jeremy Linden's project. Since he was absent,

the issue was tabled to the next meeting.

   
   Ballot Issues:
      A motion was made and carried to vote on the whole slate as

recommended at the last meeting with the exception of Propositions B
and F.

      Proposition B: Limiting Hold-Over Service on Boards and

Commissions

                     This proposition allows appointed commission

members to stay over for up to an
additional 60 days from time of expiration of their service
                                    unless re-appointed to another
term. It was placed on the
             ballot due to the fact in some cases appointees had
stayed on a commission or
board up to a couple years after their appointment
                          expired. The charter amendment is for the
purposes of setting procedures to
have appointed people either replaced or have their appointment
                                        renewed.

                          A "Yes" vote was recommended.
  3. Proposition F: Retirement Benefits for Police Department

Employees Who Were Airport Police Officers.

                          This proposition concerns 62 SF Airport

police officers asking to be included in
the SF pay/benefits/ retirement program to have parity with
                    City employees. The $670,000 to transfer to the
City plan is to be paid by the SF
Airport from previously allocated and budgeted funds from the
                  SF Airport for the 62 police officers' pay and
benefits. Any additional funds required to
match pay and benefits and retirement is mandated to
          come from the officers themselves. There are to be no funds
provided by the SF City General Fund.

                          Vote of "No Recommendation"
  4. A vote was taken to reconsider the Wi-Fi Proposition

(Proposition J).

        A "No" vote was recommended (even though the issue is now

moot since Earthlink has pulled out from participation) so
that the Supervisors do not come in and suggest city-wide
Wi-Fi again.

  5. Michael Edelstein will call Chris Maden re re-recording the

LPSF phone message so that it specifies that we are meeting
at Milano's and not Cybelle's.

  6. Surveillance flyer: It will carry Starchild's byline.

Starchild will add the point that the ACLU recommends cessation of
video surveillance. A vote was taken to allocate $25 to print
as many black-on-colored-paper flyers as possible.

   
Francoise Fielding
820 Stanyan Street,#5
San Francisco, CA 94117
415-386-8643
       
---------------------------------
Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who

knows.

Dear Marcy:
  Thanks. Will make the change.
  Francoise

          Dear Francoise,

Excellent minutes, as always. This is so minor I hesitated to bring
it up, but it was Starchild (LPSF liaison with the Taxpayers Union)
who suggested presenting the poster to retail members of the Union. I
just suggested poster stores.

Regards,

Marcy

--- In lpsf-activists@yahoogroups.com, Francoise Fielding
<mdm2548@...> wrote:

Dear All:
Attached and copied below for your reading pleasure are the

minutes of the last meeting.

Please let me have your comments and corrections within the next week.
Note as usual that copying the minutes does not always reproduce

the original spacing.

Francoise

Minutes of the LPSF meeting of September 8th, 2007

Members Present: Phil Berg (Chair) presiding, Francoise Fielding

recording, Bryce Bigwood, Jawj Greenwald, Marcy Berry, Tim Kuklinsky,
Michael Edelstein, Mark Joffe, Starchild, Mike Acree, Ron Getty,
Steve DeKorte

Guests: Stephanie Burns

Officer Reports

· Treasurer's report. Justin Sampson was absent. Marc Joffe read

his report. Current balance is $2,230.68. Details below.

Date
Description
Debit
Credit
Balance

beginning balance

3063.22

6/9/2007
pizza collection net

33
3096.22

7/14/2007
reimburse Francoise Fielding for ISIL pamphlets
86.69

3009.53

7/14/2007
reimburse Phil Berg for poster project
800

2209.53

7/14/2007
check from Michael K Dunn DDS for newsletter ad

25
2234.53

7/14/2007
pizza collection

62
2296.53

7/14/2007
pizza cost
49

2247.53

7/22/2007
Web Hosting Logic Q3'07
44.85

2202.68

8/11/2007
pizza collection

78
2280.68

8/11/2007
pizza cost
50

2230.68

Secretary's report: Francoise Fielding reported on mail received:

a booklet from the ACLU on the proliferation of video surveillance
systems in California, a fundraising appeal from the National
Libertarian Party, and a membership renewal form from Californians for
Electoral Reform. Michael Edelstein will check on this group with
Richard Winger so that we can decide next month if we want to renew.

Vice-Chair's report: Starchild reported he has been doing a lot

of Ron Paul outreach. He worked the 40th anniversary of the Summer of
Love, the farmer's market at the Ferry Building and the mayoral debate
last week where he got a gift certificate which he might use for some
kind of libertarian fundraising.

Chair's report: Phil Berg reported he has been sick as a dog

with a blocked bile duct and high fever and has only started feeling
well in the last few days.

Committee Reports

Outreach: Starchild. See above (Vice-Chair's report).
Newsletter: Once again Starchild reported that he hasn't gotten

the newsletter out. He needs to download the membership form and has
not been able to access the LPSF website. Francoise Fielding will send
him the form as an email attachment. Rob Power will help with getting
the newsletter mailed.

Announcements:

Stephanie Burns announced two Ron Paul fundraisers. Both are on

Thursday September 13th. The first is a breakfast meeting in the
Presidential Suite at the Palace Hotel from 9 am to 11 am. Axel Merk
will talk about the economy and the sub-prime mortgage problem. The
second is a lunch at Palio D'Asti (which is owned by a Libertarian).
Wild Texas boar will be served. The cost for each of these fundraisers
is $500.
Cheaper options for supporting Ron Paul are being
discussed. There is talk of renting a room for a lower cost event. The
cost of the event will still have to cover the expense of the room
rental. There is also the possibility that members of the Sacramento
meet-up will come to San Francisco early and have a rally outside the
Palace. Another possibility mentioned is that Ron Paul will walk from
the Palace to Palio d"Asti surrounded by supporters.

There is a raffle on the CA Ron Paul meet-up site for

a ticket to the September 13th lunch. If you donate $20 you have a 1
in 25 chance to win.

Stephanie also talked about Ron Paul's performance in

the debates. He's really putting forth our ideas. It's now
or never. He needs our help to get his numbers up for the third
quarter. You can sign up or donate by going to the RonPaul2008 website.

Starchild wants people to write letters and send material for

next issue of the LPSF newsletter. You can also solicit advertising:
it is a good deal. Get the word out.

Bryce responded to complaints that some people are having trouble

accessing the LPSF website with both Explorer and Mozilla. He said he
thinks it is a problem with the DSN entry.

Marc Joffe on Peace Action. After last Spring's rallies and

marches the largest groups in the peace movement realized the
multi-issue approach was not working. The call has gone out for groups
to support a single-themed antiwar event. There will be a march on
Washington Sept 15th and 10 regional marches on October 27th. Mark
suggested that support could take the form of using the San Francisco
Libertarian Party's name on website. Concern was expressed as to
whether we could really trust that the LPSF name would only be used in
conjunction with anti-war activity. Mark said he manages the October
27th website and it only has an anti-war message. The LPSF voted to
endorse the October 27th march.

There was a discussion about why the members of the LPSF who had

signed up with ANSWER to work on the Program Committee had not
received notice from ANSWER as promised. Mark said they are very
disorganized and said that his experience with the Media Committee had
been that he had to be really aggressive and pursue the issue. As to
whether we could get Libertarian speakers on the program, Mark
answered that that would be unlikely since Libertarians didn't
participate in the first Program Committee meeting and there are no
prominent anti-war Libertarian speakers. Mark will send emails about
the next Program Committee meetings so that those who want to attend can.

Old Business

Poster distribution
Starchild reiterated his request to have people go

with him to local businesses to put up posters. Michael
Edelstein and Phil Berg volunteered.

Marcy Berry suggested contacting retail members of the Taxpayers

Association and poster stores to distribute our posters. Phil Berg
suggested it might be a good idea to offer posters to the Ron Paul
meet-up group and split the money ($5 each for Ron Paul and the LPSF).
The next meetup is Monday Sept 17th at 7 pm at the Naan and
Curry on Van Ness. Another idea was to mail posters out to county
chairs and have them offer the posters to members for $5. The State
Committee meeting next week-end could be a good opportunity.

Starchild brought up the need to discuss the use of the artwork.

We can sell or re-license the poster. The issue is to get the leverage
we need to make the art available to pro-liberty groups either for
free or for a fee. We need a system where if they send us a fee, we
could arrange a deal with our printer and have him ship the posters to
the person paying the fee. Phil Berg said we need to advertise that on
our website.

We could sell also sell the poster concept to LPstuff.com or

ThinkLibertarian.com and they could put it in their inventory. They
could make the money or we could split it. Starchild will contact the
two stores and find out more about the possibilities.

A motion was made and carried to offload the

distribution of the posters to a committee consisting of Phil Berg
and Starchild. They can come back to the LPSF if they need
money for expenditures.

Poster Storage:
Rob Power is moving and can no longer take care of storing the

posters. Bryce Bigwood can do long-term storage. Phil Berg can take
care of short term storage. Starchild said he could also store some
posters. Rob Power will contact Bryce Bigwood. Phil Berg will contact
Jeremy Linden who had said at the last meeting that he was moving and
might be able to take over the storage function.

Webhosting:
Bryce will increase website accessibility to everyone:

Steve DeKorte will change the DNS.

Restarting social meetings.
This is Jeremy Linden's project. Since he was absent,

the issue was tabled to the next meeting.

Ballot Issues:
A motion was made and carried to vote on the whole slate as

recommended at the last meeting with the exception of Propositions B
and F.

Proposition B: Limiting Hold-Over Service on Boards and

Commissions

This proposition allows appointed commission

members to stay over for up to an
additional 60 days from time of expiration of their service
unless re-appointed to another
term. It was placed on the
ballot due to the fact in some cases appointees had
stayed on a commission or
board up to a couple years after their appointment
expired. The charter amendment is for the
purposes of setting procedures to
have appointed people either replaced or have their appointment
renewed.

A "Yes" vote was recommended.
3. Proposition F: Retirement Benefits for Police Department

Employees Who Were Airport Police Officers.

This proposition concerns 62 SF Airport

police officers asking to be included in
the SF pay/benefits/ retirement program to have parity with
City employees. The $670,000 to transfer to the
City plan is to be paid by the SF
Airport from previously allocated and budgeted funds from the
SF Airport for the 62 police officers' pay and
benefits. Any additional funds required to
match pay and benefits and retirement is mandated to
come from the officers themselves. There are to be no funds
provided by the SF City General Fund.

Vote of "No Recommendation"
4. A vote was taken to reconsider the Wi-Fi Proposition

(Proposition J).

A "No" vote was recommended (even though the issue is now

moot since Earthlink has pulled out from participation) so
that the Supervisors do not come in and suggest city-wide
Wi-Fi again.

5. Michael Edelstein will call Chris Maden re re-recording the

LPSF phone message so that it specifies that we are meeting
at Milano's and not Cybelle's.

6. Surveillance flyer: It will carry Starchild's byline.

Starchild will add the point that the ACLU recommends cessation of
video surveillance. A vote was taken to allocate $25 to print
as many black-on-colored-paper flyers as possible.

Francoise Fielding
820 Stanyan Street,#5
San Francisco, CA 94117
415-386-8643

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Francoise Fielding
820 Stanyan Street,#5
San Francisco, CA 94117
415-386-8643

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help is needed.

Jeremy