I wanna rouse some rabble! - STOP THE WAR RALLY

Yeah and the house flags should go up in flames also! And the Cali flag and all the state flag the voted in the prez.
We are more than just a presidential country...Bush did not get us into this war. We the people did and now are shucking the blame?

Thank you, Eric. For years now, I have been a lonely voice on this
List communicating to my fellow Libertarians my belief that 1) "We
the People" put the scums in office that cause so much chagrin; and
2) As Eric stated so well: better to have public support than mere
attention.

Thus, SFTW Coalition hopes to add its voice to the other numerous
rally's that are taking place throughout the country, and state
simply and peacefully that we are encouraging our elected
representatives to stop the war by stopping its funding.

Regards,

Marcy

--- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "eric dupree"
<dupreeconsults@...> wrote:

Yeah and the house flags should go up in flames also! And the Cali

flag and all the state flag the voted in the prez.

We are more than just a presidential country...Bush did not get us

into this war. We the people did and now are shucking the blame?

> From: Starchild <sfdreamer@...>
> To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] Re: I wanna rouse some rabble! - STOP

THE WAR RALLY

> Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:53:52 -0800
>
>
> How about burning a big flag -- not the American flag, but a

flag

> bearing the presidential seal? I think that would send an
> appropriate message, and get some media attention, without the
> misguided backlash from some quarters that might greet the

burning

> of "Old Glory," or the implicit message of violence of burning

the

> would-be king in effigy.
>
> By the way, I also previously raised the idea of having a
> Libertarian MC (Marc Joffe?) for the event to guarantee the LP

some

> visibility there, but don't recall seeing any responses to this
> suggestion. What do those involved in planning the rally think
> about these ideas?
>
> Love & liberty,
> <<< starchild >>>
>
>
>
> > Ooops my first message got botched up; so here goes again.
> >
> > Dear Ron,
> >
> > Thank you for the suggestion of slash and burn! However, I

think the

> > Stop Funding the War Coalition voted from the start to have a
> > peaceful rally, such as "the people peaceably to assemble, and

to

> > petition the government for a redress of grievances." I

supposed the

> > idea is to walk the walk; if you call for peace, it would seem

to me

> > strange to do it through any kind of violence. But, that's just

my

> > opinion.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Marcy
> >
> > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Amarcy D. Berry"

<amarcyb@>

> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, Ron Getty <tradergroupe@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Everyone;
> > > >
> > > > For those of you involved in the Stop The War Rally -

here's a

> > > forwarded message from Aster Francesca with a thought for
> > > consideration as the capper for the Stop The War Rally event -
> > > >
> > > > Burn his royal highness King George the II in effigy!!!
> > > >
> > > > That'll certainly get the attention of the FBI and Homeland
> > > Security and Secret Service Presidential Protection Detail and
> > > Government Office Building Polizei - let the news media know

in

> > > advance what you are planning on doing - as this is the type

of eye

> > > candy they just love for the in-depth 10 second news bites

for 5-6-

> > 7-
> > > 9-10-11.
> > > >
> > > > BTW: Going to have a band there playing a dirge or at least

a

> > > trumpeter playing Taps for all the fallen dead both military

and

> > > civilian? How about a dragon dance to scare away the evils of

war

> > > followed by the traditional firecracker ball to really blast

away

> > the
> > > demons of war?
> > > >
> > > > BTW: Will there be lots of colorful banners?
> > > >
> > > > Ron Getty
> > > > SF Libertarian
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Aster Francesca <ms_shiris@>
> > > > To: Salon_Liberty@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 7:27:58 PM
> > > > Subject: {Salon Liberty} I wanna rouse some rabble!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A very interesting peice from Charles Johnson's site on the
> > > American Revolution:
> > > > http://radgeek.com/gt/2007/02/24/over_my
> > > > Hey, why doesn't someone (say, the anti-war movement) get
> > together
> > > and very publically hang George II* in effigy- perhaps in a
> > > deliberately Colonial style?
> > > > If your not-quite-voiced answer is: "I'm afraid what would

happen

> > > to me if I did so", then you have discovered the reason

someone

> > needs
> > > to do it, before your worried fear is certain fact.
> > > > Many, many people I know from friends to colleagues to

clients to

> > > random people I meet in the supermarket are beginning to

conclude

> > > they truly do need to worry. All of these people would

understand

> > > the meaning of a public burning instantly and would all come

away

> > > from hearing of one that much more consciously radical.
> > > > I know some of you are involved in the anti-war movement.

Has

> > > anyone thought of this?
> > > > love and strife,
> > > > Aster Francesca {)(*)(}
> > > > * Or why don'twe getinthe habit of protesting I wannother
> > officials
> > > by beheading them? DEA and Homeland Security officials come to
> > > mind. Or local police commisioners.
> > > > Why don't sex workers publically get together and declare

the

> > cops
> > > and the feds the occupying army there are? Jailed prostitutes

are

> > > patriarchy's political prisoners. They're arresting us and

killing

> > > us, and we protest by running ballot initiatives, throwing

parties,

> > > and having tea with politicians. What gives with that? We

should

> > be
> > > declaring people who would ruin lives for practicing their

living

> > > steppe raiders and tyrants beyond the boundaries of

civilisation.

> > > > Freude, schöner Götterfunken
> > > > Tochter aus Elysium,
> > > > Wir betreten feuertrunken,
> > > > Himmlische, dein Heiligtum!
> > > > Deine Zauber binden wieder
> > > > Was die Mode streng geteilt.
> > > > Alle Menschen werden Brüder
> > > > Wo dein sanfter Flügel weilt.
> > > > email ms_shiris@
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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and

> > save
> > > at MSN® Shopping.
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Dear Marcy;

In a post a couple months back I said we were the guilty ones for
letting the Powers That Be do what they did - so we are the
responsible ones - you aren't the only voice crying out in the
wilderness about who the guilty parties really are - if only they
would accept their responsibilities for being guilty!!!

And Starchild - my responses to your responses to my earlier
statements that we are the guilty ones still stands - We the People
are the guilty parties for not protesting - even violently - if
needed - against the power mongerering mongrels in Washington.

Ron Getty
SF Libertarian

--- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Amarcy D. Berry" <amarcyb@...>
wrote:

Thank you, Eric. For years now, I have been a lonely voice on this
List communicating to my fellow Libertarians my belief that 1) "We
the People" put the scums in office that cause so much chagrin; and
2) As Eric stated so well: better to have public support than mere
attention.

Thus, SFTW Coalition hopes to add its voice to the other numerous
rally's that are taking place throughout the country, and state
simply and peacefully that we are encouraging our elected
representatives to stop the war by stopping its funding.

Regards,

Marcy

--- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "eric dupree"
<dupreeconsults@> wrote:
>
> Yeah and the house flags should go up in flames also! And the

Cali

flag and all the state flag the voted in the prez.
> We are more than just a presidential country...Bush did not get

us

into this war. We the people did and now are shucking the blame?
> > From: Starchild <sfdreamer@>
> > To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] Re: I wanna rouse some rabble! -

STOP

THE WAR RALLY
> > Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:53:52 -0800
> >
> >
> > How about burning a big flag -- not the American flag, but a
flag
> > bearing the presidential seal? I think that would send an
> > appropriate message, and get some media attention, without the
> > misguided backlash from some quarters that might greet the
burning
> > of "Old Glory," or the implicit message of violence of burning
the
> > would-be king in effigy.
> >
> > By the way, I also previously raised the idea of having a
> > Libertarian MC (Marc Joffe?) for the event to guarantee the LP
some
> > visibility there, but don't recall seeing any responses to this
> > suggestion. What do those involved in planning the rally think
> > about these ideas?
> >
> > Love & liberty,
> > <<< starchild >>>
> >
> >
> >
> > > Ooops my first message got botched up; so here goes again.
> > >
> > > Dear Ron,
> > >
> > > Thank you for the suggestion of slash and burn! However, I
think the
> > > Stop Funding the War Coalition voted from the start to have a
> > > peaceful rally, such as "the people peaceably to assemble,

and

to
> > > petition the government for a redress of grievances." I
supposed the
> > > idea is to walk the walk; if you call for peace, it would

seem

to me
> > > strange to do it through any kind of violence. But, that's

just

my
> > > opinion.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Marcy
> > >
> > > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Amarcy D. Berry"
<amarcyb@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, Ron Getty

<tradergroupe@>

> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Everyone;
> > > > >
> > > > > For those of you involved in the Stop The War Rally -
here's a
> > > > forwarded message from Aster Francesca with a thought for
> > > > consideration as the capper for the Stop The War Rally

event -

> > > > >
> > > > > Burn his royal highness King George the II in effigy!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > That'll certainly get the attention of the FBI and

Homeland

> > > > Security and Secret Service Presidential Protection Detail

and

> > > > Government Office Building Polizei - let the news media

know

in
> > > > advance what you are planning on doing - as this is the

type

of eye
> > > > candy they just love for the in-depth 10 second news bites
for 5-6-
> > > 7-
> > > > 9-10-11.
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW: Going to have a band there playing a dirge or at

least

a
> > > > trumpeter playing Taps for all the fallen dead both

military

and
> > > > civilian? How about a dragon dance to scare away the evils

of

war
> > > > followed by the traditional firecracker ball to really

blast

away
> > > the
> > > > demons of war?
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW: Will there be lots of colorful banners?
> > > > >
> > > > > Ron Getty
> > > > > SF Libertarian
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Aster Francesca <ms_shiris@>
> > > > > To: Salon_Liberty@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 7:27:58 PM
> > > > > Subject: {Salon Liberty} I wanna rouse some rabble!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > A very interesting peice from Charles Johnson's site on

the

> > > > American Revolution:
> > > > > http://radgeek.com/gt/2007/02/24/over_my
> > > > > Hey, why doesn't someone (say, the anti-war movement) get
> > > together
> > > > and very publically hang George II* in effigy- perhaps in a
> > > > deliberately Colonial style?
> > > > > If your not-quite-voiced answer is: "I'm afraid what

would

happen
> > > > to me if I did so", then you have discovered the reason
someone
> > > needs
> > > > to do it, before your worried fear is certain fact.
> > > > > Many, many people I know from friends to colleagues to
clients to
> > > > random people I meet in the supermarket are beginning to
conclude
> > > > they truly do need to worry. All of these people would
understand
> > > > the meaning of a public burning instantly and would all

come

away
> > > > from hearing of one that much more consciously radical.
> > > > > I know some of you are involved in the anti-war movement.
Has
> > > > anyone thought of this?
> > > > > love and strife,
> > > > > Aster Francesca {)(*)(}
> > > > > * Or why don'twe getinthe habit of protesting I wannother
> > > officials
> > > > by beheading them? DEA and Homeland Security officials come

to

> > > > mind. Or local police commisioners.
> > > > > Why don't sex workers publically get together and declare
the
> > > cops
> > > > and the feds the occupying army there are? Jailed

prostitutes

are
> > > > patriarchy's political prisoners. They're arresting us and
killing
> > > > us, and we protest by running ballot initiatives, throwing
parties,
> > > > and having tea with politicians. What gives with that? We
should
> > > be
> > > > declaring people who would ruin lives for practicing their
living
> > > > steppe raiders and tyrants beyond the boundaries of
civilisation.
> > > > > Freude, schöner Götterfunken
> > > > > Tochter aus Elysium,
> > > > > Wir betreten feuertrunken,
> > > > > Himmlische, dein Heiligtum!
> > > > > Deine Zauber binden wieder
> > > > > Was die Mode streng geteilt.
> > > > > Alle Menschen werden Brüder
> > > > > Wo dein sanfter Flügel weilt.
> > > > > email ms_shiris@
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Find what you need at prices you'll love. Compare

products

and
> > > save
> > > > at MSN® Shopping.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
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Dear Ron,

I stand corrected! So we were TWO voices crying in the
wilderness...now with Eric three.

Marcy

--- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "tradergroupe"
<tradergroupe@...> wrote:

Dear Marcy;

In a post a couple months back I said we were the guilty ones for
letting the Powers That Be do what they did - so we are the
responsible ones - you aren't the only voice crying out in the
wilderness about who the guilty parties really are - if only they
would accept their responsibilities for being guilty!!!

And Starchild - my responses to your responses to my earlier
statements that we are the guilty ones still stands - We the People
are the guilty parties for not protesting - even violently - if
needed - against the power mongerering mongrels in Washington.

Ron Getty
SF Libertarian

--- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Amarcy D. Berry" <amarcyb@>
wrote:
>
> Thank you, Eric. For years now, I have been a lonely voice on

this

> List communicating to my fellow Libertarians my belief that

1) "We

> the People" put the scums in office that cause so much chagrin;

and

> 2) As Eric stated so well: better to have public support than

mere

> attention.
>
> Thus, SFTW Coalition hopes to add its voice to the other numerous
> rally's that are taking place throughout the country, and state
> simply and peacefully that we are encouraging our elected
> representatives to stop the war by stopping its funding.
>
> Regards,
>
> Marcy
>
>
> --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "eric dupree"
> <dupreeconsults@> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah and the house flags should go up in flames also! And the
Cali
> flag and all the state flag the voted in the prez.
> > We are more than just a presidential country...Bush did not get
us
> into this war. We the people did and now are shucking the blame?
> > > From: Starchild <sfdreamer@>
> > > To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] Re: I wanna rouse some rabble! -
STOP
> THE WAR RALLY
> > > Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 00:53:52 -0800
> > >
> > >
> > > How about burning a big flag -- not the American

flag, but a

> flag
> > > bearing the presidential seal? I think that would send an
> > > appropriate message, and get some media attention, without

the

> > > misguided backlash from some quarters that might greet the
> burning
> > > of "Old Glory," or the implicit message of violence of

burning

> the
> > > would-be king in effigy.
> > >
> > > By the way, I also previously raised the idea of

having a

> > > Libertarian MC (Marc Joffe?) for the event to guarantee the

LP

> some
> > > visibility there, but don't recall seeing any responses to

this

> > > suggestion. What do those involved in planning the rally

think

> > > about these ideas?
> > >
> > > Love & liberty,
> > > <<< starchild >>>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ooops my first message got botched up; so here goes again.
> > > >
> > > > Dear Ron,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for the suggestion of slash and burn! However, I
> think the
> > > > Stop Funding the War Coalition voted from the start to have

a

> > > > peaceful rally, such as "the people peaceably to assemble,
and
> to
> > > > petition the government for a redress of grievances." I
> supposed the
> > > > idea is to walk the walk; if you call for peace, it would
seem
> to me
> > > > strange to do it through any kind of violence. But, that's
just
> my
> > > > opinion.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Marcy
> > > >
> > > > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Amarcy D. Berry"
> <amarcyb@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, Ron Getty
<tradergroupe@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Everyone;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For those of you involved in the Stop The War Rally -
> here's a
> > > > > forwarded message from Aster Francesca with a thought for
> > > > > consideration as the capper for the Stop The War Rally
event -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Burn his royal highness King George the II in effigy!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That'll certainly get the attention of the FBI and
Homeland
> > > > > Security and Secret Service Presidential Protection

Detail

and
> > > > > Government Office Building Polizei - let the news media
know
> in
> > > > > advance what you are planning on doing - as this is the
type
> of eye
> > > > > candy they just love for the in-depth 10 second news

bites

> for 5-6-
> > > > 7-
> > > > > 9-10-11.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BTW: Going to have a band there playing a dirge or at
least
> a
> > > > > trumpeter playing Taps for all the fallen dead both
military
> and
> > > > > civilian? How about a dragon dance to scare away the

evils

of
> war
> > > > > followed by the traditional firecracker ball to really
blast
> away
> > > > the
> > > > > demons of war?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BTW: Will there be lots of colorful banners?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ron Getty
> > > > > > SF Libertarian
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Aster Francesca <ms_shiris@>
> > > > > > To: Salon_Liberty@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 7:27:58 PM
> > > > > > Subject: {Salon Liberty} I wanna rouse some rabble!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A very interesting peice from Charles Johnson's site on
the
> > > > > American Revolution:
> > > > > > http://radgeek.com/gt/2007/02/24/over_my
> > > > > > Hey, why doesn't someone (say, the anti-war movement)

get

> > > > together
> > > > > and very publically hang George II* in effigy- perhaps in

a

> > > > > deliberately Colonial style?
> > > > > > If your not-quite-voiced answer is: "I'm afraid what
would
> happen
> > > > > to me if I did so", then you have discovered the reason
> someone
> > > > needs
> > > > > to do it, before your worried fear is certain fact.
> > > > > > Many, many people I know from friends to colleagues to
> clients to
> > > > > random people I meet in the supermarket are beginning to
> conclude
> > > > > they truly do need to worry. All of these people would
> understand
> > > > > the meaning of a public burning instantly and would all
come
> away
> > > > > from hearing of one that much more consciously radical.
> > > > > > I know some of you are involved in the anti-war

movement.

> Has
> > > > > anyone thought of this?
> > > > > > love and strife,
> > > > > > Aster Francesca {)(*)(}
> > > > > > * Or why don'twe getinthe habit of protesting I

wannother

> > > > officials
> > > > > by beheading them? DEA and Homeland Security officials

come

to
> > > > > mind. Or local police commisioners.
> > > > > > Why don't sex workers publically get together and

declare

> the
> > > > cops
> > > > > and the feds the occupying army there are? Jailed
prostitutes
> are
> > > > > patriarchy's political prisoners. They're arresting us

and

> killing
> > > > > us, and we protest by running ballot initiatives,

throwing

> parties,
> > > > > and having tea with politicians. What gives with that? We
> should
> > > > be
> > > > > declaring people who would ruin lives for practicing

their