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Hello - Hello - Hello
Are still out there somewhere? You posted the original Save Tatiana
Menaker petition on 3/14.
Can you confirm the report below? Is this the reason or reasons
Tatiana Menaker got booted off the SFSU campus??? How does this tie
in with the wording of the petition? Who exactly are the sponsors
of the petition? Do you have any more info about Tatina Menaker and
what really happened?
Or is it a case of: he said - she said - they said - we said? And
we'll never really truly if ever know for certain what really
happened?
Please don't post a petition without any background info whether pro
or con and expect people to blindly sign the petition - "Just
Because....."
Ron Getty
SF Libertarian
--- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, Carol Moore in DC <news@c...>
wrote:
--- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, Ronald Getty
<tradergroupe@y...> wrote:
> Dear Carol Moore and Vargas Painting;
>
> My original question still stands - still waiting on an answer.
(
Hello - Vargas Painting - Hello - Wherever are - Please call home )
>
> What did Tatiana Menaker do to get expelled from SFSU???
OK, I looked up Tatiana Menaker on google and evidently she's a
very
disruptive paranoid -- as well as being a supporter of the
government
stopping criticism of Israel. In the meantime she gets pretty
disruptive
herself at anti-intervention and pro-Palestinian rights events.
Just one
relevant article below.
. Having been at some of the pro-Palestine rights demos where
rowdy
Jewish Defense League types are quite threatening, I can say it's
quite
an issue on campus. Daniel Pipes himself was recently shouted down
at
Berkely appearance where he was effectively promoting using the
state to
shut up anti-Israel critics.
The bottom line is there is a growing and well organized Arab and
Muslim
community in this country with hundreds of thousands of second
generation, very smart and well educated campus and political
activists
challenging Israel's treatment of the Palestinians and US
interventionism against Arab and Muslims. Lots of non-Arab/Muslim
students and activists are learning a lot from them/working with
them
and challenging US and Israeli imperialism.
So many of the organized pro-Israel groups are getting really
scared and
looking to the state to silence them before they get as powerful
as
AIPAC etc.
CM in DC
+++
http://www.jewishsf.com/content/2-0-
/module/displaystory/story_id/21713/format/html/displaystory.html
Friday March 5, 2004
Outspoken right-wing Israel advocate faces five-year S.F. State
suspension
by joe eskenazi , staff writer
Unabashed pro-Israel advocate Tatiana Menaker is facing a
potential
five-year suspension from San Francisco State University after a
pattern
of "disruptive behavior," in the words of school officials.
The university accused Menaker who was forced to serve 40 hours
of
community service after loudly urging pro-Palestinians to commit
unnatural acts with a camel during a May 7, 2002, SFSU quasi-riot
of
nine instances of disruptive behavior during the past two years.
Menaker, a Russian-born mother of three and journalist in the San
Francisco Russian press and right-wing online publications, claims
the
university is being used by "anti-Israel factions" to silence
contrary
voices, and said she is being disciplined "for ideological
reasons, not
because I did something criminal."
Acting university spokeswoman Christina Holmes said Menaker loudly
and
publicly threatened lecturer Deborah Gerson in November, and then
flew
into a rage and threw objects around the office of student
discipline
officer Donna Cunningham in a Monday, Feb. 23, meeting that
resulted in
Menaker being escorted off campus by police.
Calls to Cunningham and other SFSU administrators were deferred to
Holmes. Gerson did not return calls and e-mails.
Menaker countered the university's claims, stating that she calmly
told
Gerson, a member of A Jewish Voice for Peace, "If you believe when
they
start killing Jews, you will be spared, you will be killed two
hours
later."
Regarding her allegedly threatening behavior, Menaker asked, "Do
they
think I'm stupid enough to make a death threat in front of five
other
people? Do they think I'm stupid enough to threaten death to a low-
class
professor from a low-class university? What for?"
In the Feb. 23 meeting with Cunningham, Menaker claims she was
asked to
sign a paper waiving her right to a disciplinary hearing and
agreeing to
a five-year suspension a document since obtained by j. When she
refused to sign the paper, Menaker claims Cunningham summoned
campus
police and had her walked off the university grounds.
Menaker swore "on the life of my children" that she did not shout
at
Cunningham or hurl objects around her office.
At the behest of the Jewish Community Relations Council, lawyer
Ephraim
Margolin took on Menaker as a client, pro bono. He met with SFSU
counsel
Patty Bartscher on Tuesday, March 2, but declined to discuss the
content
of that meeting and refused general comment because he "is still
preparing the case."
A meeting between university officials and Menaker and Margolin is
tentatively set for Monday, March 15. Any future hearing will be
administered by an outside administrative judge.
Both Rabbi Doug Kahn, executive director of the JCRC, and Jonathan
Bernstein, Anti-Defamation League regional director, met this week
with
SFSU administrators, with both emerging "cautiously optimistic"
that a
satisfactory solution could be worked out.
Bernstein had wondered if the university was "overreacting" and
"clamping down too hard" prior to the meeting, but he emerged
confident
that justice will be done.
"I respect the process that is being put into place here. Tatiana
is
represented and there's an unbiased, neutral party making this
decision.
So I don't have any other suggestion on how this process should be
changed," he said.
"It seems clear to me that the university has been open to hearing
the
concerns we've conveyed about this case and open to the
possibility of