GOP Group Cancels Straw Poll After Ron Paul Supporters Pour In

Was The Boston Tea Party uneffective?

Were any of those who participated elected to office?

Marcy

Was The Boston Tea Party uneffective?
  From: Amarcy D. Berry
  To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 12:19 PM
  Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Re: GOP Group Cancels Straw Poll After Ron

Paul Supporters Pour In

  No, Starchild, I would not have participated in the Boston Tea Party
  either!

  I completely agree with you that the establishment's hostility against
  libertarianism (not just against Ron Paul) requires a struggle to
  overcome. We just disagree on whether some forms of struggle are
  effective.

  Marcy

  >
  > Marcy,
  >
  > I meant "raising a clamor for justice" metaphorically, not
  > necessarily literally -- although literally is one way to do it.

I do

  > consider the political establishment's hostility to Ron Paul to

be a

  > real problem, not just an "everyday difference" but a serious
  > obstacle that requires a struggle to overcome.
  >
  > What do you think you would have said in 1773 to the idea of the
  > Boston Tea Party?
  >
  > Love & Liberty,
  > ((( starchild )))
  >
  >
  >
  > > Dear Starchild,
  > >
  > > You might be entirely correct! However, you have known me long

enough

  > > to have anticipated my feelings toward radicalization of

anything! I

  > > have consistently appealed to our groups to solve everyday

differences

  > > amicably. Save the shouting for a *real* problem!
  > >
  > > Regards,
  > >
  > > Marcy
  > >
  > > >
  > > > Marcy,
  > > >
  > > > That's my bottom line as well. But I do believe that the most
  > > > effective response to an injustice occurring, if our aim is to
  > > > advance the cause, is to raise a clamor for justice.

Radicalizing

  > > and
  > > > motivating the people on our own side is probably even more

key to

  > > > our success than drawing the maximum amount of public sympathy.
  > > >
  > > > Love & Liberty,
  > > > ((( starchild )))
  > > >
  > > >
  > > >
  > > > > Dear Phil,
  > > > >
  > > > > Bottom line is always (IMHO) whether the actions we take
  > > further our
  > > > > cause or not. It's a tough call.
  > > > >
  > > > > Marcy
  > > > >
  > > > > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Philip Berg" <philip@>
  > > wrote:
  > > > > >
  > > > > > Sometimes verbal protest is called for. What were we

supposed to

  > > > > do. Just take it like sheep and quietly walk out?
  > > > > > From: Amarcy D. Berry
  > > > > > To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
  > > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 5:43 PM
  > > > > > Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Re: GOP Group Cancels Straw Poll
  > > After Ron
  > > > > Paul Supporters Pour In
  > > > > >
  > > > > >
  > > > > > Thank you, Phil. I agree with you. As an aside, I

personally

  > > believe
  > > > > > such melee hurts the libertarian cause.
  > > > > >
  > > > > > Marcy
  > > > > >
  > > > > > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Philip Berg"

<philip@>

  > > wrote:
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > > It was her party. She owns the organization which is not
  > > > > affiliated
  > > > > > with the GOP. It was classless, and fraudalent, and
  > > > > inconsiderate, but
  > > > > > it's her thing.
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > > No state action is warrented.
  > > > > > > From: Kurt Ferber
  > > > > > > To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
  > > > > > > Cc: Dr. Michael R. Edelstein ; Ron Paul San Francisco

Meetup

  > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:52 AM
  > > > > > > Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] GOP Group Cancels Straw Poll
  > > After Ron
  > > > > > Paul Supporters Pour In
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > > Hi all,
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > > I would like to file a complaint with the FEC.
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > > Could someone versed in law draft a complaint template
  > > > > > > based on the FEC guidelines here
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > > http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/complain.shtml
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > > Thanks
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > > Kurt
  > > > > > > NYC
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > > --- Starchild <sfdreamer@> wrote:
  > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > I just posted this comment on the blog:
  > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > The organizer, or at least the contact person for the
  > > event, was
  > > > > > Gail
  > > > > > > > Neira -- she can be reached at (415) 820~1430 or (415)
  > > 821~4452.
  > > > > > Ron
  > > > > > > > Paul supporters might wish to call and demand their

money

  > > back
  > > > > for
  > > > > > > > the event if they haven't already. It also seems

possible

  > > that
  > > > > this
  > > > > > > > action somehow violated the California Republican

Assembly's

  > > > > > bylaws.
  > > > > > > > The state CRA bylaws can be found at http://
  > > > > > > > www.californiarepublicanassembly.com/bylaws ... ; I

could

  > > not
  > > > > find
  > > > > > > > any bylaws online for the SF group ( http://
  > > members.tripod.com/
  > > > > > > > ~CRA0115/SFCRA.html ). If the SFCRA does not have any
  > > bylaws,
  > > > > that
  > > > > > > > would be a violation of the state CRA charter.
  > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > Love & Liberty,
  > > > > > > > ((( starchild )))
  > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > > Michael,
  > > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > > That's outrageous. Did the Ron Paul supporters ask

for and

  > > > > > receive
  > > > > > > > > their money back? I think you have grounds to

demand it.

  > > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > > ((( starchild )))
  > > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > >
  > > > > > > > >>
  > > > > > > > >> December 05, 2007
  > > > > > > > >>
  > > > > > > > >> San Francisco GOP Group Cancels Straw Poll After

Ron Paul

  > > > > > > > >> Supporters Pour In
  > > > > > > > >>
  > > > > > > > >> Posted by Eric A. Garris at December 5, 2007 12:48 AM
  > > > > > > > >> Scores of Ron Paul supporters showed up to the San
  > > Francisco
  > > > > > > > >> Republican Alliance dinner, where they were

treated to an