Was The Boston Tea Party uneffective?
Were any of those who participated elected to office?
Marcy
Was The Boston Tea Party uneffective?
From: Amarcy D. Berry
To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 12:19 PM
Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Re: GOP Group Cancels Straw Poll After Ron
Paul Supporters Pour In
No, Starchild, I would not have participated in the Boston Tea Party
either!I completely agree with you that the establishment's hostility against
libertarianism (not just against Ron Paul) requires a struggle to
overcome. We just disagree on whether some forms of struggle are
effective.Marcy
>
> Marcy,
>
> I meant "raising a clamor for justice" metaphorically, not
> necessarily literally -- although literally is one way to do it.
I do
> consider the political establishment's hostility to Ron Paul to
be a
> real problem, not just an "everyday difference" but a serious
> obstacle that requires a struggle to overcome.
>
> What do you think you would have said in 1773 to the idea of the
> Boston Tea Party?
>
> Love & Liberty,
> ((( starchild )))
>
>
>
> > Dear Starchild,
> >
> > You might be entirely correct! However, you have known me long
enough
> > to have anticipated my feelings toward radicalization of
anything! I
> > have consistently appealed to our groups to solve everyday
differences
> > amicably. Save the shouting for a *real* problem!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Marcy
> >
> > >
> > > Marcy,
> > >
> > > That's my bottom line as well. But I do believe that the most
> > > effective response to an injustice occurring, if our aim is to
> > > advance the cause, is to raise a clamor for justice.
Radicalizing
> > and
> > > motivating the people on our own side is probably even more
key to
> > > our success than drawing the maximum amount of public sympathy.
> > >
> > > Love & Liberty,
> > > ((( starchild )))
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dear Phil,
> > > >
> > > > Bottom line is always (IMHO) whether the actions we take
> > further our
> > > > cause or not. It's a tough call.
> > > >
> > > > Marcy
> > > >
> > > > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Philip Berg" <philip@>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sometimes verbal protest is called for. What were we
supposed to
> > > > do. Just take it like sheep and quietly walk out?
> > > > > From: Amarcy D. Berry
> > > > > To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 5:43 PM
> > > > > Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Re: GOP Group Cancels Straw Poll
> > After Ron
> > > > Paul Supporters Pour In
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you, Phil. I agree with you. As an aside, I
personally
> > believe
> > > > > such melee hurts the libertarian cause.
> > > > >
> > > > > Marcy
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Philip Berg"
<philip@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It was her party. She owns the organization which is not
> > > > affiliated
> > > > > with the GOP. It was classless, and fraudalent, and
> > > > inconsiderate, but
> > > > > it's her thing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No state action is warrented.
> > > > > > From: Kurt Ferber
> > > > > > To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Cc: Dr. Michael R. Edelstein ; Ron Paul San Francisco
Meetup
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:52 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] GOP Group Cancels Straw Poll
> > After Ron
> > > > > Paul Supporters Pour In
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would like to file a complaint with the FEC.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Could someone versed in law draft a complaint template
> > > > > > based on the FEC guidelines here
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/complain.shtml
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kurt
> > > > > > NYC
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- Starchild <sfdreamer@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just posted this comment on the blog:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The organizer, or at least the contact person for the
> > event, was
> > > > > Gail
> > > > > > > Neira -- she can be reached at (415) 820~1430 or (415)
> > 821~4452.
> > > > > Ron
> > > > > > > Paul supporters might wish to call and demand their
money
> > back
> > > > for
> > > > > > > the event if they haven't already. It also seems
possible
> > that
> > > > this
> > > > > > > action somehow violated the California Republican
Assembly's
> > > > > bylaws.
> > > > > > > The state CRA bylaws can be found at http://
> > > > > > > www.californiarepublicanassembly.com/bylaws ... ; I
could
> > not
> > > > find
> > > > > > > any bylaws online for the SF group ( http://
> > members.tripod.com/
> > > > > > > ~CRA0115/SFCRA.html ). If the SFCRA does not have any
> > bylaws,
> > > > that
> > > > > > > would be a violation of the state CRA charter.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Love & Liberty,
> > > > > > > ((( starchild )))
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Michael,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That's outrageous. Did the Ron Paul supporters ask
for and
> > > > > receive
> > > > > > > > their money back? I think you have grounds to
demand it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ((( starchild )))
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> December 05, 2007
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> San Francisco GOP Group Cancels Straw Poll After
Ron Paul
> > > > > > > >> Supporters Pour In
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Posted by Eric A. Garris at December 5, 2007 12:48 AM
> > > > > > > >> Scores of Ron Paul supporters showed up to the San
> > Francisco
> > > > > > > >> Republican Alliance dinner, where they were
treated to an