FYI WARNING: July 1 Ca. Veh Code Changes - $285 fine for cellphone use without hands-free device while driving, etc.

Here's a timely warning about the California government's latest extortion schemes targeting drivers in the state, for those who drive or have friends/family that do (i.e. virtually everyone). And not only drivers -- they are also now starting to separately ticket passengers for not wearing seatbelts!

  Some of these penalties are getting so onerous, I think that a ballot initiative in this area (for instance cutting all vehicle-related fines including for bicycles, pedestrians, etc., in half and limiting any future increases to the rate of inflation) could be quite popular. The first time penalty for driving in a carpool lane is apparently now over $1000! See details below...

Love & Liberty,
        <<< starchild >>>

This is indeed onerous!

Given, however, that PR and marketing are bad things, we're going to have trouble getting the word out -- let alone taking steps to repeal these laws.

'Tis a shame! :wink:

Cheers,

Bri!

Starchild <sfdreamer@...> wrote:
Here's a timely warning about the California government's latest extortion schemes targeting drivers in the state, for those who drive or have friends/family that do (i.e. virtually everyone). And not only drivers -- they are also now starting to separately ticket passengers for not wearing seatbelts!

Some of these penalties are getting so onerous, I think that a ballot initiative in this area (for instance cutting all vehicle-related fines including for bicycles, pedestrians, etc., in half and limiting any future increases to the rate of inflation) could be quite popular. The first time penalty for driving in a carpool lane is apparently now over $1000! See details below...

Love & Liberty,
    <<< starchild >>>

Brian,

  Spreading the message of liberty and teaching and informing people are not bad things. My issue with "marketing" and "PR" are that they smack of a whole corporate approach that is very scientific and impersonal about seeking to manipulate peoples' opinions. Such practices cause many people to feel alienated and manipulated. I know, because I am one of them. We don't want to be responsible for making people feel this way, especially if they develop those feelings toward libertarianism or the LP.

Love & Liberty,
        <<< starchild >>>

Sorry, I guess I was just under the impression that we're the party of capitalism, including creative and effective communications about liberty. My bad!

Cheers,

Brian

Starchild <sfdreamer@...> wrote: Brian,

Spreading the message of liberty and teaching and informing people are not bad things. My issue with "marketing" and "PR" are that they smack of a whole corporate approach that is very scientific and impersonal about seeking to manipulate peoples' opinions. Such practices cause many people to feel alienated and manipulated. I know, because I am one of them. We don't want to be responsible for making people feel this way, especially if they develop those feelings toward libertarianism or the LP.

Love & Liberty,
    <<< starchild >>>

Numerous people, including the person who sent me the original message, have confirmed this is a hoax. Sorry for the false alarm. Here is the (presumably) correct info, courtesy of the original sender whose message follows, and the Internet Legend debunking site Snopes.com: