Rob,
If we're going to go there, you ought to address the issue of how the
abortion debate resembles the animal rights debate, and how I argued we
ought to be able to recognize good-faith libertarian views on both
sides of both issues.
Yours in liberty,
<<< Starchild >>>
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Hash: SHA1Not that I want to re-open the foie gras debate, Starchild, but does
this email make it clear to you why I think legislating anyone's
morality, even that of the vast majority, is a _BAD_ idea? Can you
imagine if the libertarian principles were based only on "morality",
such that Chris would have to change his campaign slogan to "legalize
lying, legalize license, legalize vice"?Again I say that legislating _ANYONE'S_ morality is a very dangerous
and un-libertarian thing.Rob
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From: Robert C. Arne [mailto:robert@schoolofchoice.com]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 1:01 PM
To: Starchild
Cc: Rob Power; lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com;
ba-liberty@yahoogroups.com;
ca-liberty@yahoogroups.com; office@ca.lp.org; starrcpa@pacbell.net;
lawsamz@hotmail.com; outrightsf@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Freedom above and below the waistStrchild:
You can always refer to Masters and Johnson on the hard realities of
American sex. Just because most people lie at some point, one can
not form
a political party for liars which justifies lying and tries to make
it
socially respectable. You can not come out and say "I represent the
party
that wants people to cheat on their husbands and abandon their wives
and
children." You would get nowhere.Uphold morality and freedom, and you will find the liberty for all
the
licence you wish. Uphold license and freedom, and you will only end
up with
a Brave New World of license and authoritarianism.Surely Orwell was right to choose Winston as his hero rather than
Juila,
because Julia had no deep thoughts about liberty. Hers was liberty
below
the waist. Have you ever read that great libertarian book, Brave New
World?
It demonstrates convincingly how superficial people who involve
themselves
only in physical sensations like sex and drugs are incapable of
demanding a
free society. They can't conceive of such abstract concepts as the
dignity
of the individual and the value of freedom of speech because they are
too
busy porking each other.If Democrats or Greens legalize vice, they will create Brave New
World. If
Libertarians and conservatives legalize vice, they will do so to
demonstrate
that responsibility is the natural need of a free society.For Liberty and Higher Education,
Robert C. Arne, Headmaster
The School of Choice
(408) 244-9900
www.schoolofchoice.com
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