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Dear Marcy;

As Marcy said:

BTW, I believe we started the plant discussion with my comment that as libertarians, we prefer to influence the market with things we do, rather than with government
edicts; such as what we purchase, what we eat, etc

As an prime example I wrote this for an op-ed which was published:

Cesar Chavez, the charismatic leader of the United Farm Workers, made a strategic error with his grape boycott. To gain better wages, benefits, and more farm worker employment, he needed only to create a higher consumer demand for grapes. Free-market forces would have required the growers to plant and harvest more grapes, thus necessitating more workers to plant and harvest the grapes. Competing growers would have had to offer better pay and benefits to attract farm workers. Then Chavez's dream of better working conditions for farm workers would have been accomplished without the forced contracts between the grape growers and the UFW following 16 years of strikes, marches, and secondary boycotts.

BTW: for the record which no one really talks about Cesar Chavez was strongly against illegal immigrants. Why? They were competing for the jobs of legal immigrants and US citizens taking away a bargaining point for farm labor and forcing a drop in pay by undercutting the legal immigrants. Yes this is correcto mundo.

Yes talk food and veggies or whatever but relate it to Libertarian principles and philosophies and so on.

Ron Getty - SF Libertarian
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Morte ai Tiranni
Dum Spiro, Pugno

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Dear All,

So the beauty of this list is that you all have IQ's of a million and
senses of humor to match. After a 14 hour day of work, I was feeling
rather down; all I had to do was read the latest thread on Eating
Plants to laugh out loud and feel great. Yes Michael D. your post does
qualify and is pretty interesting info to boot. And as a
Brazilian/Argentinian, I loved Glenn's post! Raised on gobs of lard,
cheap Argentinian beef, "bacalhau" dripping with olive oil, I am
amazed I am still alive, and my Mom recently celebrated her 90th birthday.

This all means that libertarianism works. We are all free to follow
whatever diet we chose, purchase whatever products we like to eat.
Were Big Brother in charge of diets, what would it mandate? Based on what?

Marcy

Dear Marcy;

As Marcy said:

BTW, I believe we started the plant discussion with my comment that

as libertarians, we prefer to influence the market with things we do,
rather than with government

edicts; such as what we purchase, what we eat, etc

As an prime example I wrote this for an op-ed which was published:

Cesar Chavez, the charismatic leader of the United Farm Workers,

made a strategic error with his grape boycott. To gain better wages,
benefits, and more farm worker employment, he needed only to create a
higher consumer demand for grapes. Free-market forces would have
required the growers to plant and harvest more grapes, thus
necessitating more workers to plant and harvest the grapes. Competing
growers would have had to offer better pay and benefits to attract
farm workers. Then Chavez's dream of better working conditions for
farm workers would have been accomplished without the forced contracts
between the grape growers and the UFW following 16 years of strikes,
marches, and secondary boycotts.

BTW: for the record which no one really talks about Cesar Chavez was

strongly against illegal immigrants. Why? They were competing for the
jobs of legal immigrants and US citizens taking away a bargaining
point for farm labor and forcing a drop in pay by undercutting the
legal immigrants. Yes this is correcto mundo.

Yes talk food and veggies or whatever but relate it to Libertarian

principles and philosophies and so on.