Content for LPSF public access TV show? ExCom vote requested

I think it would be cool to try to get copies of these commercials and run them on our own public access show (see item below). We could issue a press release about it and possibly get some good publicity. Can we get an ExCom vote authorizing this? While not a super time-sensitive item, probably the sooner the better for news value, and I see no reason to wait till next meeting as I don't expect it to be controversial among our group. If it's a go, I'll contact the Marijuana Anti-Prohibition Project and seek to have them send us copies to air.

Love & liberty,
        <<< starchild >>>

Hi Starchild,

Thank you for the idea of running the ads. However, I would have to
vote "No" at this time, since I do not know the policies of S.F. Cable
Access TV on running ads. It is interesting that the ads were pulled
from the Time Warner Cable channels, which to me would translate into
call for a little caution on the part of the LPSF.

Marcy

  I think it would be cool to try to get copies of these commercials

and

run them on our own public access show (see item below). We could

issue

a press release about it and possibly get some good publicity. Can we
get an ExCom vote authorizing this? While not a super time-sensitive
item, probably the sooner the better for news value, and I see no
reason to wait till next meeting as I don't expect it to be
controversial among our group. If it's a go, I'll contact the

Marijuana

Anti-Prohibition Project and seek to have them send us copies to air.

Love & liberty,
        <<< starchild >>>

> From: "Brett Stone" <zz4320@...>
> Date: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:27:46 AM US/Pacific
> To: "CC ASA" <central-ca@...>, "Dale Gieringer"
> <canorml@...>, dpfca@..., "LA ASA"
> <losangeles@...>,
> northern-ca@...,
> sanfrancisco@..., "SD ASA"
> <sandiego@...>
> Subject: [sanfrancisco] Cable company pulls medical marijuana ads
>
> BACKGROUND: This is a follow up story to the item posted at
> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/mmjnews/message/424 in the group.
>
> Cable company pulls medical marijuana ads
>
> WATCH THE COMMERCIALS
>
> Marijuana: Compassion and Common Sense" is being aired on several
> cable access channels in Riverside County and the Los Angeles area:
>
> Nurse Appears In Marijuana Anti-Prohibition Commercial
> The Desert Sun | Palm Springs and Coachella Valley news
> 0816_marijuana1_VIDEO.pbs
>
> Physician discusses use of medical marijuana
> The Desert Sun | Palm Springs and Coachella Valley news
> 0816_marijuana2_VIDEO.pbs
>
> Marijuana Anti-Prohibition Commercial
> The Desert Sun | Palm Springs and Coachella Valley news
> 0816_marijuana3_VIDEO.pbs
>
> WHERE TO SEE IT
>
> Coachella Valley: Time Warner Channel 18, 11 p.m. Tuesday, Friday

and

I found my copy of Access San Francisco Policies and Procedures
Manual, and quote the following which might apply to Starchild's
proposed ads:

"Producers shall not cablecast programming that contains commercial
content. Commercial content is any display, announcement, and/or
reference designed to promote the sale of any products, services,
enterprises, or event. Commercial promotion is any direct or indirect
call to action."

"Programs cannot become infomercials, that is, information provided
with the underlying purpose to promote the sale of the item or service."

Marcy

--- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Amarcy D. Berry" <amarcyb@...>
wrote:

Hi Starchild,

Thank you for the idea of running the ads. However, I would have to
vote "No" at this time, since I do not know the policies of S.F. Cable
Access TV on running ads. It is interesting that the ads were pulled
from the Time Warner Cable channels, which to me would translate into
call for a little caution on the part of the LPSF.

Marcy

>
> I think it would be cool to try to get copies of these commercials
and
> run them on our own public access show (see item below). We could
issue
> a press release about it and possibly get some good publicity. Can

we

> get an ExCom vote authorizing this? While not a super time-sensitive
> item, probably the sooner the better for news value, and I see no
> reason to wait till next meeting as I don't expect it to be
> controversial among our group. If it's a go, I'll contact the
Marijuana
> Anti-Prohibition Project and seek to have them send us copies to air.
>
> Love & liberty,
> <<< starchild >>>
>
>
>
> > From: "Brett Stone" <zz4320@>
> > Date: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:27:46 AM US/Pacific
> > To: "CC ASA" <central-ca@>, "Dale Gieringer"
> > <canorml@>, dpfca@, "LA ASA"
> > <losangeles@>,
> > northern-ca@,
> > sanfrancisco@, "SD ASA"
> > <sandiego@>
> > Subject: [sanfrancisco] Cable company pulls medical marijuana ads
> >
> > BACKGROUND: This is a follow up story to the item posted at
> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/mmjnews/message/424 in the

group.

> >
> > Cable company pulls medical marijuana ads
> >
> > WATCH THE COMMERCIALS
> >
> > Marijuana: Compassion and Common Sense" is being aired on several
> > cable access channels in Riverside County and the Los Angeles area:
> >
> > Nurse Appears In Marijuana Anti-Prohibition Commercial
> > The Desert Sun | Palm Springs and Coachella Valley news
> > 0816_marijuana1_VIDEO.pbs
> >
> > Physician discusses use of medical marijuana
> > The Desert Sun | Palm Springs and Coachella Valley news
> > 0816_marijuana2_VIDEO.pbs
> >
> > Marijuana Anti-Prohibition Commercial
> > The Desert Sun | Palm Springs and Coachella Valley news
> > 0816_marijuana3_VIDEO.pbs
> >
> > WHERE TO SEE IT
> >
> > Coachella Valley: Time Warner Channel 18, 11 p.m. Tuesday, Friday
and
> > Saturday
> > Desert Hot Springs: Adelphia Channel 10, 11 p.m. Tuesday and

Thursday.

> > Yucca Valley and Twentynine Palms: Adelphia Channel 6, 9 p.m.

Tuesday,

> > Friday and Saturday.
> > Temecula: Adelphia Channel 3, 10:30 a.m. Wednesday.
> > Glendale, Burbank, La Crescenta, Montrose, Flintridge: Charter Cable
> > Channel 25, 10:30 p.m. Thursday.
> > Hollywood, Culver City, Marina Del Ray, Venice: Time Warner Channel
> > 24, 11 p.m. Friday.
> >
> > Source: Marijuana Anti-Prohibition Project
> >
> > K Kaufmann
> > The Desert Sun
> > August 17, 2006
> >
> > Time Warner Cable Desert Cities has pulled the plug on three ads
> > promoting medical marijuana that were scheduled to debut Friday on
> > four popular cable channels in the Coachella Valley.
> >
> > The ads, produced by the Marijuana Anti-Prohibition Project, a local
> > medical marijuana advocacy group, had been scheduled to run every
> > other week for three months on Comedy Central, MSNBC, the Travel
> > Channel and Home and Garden Television, said Lanny Swerdlow, the
> > group's president.
> >
> > "They are censoring speech that they don't approve of. They

should not

> > be doing that," said Swerdlow, who found out about the cancellation
> > only after being called by a reporter Wednesday. "They should be in
> > the business of fostering new ideas, not trying to squelch them," he
> > said.
> >
> > Swerdlow said he had signed a contract with Time Warner on Aug.

7 and

> > paid the company for the first month. The contract allows the

company

> > to cancel the ads, but only with 14 days' prior notice, he said.
> >
> > Swerdlow also expects a full refund of the money.
> >
> > Cable access show still on
> >
> > Kathi Jacobs, public affairs director for Time Warner, did not

give a

> > reason for the cancellation. "The ads have been turned down," Jacobs
> > said. "They will not be aired."
> >
> > But, she said, Time Warner will continue to run "Marijuana:

Compassion

> > and Common Sense," the half-hour show MAPP airs in the Coachella
> > Valley at 11 p.m. Tuesdays, Fridays and Saturdays on cable access
> > Channel 18.
> >
> > The company has no control over content on the cable access channel,
> > Jacobs said, beyond scheduling the show outside of prime-time hours.
> >
> > While the use of doctor-prescribed medical marijuana is legal in
> > California thanks to a proposition passed by the voters, under

federal

> > law, any use of marijuana is illegal.
> >
> > The Food and Drug Administration issued a statement in April
> > reiterating its long-held position that marijuana has no medicinal
> > value.
> >
> > The canceled ads sought to counter that view.
> >
> > One is a pitch for the cable access show, which consists mostly of
> > interviews with patients, researchers and medical professionals. The
> > other two ads feature medical professionals - Dr. Philip A.

Denney in

> > one and Anna T. Boyce, a registered nurse, in the other - talking
> > about the benefits of medical marijuana.
> >
> > Boyce is one of the original sponsors of Proposition 215, the 1996
> > ballot initiative that legalized medical marijuana in California.
> >
> > Speaking before the cancellation, she said, "I'm hoping that whoever
> > listens to the ads, if they have a plugged mind, (this) will

open it."

Starchild wrote:

  I think it would be cool to try to get copies of these commercials and
run them on our own public access show (see item below). We could issue
a press release about it and possibly get some good publicity. Can we
get an ExCom vote authorizing this?

When there's something to vote on.

First, the TV Subcommittee (that's Morey and Marcy) can run these if they
want. That's their job.

Second, we can't issue a press release that hasn't been written. With a
draft, the ExCom can authorize use of the LPSF name on it.

Make it happen.

~Chris

Dear Chris;

Moot points. See Marcy's reply re running commericals on public access TV and it's ag'in the laws rules and regulations and so on.

Certainly wouldn't want Public Access TV to become another Public Broadcasting System and it's non-commercial status with it's free public TV and no commercial ads or support and just viewer support through pledeges and donations and its billion dollar taxpayers support - without their consent - whether they like it or not.

Fire PBS.

Ron Getty
SF Libertarian

Marcy wrote:

"Producers shall not cablecast programming that contains commercial
content. Commercial content is any display, announcement, and/or
reference designed to promote the sale of any products, services,
enterprises, or event. Commercial promotion is any direct or indirect
call to action."

"Programs cannot become infomercials, that is, information provided
with the underlying purpose to promote the sale of the item or service."

These commercials are issue ads, not really *commercial* per se.

Also, political ads are often news in and of themselves; unfortunately,
since we're not actually producing content, we can't provide a commentary
framework in which to present them.

~Chris

I don't think this applies, as I don't believe this would fall under commercial content, seeing as it's issue advocacy, not selling any products or services. However, there is perhaps a different reason why it wouldn't be allowed on public access TV.

Jeremy

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Dear Marcy and Morey ( And Everybody Else) :slight_smile:

The bestest thing is to go get in touch with the Public Access Commisars of Broadcast and ask instead of everybody conjecturing.

Tah Dah!!

Ron Getty
SF Libertarian

Dear Ron and All,

I have expressed my opinion. However, if you all or any of you feel
strongly about trying to run these ads in our TV show, I will not
stand in your way. (I try to pick my battles carefully!)

Note: I am agreeing with Chris Maden that this is a TV Show Committee
issue and not an ExCom issue.

Marcy

Dear Marcy and Morey ( And Everybody Else) :slight_smile:

The bestest thing is to go get in touch with the Public Access

Commisars of Broadcast and ask instead of everybody conjecturing.

Tah Dah!!

Ron Getty
SF Libertarian

From: Jeremy Linden <jlinden@...>
To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 4:10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] Re: Content for LPSF public access TV

show? ExCom vote requested

> I found my copy of Access San Francisco Policies and Procedures
> Manual, and quote the following which might apply to Starchild's
> proposed ads:
>
> "Producers shall not cablecast programming that contains commercial
> content. Commercial content is any display, announcement, and/or
> reference designed to promote the sale of any products, services,
> enterprises, or event. Commercial promotion is any direct or indirect
> call to action."
>
> "Programs cannot become infomercials, that is, information provided
> with the underlying purpose to promote the sale of the item or

service."

I don't think this applies, as I don't believe this would fall under
commercial content, seeing as it's issue advocacy, not selling any
products or services. However, there is perhaps a different reason

why it

Not that I have any say in the matter, but these are not "commercials" in
the sense of the Public Access policy definition. They are not intended to
sell any product or service. They are more properly classified as "Public
Service Announcements" or PSAs, which are shown on public access TV all the
time. In fact, FCC regulations require commercial broadcasters to air a
specific number of PSAs each week to maintain their broadcast license. We
would, of course, advocate the repeal of these regulations in the event we
ever had that authority, but since we don't, well, "the more you know..."

What might be done with them, however, would be to have a televised
discussion on medical marijuana, perhaps with guests from ASA or other
groups involved in the issue, and then break up the talking head panel
periodically with these short, 30-second clips. And include a plug for the
LPSF as well.

Terry Floyd