The problem with Parkhurst's logic is that 'letting things
deteriorate to the point where no one can stand it' can just as
easily rebound in the other direction. History's full of examples of
societies in a state of collapse where people grabbed any leader who
promised them a way out of their problems; and more often than not,
they ended up with something even worse.
I think the future is unpredictable, and there is always the
possibility of things getting better rapidly, and we should remain
open to this possibility and ready to seize opportunities that may
arise, even though gradual improvement generally seems more
But I would have to be pretty cynical to have voted for McCain
to help things deteriorate to the point where no one can stand it.
Love & Liberty,
((( starchild )))
> There are two ways to make things better - - - try to gradually
> improve them or let them get so bad no one can stand it.
> From: Starchild
> To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] Fwd: Closure: The Obama Inauguration
> I hope you aren't implying that Barr and Paul should have bowed
> in favor of John McCain, or that the people who voted for them
> have voted for the Republican establishment's candidate. That
> logic is the #1 reason the Libertarian Party doesn't have more
> electoral success.
> But maybe you feel that elections work best when people cast their
> votes based on how they think other people are going to vote,
> of supporting the candidate they believe will do the best job? If
> only the media spent more time talking about who was up and down
> the polls, instead of engaging in so much substantive political
> analysis of the positions of the various candidates on the issues,
> more people might have used the approach you seem to be
> to determine how to vote. But alas, some of us were too well
> about what the candidates stood for.
> Love & Liberty,
> ((( starchild )))
> > Bob Barr and Ron Paul helped elect Barak Obama keep up the
> > From: Glenn Rapp
> > To: email@example.com
> > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:09 PM
> > Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] Fwd: Closure: The Obama Inauguration
> > Bob Barr..??? Puleeze
> > --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "ERIC"
> > <lincolnproducts@> wrote:
> > This morning, Barak Obama was sworn in as 44th President. The
> > and friends of liberty stand at a crossroads. We may have
> > reservations about the incoming administration, yet no one is
> > to see the outgoing one gone. Can libertarianism come back? That
> > depends on us. We need to focus on three points right now, or
> > ourselves to let Obama decide the course of the future:
> > 1. Get out of denial. We are in this situation because we let
> > conservative/ libertarian movement get hijacked by statist
> > They are the ones responsible for this situation. There is
> > repeat nothing the democrats can do to make the situation the
> > created worse. Libertarianism is about free minds and free
> > and the non-initiation of force. Anyone who says differently
> not a
> > libertarian.
> > 2. Ignore the democrats. Don't get bogged down beating up on
> > we know what they are. Focus our short-term goals on making
> > this doesn't happen again. That means shedding the movement of
> > neocons and socialcons once and for all. Work to defeat
> > neocons like Palin and Schwarznegger. Reject aspiring ones like
> > Jingol and Arpaio.
> > 3. Ignore the media machine. Turn our backs on neocon
> > the press pools and megachurches who've led us into defeat. Get
> > involved instead with rebuilding a genuine libertarian movement.
> > We're simply going to have to face facts: these neocon/socialcon
> > frauds have turned everything we believe in into an
> > laughingstock. We have to realize that after 20 years of
> > Bush/Gingrich, the American people are NOT going to be won over
> > platitudes.
> > We saw a nucleus of a counter-neocon movement in 2008 with Ron