city services for free

http://www.core77.com/blog/object_culture/nyc_street_toilets_unveiled_3559.asp

-- Steve

Steve,

  I believe what's described in the blog linked below is very similar to the contract which is already in place here is SF with J.C. Decaux, with the difference that I don't think they are paying a fee to the city, just providing toilets and newsstands in exchange for advertising rights. I think the public toilets here also have doors that open automatically after a certain length of time, but I'm not sure -- I've never actually used one, preferring to find a free toilet than give any money to the city.

Yours in liberty,
        <<< starchild >>>

http://www.core77.com/blog/object_culture/
nyc_street_toilets_unveiled_3559.asp

-- Steve

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In the nineteenth century
there were public facilities
including bathouses
provided by wealthy
individuals throughout the
city, at least in Baltimore. If
we didn't have the income
tax and the expectation was
that if it was not done by
private generosity it would
not get done, we would
likely see much of these
public services still, safe,
well lit, clean and maybe
even attended, that is, if
there were no minimum
wage. I believe that in
Baltimore, it was Walters
and Pratt who built these
facilities. I went to
kindergarden, first and
second grade in a woderful,
elegant, stone columned,
building with soaring
cathedral ceilings, built by
Andrew Carnegie as a gift
to the city of Baltimore as a
public library. the city
changed it to a school, and
now it's sold to a non profit
as a clay craft shop,with the
architecture mucked up.
Carnegie built, I believe,
way over 10,000 public
libraries throughout the
United States. His big
mistake was bequething
them to city governments.
Carnegies innovatins greatly
reduced the price of steel,
by some estimates by over
ninety percent, and greatly
resuced the amount of labor
involved. I have read that at
the outbreak of wwI,
Carnegies mills could
produce steel with one
quarter of the man hours of
Krupps in the mighty Ruhr
valley. this is the story of
the evil Robber Baron.
Lucky thing I had such fond
memories of his bequest
when I was reveiving the
robber Baren dogma in my
public high school.

Interesting! Those must be new, as I never saw such a thing when I was in London a couple years ago. I was actually in the very location where that photo was taken, as I notice the Zimbabwean embassy is in the background, and I remember leaving a token of my dissatisfaction with the regime in Zimbabwe on their building. 8)

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These are all over London. They're the best solution IMO.

http://nickm.com/implementation/2004-07-16/London__Outdoor_Urinal_1.html

Steve,

   I believe what&#39;s described in the blog linked below is very similar to

the contract which is already in place here is SF with J.C. Decaux,
with the difference that I don't think they are paying a fee to the
city, just providing toilets and newsstands in exchange for advertising
rights. I think the public toilets here also have doors that open
automatically after a certain length of time, but I'm not sure -- I've
never actually used one, preferring to find a free toilet than give any
money to the city.

Yours in liberty,
<<< starchild >>>

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