Cato vs. Mises (was Re: Party goals)

"ricochetboy" <philzberg@e...> wrote:

If you believe the government statistics on cpi and unemployment, then
some research on your part might be advised.

Hand-waving about nebulous government conspiracies counts as neither
evidence nor argument.

it seems to this obsrever
that there is a great deal of suffering going on in the cities the
suburbs and the hinterlands, and that when viewed through an Austrian
lens, our economy and our people are in for a very rough ride.

Vouching doesn't count as evidence or argument either, and the plural of
"anecdote" is not "data".

I vividly remeber one Cato
scholar on C Span smugly telling folks, if they just put thier 401 k
into stocks they will be OK. Well anyone who retired in 1929 or 1966
would have waited 20 years for the purchasing power of thier portfolio
to break even.

The Cato Institute's reputation does not stand or fall on your memory of a
single quote of a Cato scholar speaking extemporaneously on television.
Under standard investment practices, nobody who retired in 1929 or 1966
would have had an equities-weighted portfolio. Rather, the standard practice
is to weight your portfolio toward less volatile instruments -- typically
bonds -- as you approach retirement. The Great Depression was a one-time
outlier event; that's why it's called "the Great Depression" instead of "the
1930s depression". To understand the historical returns to equities since
1871 without the above cherry-picking , see
http://www.vakkur.com/financial/spx_real_rtns_1871.htm. There has never been
a 30-year period with negative real returns, and more than 90% of 20-year
periods have had positive returns.

It has been a
great ride. But all credit expansions end in trdgedy. They always
have. This one being global due to Bretton Woods, and unlimited due to
the worldwide adoption of a faith based paper money system, will end
very badly.

Has the massive increase in global annual output since Nixon closed the gold
window in 1971 been somehow illusory? Do you question not only CPI and
unemployment but also GDP as part of the Vast Mainstream Conspiracy to make
the gold standard look antiquated?

Talking to San Fransiscans who are riding high on the real estate
credit bubble about trouble ahead is like talking to a flapper in
August 1929 about what her life will be reduced to in 1933.

Invoking the Great Depression of 1929 is like invoking the Black Plague of
1347. We've learned a little bit more about both pandemics and depressions
since these calamities. Keynes' General Theory is to depressions as germ
theory is to disease. Ever since the Great Depression, economists in America
have been indoctrinated to monitor and nurture aggregate demand, and to
never let it be starved out again like it was in the 1930's. For postings
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Even is this group,
economic campaceny is the prevailing sentiment. I can't tell you
how or when the party ends, but my bets are on worldwide
hyperinflation.

As long as the world has multiple major currencies that are not locked into
fixed exchange rates, the chances of simultaneous worldwide hyperinflation
are vanishingly small. The future to fear is Eurosclerosis, driven less by
the 20th century's scourge (leftist equalitarianism) and more by the 21st
century's scourge: neophobic eco-pessimism. See
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There is no conspiracy, it is all quite out in the open. Read on the
government web sites about hedonic adjustments, the process of
discounting inflation because of quality inmprovements in electronics.
You can't eat your computer or tv, but the adjustments discount the
price. Also note how categories such as food and energy are removed
from the core cpi. The core cpi may be a true view of inflation if you
do not eat or drive. Note also how items that are consumed less over
time are goven lower weightings. Prive goes up consuption goes down
weighting goes down. Those in political power have tremendous
incentives to over report employment and under report inflation.Is it
handwaving or conspiractorial thinking to observe that politicians
respond to incentives . This month the cpi is being reweighted again.
Other interesting weighting issues that have been used in the past ,
always to minimize inflation, is the weighting between new home prices
and rents. Or the weighting between new and used cars. The PPI also
was srewighted early this year. And now even the privately calculated
commodity price index is being reweightd. Jim puplava puts the picture
together nicely...http://tinyurl.com/dogg.

I didn't get the arbitage of tips v treasuries. The tips are based on
the reported cpi, and this are no indication of actual inflation. The
treasuries are not responding to inflation now because there are very
large buyers who are insensentive to inflation fears. The so called
zombie treasury investors are a symptomm that the finacial system ,
Bretton Woods Next is completely broken and doing irration things.The
largest component of the zombie treasury buyers are the Asian central
banks. Would they be buying treasuries to keep thier curencies weak vs
the dollar if we were still on a gold standard? Read more aboutr
zombie treasury buyers. It goes a long way to ecplain the housing
bubble too.Of course all this insanity can't last forever.
http://tinyurl.com/dbjbc

broken url from above to Finacial sence article on hedonic adjustment

http://tinyurl.com/doggf