Dearest Everyone;
In response to Richard Wingers notice of Bob Barr debating John Woo the end of January....
This would be a great time to reach out to other groups who have a problem with un-restricted torture rendition or torture in any case ( Abu Ghraib anyone) to meet and greet Professor John Woo of Boalt Hall at Hastings with massed demonstrators - drums beating - flags and banners flying - burning in effigy and other socially unacceptable acts of disobedience - like riots - tear gas and car burning - for the record - it isn't a serious demonstration or riot unless cars get torched - it makes great eye candy for the TV and newspapers front page photos...... 
Ron Getty
SF Libertarian