Dianne,
We need to find the "ring leaders" and I'm sure the libertarians would be on board for this.
A statewide ad hoc coalition of the TP, LP, Patriots, 9-12, etc would have clout.
After the innocent mans is released, his property is restored, and the perpetrators are punished we can resume fighting over our trivial differences.
I'll forward this to the LP list to see what comes up. Raeanne is familiar with the Eagle Forum so I forward to her also. And Heather knows a bunch of other Tea Partiers. Michelle is familiar with 9-12. Who else? We need a dozen to start with.
We need a committee chair to head up the operation and a spokesperson: maybe a politician looking for recognition. When we put this together, we can link-up with the Antelope Valley folks in a few days.
What better way is there to launch a new year?
John
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From: Brian Amble <brianamble@...>
To: "bayareapatriots2@yahoogroups.com" <bayareapatriots2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2013 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [BAP2] It happened in England. TRUE STORYLets find out! Good idea!!!
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From: John Bechtol <javlin@...>
To: "bayareapatriots2@yahoogroups.com" <bayareapatriots2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2013 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: [BAP2] It happened in England. TRUE STORYDianne,
Thanks.
You gave me an idea. I wonder who is an expert on the other Tea Party groups. There must be one in Antelope Valley/Lancaster.And somebody must already know the details. Maybe our best bet is to link-up the Tea Party groups and find a few people in each one who is interested. Is there a network of group contacts?
Maybe somebody at Tea Party Nation or 9-12 or ???
Maybe there is already a defense fund.
This wanton destruction of private property and heinous imprisonment of an innocent person, is no different than the acts of Parliament that sparked the organization of the colonies to nullify the abominable provisions.
John________________________________
From: Brian Amble <brianamble@...>
To: "bayareapatriots2@yahoogroups.com" <bayareapatriots2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2013 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: [BAP2] It happened in England. TRUE STORYMy cell number is 650-296-2169
And ANYONE can call me anytime!
Believe me, it takes first leaders (coaches) to put the play on the table
then assign everyone a position in the game.Just a few of us TPers organized two meetings to help people file against
the Cal Fire TAX and we got over 200 people to attend! Now those people
are more familiar with our TP and what we stand for. It does not mean they
will attend meetings but when someone speaks derogatorily of the TP they just may
say - hey, those are regular people trying to help us! And it also means the FTB is receiving
a whole lotta appeals!Bit by bit, we carry on and though one can get discouraged.... it just means you need to dust
yourself off, get up and get back
on the trail.
I KNOW
General Washington despaired many a time and he relied on prayer to get him
through those darkest times.
We should ALL PRAY TO NOT DESPAIR AND TO BE GUIDED IN WHAT IS
THE RIGHT COURSE TO TAKE, THE RIGHT ACTIONS TO TAKE.This kind of prayer is said before every meeting we have, right after the Pledge of Allegiance.
I pray on these things and I have this very powerful feeling, hard to describe, that
compels me to complete the events we are putting into action.Once things are set into motion, it is possible people will donate some money towards
this man's defense. The shame is it will not bring back his magnificent creation but
perhaps he will be uplifted by support and will build again somewhere. Either way, God has a plan
and his arrest may very well be apart of it. I always have believed that God chooses wisely
in selecting his warriors.Diane
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From: John Bechtol <javlin@...>
To: "bayareapatriots2@yahoogroups.com" <bayareapatriots2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [BAP2] It happened in England. TRUE STORYDianne,
OK. I did some work to contact his lawyer and began a conversation on this list about some of the possible approaches, but yours had been the only response. (maybe Nina too)
It takes more than two people to do something like this so I figured my time was better- spent hammering on the people on this list and the so-called conservative movement, to wake-up to their own lack of awareness and their own total lack of responsibility for outcomes. There is nothing more pathetic and disgusting than people pointing at the sky, talking about bad things while an innocent person sits in prison.
If this were the NFL, they would all be fired 50 times-over for 50 loosing seasons.
I heard 7 coaches were just fired for one loosing season.Find one year in the past fifty when liberty won? 1964 civil rights act? Roe V Wade?
That's the best report there is?Now we have the Patriot Acts and Agenda 21!!!!
FIRED!!!
With the stats as a guide, they look more like the enemy.
So...I'm sorry I dropped the ball and didn't call you about taking the next step. I suppose that makes me no better than the rest of the unfit heirs to liberty. Maybe we can pick up some support, somewhere else from people who care. Maybe I can recover some dignity from my own miserable failure to restore liberty, by at least, making another showing.
After all, it was my sacred duty to preserve our liberty when I accepted the commission from the American Legion in 1970. So far I have failed completely.
Plus I can't remember what I did with your number. Mine is 707-623-6005.
But once again, yours is the only response to solving a real-time, real problem, in-progress destruction of somebody's life. I hope that changes. It is a sad day when the ACLU cares more than the so-called patriots.
John
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From: Brian Amble <brianamble@...>
To: "bayareapatriots2@yahoogroups.com" <bayareapatriots2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [BAP2] It happened in England. TRUE STORYPerhaps, some do worse... but I am attempting to pass a county ordinance to stop such powers by counties and code enforcement.
I post these things that I believe are not only relevant but give us a window into the future should we not turn the tide back.
People were incredulous when I told them Code Enforcement now carries guns!
Must be those dangerous criminal extra bathrooms... could shoot back or something???
And yes HIS NATION let him rot... and YES we are not helping the LA man either... so let's do it.
My plate is full but I have a bit of room....
I told you I could get an atty but they at least want some $$$
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From: John Bechtol <javlin@...>
To: "bayareapatriots2@yahoogroups.com" <bayareapatriots2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: [BAP2] It happened in England. TRUE STORYAnd his nation let him rot in prison.
We are doing the same thing now, here with the man in Lancaster and a million others in prison throughout the US.Even worse, while our neighbor is being locked up here, we speak of someone across the ocean, locked up ten years ago. Not even the second amendment can save such flagrant irresponsibility.
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From: Brian Amble <brianamble@...>
To: "wethepeoplepets@yahoogroups.com" <wethepeoplepets@yahoogroups.com>; "CAPLA@yahoogroups.com" <CAPLA@yahoogroups.com>; "bayareapatriots2@yahoogroups.com" <bayareapatriots2@yahoogroups.com>; "NVPetLaw@yahoogroups.com" <NVPetLaw@yahoogroups.com>; "NVL@yahoogroups.com" <NVL@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 2:54 PM
Subject: [BAP2] It happened in England. TRUE STORYBe Vigilant - Protect our 2nd Amendment Rights!
You're sound asleep when you hear a thump outside your bedroom door\.Half-awake, and nearly paralyzed with fear, you hear muffled whispers.
At least two people have broken into your house and are moving your way.With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and pick up your shotgun.
You rack a shell into the chamber, then inch toward the door and open it.
In the darkness, you make out two shadows.
One holds something that looks like a crowbar.
When the intruder brandishes it as if to strike, you raise the shotgun and fire.
The blast knocks both thugs to the floor.
One writhes and screams while the second man crawls to the front door
and lurches outside.
As you pick up the telephone to call police, you know you're in trouble.
In your country, most guns were outlawed years
before, and the few that are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them useless..
Yours was never registered.
Police arrive and inform you
that the second burglar has died.
They arrest you for First Degree Murder
and Illegal Possession of a Firearm.
When you talk to your attorney, he tells
you not to worry: authorities will probably plea the case down to manslaughter.
"What kind of sentence will I get?" you ask.
"Only ten-to-twelve years,"
he replies, as if that's nothing.
"Behave yourself, and you'll be out in seven."
The next day, the shooting is the lead
story in the local newspaper.
Somehow, you're portrayed as an eccentric vigilante while the two men you shot are represented as choirboys.
Their friends and relatives can't find
an unkind word to say about them..
Buried deep down in the article, authorities acknowledge that both "victims" have been arrested numerous times.
But the next day's headline says it all:
"Lovable Rogue Son Didn't Deserve to Die."
The thieves have been transformed from career criminals into Robin Hood-type pranksters..
As the days wear on, the story takes wings.
The national media picks it up,
then the international media.
The surviving burglar
has become a
folk hero.
Your attorney says the thief is preparing
to sue you, and he'll probably win.
The media publishes reports that your home has been burglarized several times in the past and that you've been critical of local police for their lack
of effort in apprehending the suspects.
After the last break-in, you told your neighbor that you would be prepared next time.
The District Attorney uses this to allege
that you were lying in wait for the burglars.
A few months later, you go to trial.
The charges haven't been reduced,
as your lawyer had so confidently predicted.
When you take the stand, your anger at
the injustice of it all works against you..
Prosecutors paint a picture of you
as a mean, vengeful man.
It doesn't take long for the jury to convict you of all charges.
The judge sentences you to life in prison.
This case really happened.
On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk , England , killed one burglar and wounded a second.
In April, 2000, he was convicted
and is now serving a life term..
How did it become a crime to defend one's own life in the once great British Empire ?
It started with the Pistols Act of 1903.
This seemingly reasonable law forbade selling pistols to minors or felons and established that handgun sales were to be made only to those who had a license.
The Firearms
Act of 1920
expanded
licensing to
include not
only handguns
but all
firearms
except
shotguns..
Later laws passed in 1953 and 1967 outlawed the carrying of any weapon by private citizens and mandated the registration of all shotguns.
Momentum for
total handgun
confiscation
began in
earnest after
the Hungerford
mass shooting
in 1987. Michael Ryan, a mentally disturbed man with a Kalashnikov rifle, walked down the streets shooting everyone he saw.
When the
smoke cleared,
17 people
were dead.
The British
public,
already
de-sensitized
by eighty
years of "gun
control",
demanded even
tougher
restrictions.
(The seizure
of all
privately
owned handguns
was the
objective even
though Ryan
used a
rifle.)
Nine years
later, at
Dunblane ,
Scotland ,
Thomas
Hamilton used
a
semi-automatic
weapon to
murder 16
children and
a teacher at
a public
school.
For many
years, the
media had
portrayed all
gun owners as
mentally
unstable, or
worse,
criminals.
Now the press
had a real
kook with
which to beat
up
law-abiding
gun owners.
Day after day,
week after
week, the
media gave up
all pretense
of objectivity
and demanded
a total ban
on all
handguns.
The Dunblane
Inquiry, a
few
months later,
sealed the
fate of the
few sidearms
still owned by
private
citizens.
During the
years in which
the British
government
incrementally
took away
most gun
rights, the
notion that a
citizen had
the right to
armed
self-defense
came to be
seen as
vigilantism.
Authorities
refused to
grant gun
licenses to
people who
were
threatened, claiming that self-defense was no longer considered a reason to own a gun.
Citizens who
shot burglars
or robbers or
rapists were
charged while
the real
criminals
were
released.
Indeed, after
the Martin
shooting, a
police
spokesman was
quoted as
saying,
"We cannot
have people
take the law
into their
own hands."
All of
Martin's
neighbors
had been
robbed
numerous
times,
and several
elderly people
were severely
injured in
beatings by
young thugs
who had no
fear of the
consequences.
Martin
himself, a
collector of
antiques,
had seen most
of his
collection
trashed or
stolen by
burglars.
When the
Dunblane
Inquiry ended,
citizens who
owned
handguns
were given
three months
to turn them
over to local
authorities.
Being good
British
subjects,
most people
obeyed the
law.
The few who
didn't were
visited by
police
and
threatened
with ten-year
prison
sentences if
they didn't
comply.
Police later
bragged that
they'd taken
nearly
200,000
handguns from
private
citizens.
How did the
authorities
know who had
handguns?
The guns had
been
registered
and licensed.
Kind of like
cars. Sound
familiar?
WAKE UP
AMERICA ;THIS IS WHY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS PUT THE SECOND AMENDMENT IN OUR CONSTITUTION.
"...It does
not require a
majority to
prevail, but
rather an
irate,
tireless
minority keen
to set brush
fires in
people's
minds.."
--Samuel
Adams
If you think this is important,
please forward to everyone you know.
You had better wake up, because Obama is doing this very same thing, over here,
if he can get
it done.
And there are stupid people
in congress
and on the
street
that will go
right along
with him.
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