BAP - Post-Election Trek

Michael,Starchilds defective central theme says Johnson and the libertarians are victims of Clinton's and Bush's monopoly of the political theater.
Obviously, Trump created his own theater, as any other candidate would.

That's not what I was saying, John. I'm saying that the system itself has been rigged – Donald Trump was right about that. But he was wrong in thinking it rigged against him. In reality it is rigged against alternative parties and independent candidates. That's not because of Clinton and Bush; the domination of the 2-party cartel is systemic, and predates them.

  Thanks however to Richard Winger for pointing out that what I said about matching funds was incorrect – apparently neither Clinton nor Trump took federal funding this cycle.

  On the whole, very few people "rejected" Gary Johnson (i.e. voted for someone else because they didn't want him to become president). Millions rejected Trump and Clinton. His favorability ratings were good compared to theirs.

  Michael, they don't stop counting the votes once a clear winner is projected, but just as it is confidently predicted that the outstanding ballots cannot change the outcome of the election, so it is confidently predicted that they will not change the fact that Clinton got more votes. An Atlantic magazine article published two days ago explains:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/clintons-popular-vote-lead-will-grow-and-grow/507455/

Love & Liberty,
                               ((( starchild )))

Not to mention those legally unable to vote including dead people.

Mike

http://dennismichaellynch.com/report-3-million-votes-cast-illegals-presidential-election/

Trump created an effective theater because, as a successful business person, he knew what works. I agree that any other candidate could have done the same. No amount of trying to reinterpret the Constitution will help with that.

Marcy

Yep. As the article says, most of those dearly departed voted for Clinton.

Marcy

I wish he understood that what works in public policy in terms of producing the best outcomes for the most people is economic freedom and civil liberties. But his success in accumulating wealth under the present system and getting himself elected president under the present system notwithstanding, I've never gotten the sense that he has much of a clue about the importance of a free society.

  I disagree that any other candidate could have done the same. Trump was well-positioned in this year's field to take advantage of the media's willingness to shower attention on a "celebrity" candidate, and the willingness of many people to put their faith (however misplaced) in a billionaire celebrity known for hob-nobbing with the powerful, and whose chief interest has always seemed to be himself, who recast himself as an outsider and champion of the people.

Love & Liberty,
                               ((( starchild )))

Sorry I was not clear. I meant Trump knew what worked to get him elected. Yes, he was well known already, and that is what is needed. And the kind of well known that works!

Marcy

I'm not sure how many dead people these groups are claiming actually voted, Mike. The article doesn't say, and doesn't provide any details about their methodology. But this piece, which does go into more detail, casts doubts on such claims:

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/10/trumps-bogus-voter-fraud-claims/

  Personally I have no problem with undocumented people voting. Same for convicted felons voting in places where they are prohibited from doing so. The laws disenfranchising them are bad, discriminatory laws which deserve to be broken. No taxation without representation! But I've seen little evidence that undocumented migrants do vote in significant numbers.

Love & Liberty,
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