Starchild
First of all, start a voice communication network with me. No creative and nimble working group can function without it.
Meanwhile, I'm not putting down activism. I'm putting down institutionalized failure.
As for sidelines and semantics, I've neen an advocate for classical liberalism since 1964 , even if only in my own ways except for ending a war, the draft and taking California from the global socialist Republican Party of the era.
But then came the neo cons....that's another story.
John
I'm always interested in what practical action we can take to advance freedom at the local level, but I don't know what you mean by "start a voice communication network with me" and still don't understand what it is that you want to do in general.
"Voice communication network with me?" That would be a network including me, where we communicate with our voices.
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From: Starchild <sfdreamer@...>
To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] Activism & freedom
John,
I'm always interested in what practical action we can take to advance freedom at the local level, but I don't know what you mean by "start a voice communication network with me" and still don't understand what it is that you want to do in general\.
Love & Liberty,
((( starchild )))
Starchild
First of all, start a voice communication network with me. No creative and nimble working group can function without it.
Meanwhile, I'm not putting down activism. I'm putting down institutionalized failure.
As for sidelines and semantics, I've neen an advocate for classical liberalism since 1964 , even if only in my own ways except for ending a war, the draft and taking California from the global socialist Republican Party of the era.
But then came the neo cons....that's another story.
John
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>John,
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> Why are you speaking in the third person as if you are not part of the libertarians? It's too easy to put down activism from the sidelines. If you think you have a better idea, let's see the plan.
>
>Love & Liberty,
> ((( starchild )))
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>> It would change its business model to get the results it needed. Libertarian activism is the same as government. No matter how little results it gets it still believes it has value. In contrast to the libertarians themselves the activism has been worthless.
>> If the libertarians had ceased what they were doing we would still have the same police-state we got after forty years of their misguided efforts. And we could stop now with no appreciable change in trajectory. What would really happen? As it is, it served only as a place for the discontented to find a home among others of similar discontent and share their suffereing.
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>> On the other hand, if all the libertarians were stockholderrs in a corporation that delivered liberty as a dividend on their interest, corporate management that failed to deliver would be fired.
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>> On the current landscape, the worse job they do, the more they are supposedly needed. So naturally we have been loosing our liberty and "needing" them more than ever, while ignoring the fact that their product is shit.
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>> From: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: 2/16/2013 11:21 pm
>> To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] Response to Lysander Spooner on the Constitution
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>> John, What would private enterprise focused on liberty look like in your view, and how would it differ from libertarian activism in general? Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) On Feb 16, 2013, at 10:46 PM, javlin@ymail.com wrote: > Private enterprise has been mostly focused on a certain type of economic activity. It has not been focused on liberty. Napoleon spoke of this saying men will look after their interests before their liberty. > > < -- The message is truncated. -- > > > --- Sent with mail@metro, Real Life Real Time Mobile --- > > ---Original Message--- > From: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com > Sent: 2/16/2013 5:09 pm > To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] Response to Lysander Spooner on the Constitution > > Am I belaboring the obvious to point out that private enterprise is also one of the aforementioned forces that have failed to prevent the status quo? Love & Liberty, ((( starchild ))) On Feb 15, 2013, at 7:52 AM,