Just heard them talking on the radio (KALW, 91.7 FM) that 20% of American high school boys have been diagnosed with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) and 2/3rds of those so diagnosed have been prescribed drugs such as Ritalin.
At least the interviewer raised the obvious question -- are these diagnoses valid, or are boys exhibiting normal behavior simply being reclassified as having some kind of medical condition?
Love & Liberty,
((( starchild )))
Great question! What was the response?
Warm regards, Michael
Starchild,
Funny you would bring this up. I was just recently corresponding with Stephen Hinshaw, Chairman Dept. Psych. UC Berkeley about this very thing
The diagnosis is valid except that the educational system has the disorder not the kids. Outside of school, the symptoms disappear.
"The cause of the symptoms of ADHD in the schools, is the system of education".
Forcing the kids through the system without meds is like doing root canals without anesthetic. The system is inherently hostile to human learning modes.
We met in '96 when I was a coordinator/board member of Sonoma County
Chadd, a chapter of the national organization for people with ADHD.
Resuming my political activism, this condition is an inescapable dimension of its operational aspects. Not unlike the drug war, but even more so, there are boat-loads of science being ignored to favor the socialist education in this controversy and $billions at stake in the contest, for how children are educated.
He sent me the manuscript for a book he will publish soon. I can check, if you want to read it.
John
John,
I'm impressed you're in conversation with Hinshaw, he's well respected among psychologists.
Is he a small govt guy?
Warm regards, Michael
Unfortunately I think the question kind of got lost in the shuffle and wasn't directly addressed by the interviewee, at least not that I heard. It was a pretty short segment. But I count the fact that it got asked in the first place as a victory for our side.
Love & Liberty,
((( starchild )))
We never got into that. But, back then, before he became chairman, he was pretty adamant about the problem of public education, while working in a public institution. But as you well know, any healer is charged with making the best use of the conditions at hand. It's a tough choice to abandon your patients to pursue better conditions.
So I don't ask that of the healing professions. I think it is the job of business and leadership to work in league with them, to provide the better conditions towards the same ends. For the most part, this powerful alliance has been reversed by taking the money from the patients and driving the conditions according to the social enterprise, instead of the autonomy of the individual. The result is homogenized and ritualistic crap.
Does working with big-gov. make one a big-gov. guy? I think it plays out with the position on winnable contests. And whether a contest is winnable, depends on the strength of the alliances. And the choices of the contests define the ideological positions that the alliances will have.
So I'm not usually concerned with someones "ideology". I'm only concerned with which side of the contest he will take. I think Hinshaw will take the right side of the contest. Putting things in those terms is a powerful tool.
John
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From: Dr. Michael Edelstein <drmedelstein.threeminutetherapy@...>
To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] 20% of American high school age boys diagnosed with ADHD, 2/3rds of this group given drugsJohn,
I'm impressed you're in conversation with Hinshaw, he's well respected among psychologists.
Is he a small govt guy?
Warm regards, Michael
Starchild,
Funny you would bring this up. I was just recently corresponding with Stephen Hinshaw, Chairman Dept. Psych. UC Berkeley about this very thingThe diagnosis is valid except that the educational system has the disorder not the kids. Outside of school, the symptoms disappear.
"The cause of the symptoms of ADHD in the schools, is the system of education".
Forcing the kids through the system without meds is like doing root canals without anesthetic. The system is inherently hostile to human learning modes.
We met in '96 when I was a coordinator/board member of Sonoma County
Chadd, a chapter of the national organization for people with ADHD.
This might explain some of the ADHD issue.
Mike
Most of these problems go away in a libertarian community. They are only problems to be solved to perpetuate a coercive paradigm. The real solution is to cure the disease of socialism rather than to figure out how to live with its symptoms.
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From: "mike@dennyconnect.com" <mike@...>
To: "lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com" <lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 10:33 AM
Subject: RE: [lpsf-discuss] 20% of American high school age boys diagnosed with ADHD, 2/3rds of this group given drugsThis might explain some of the ADHD issue.
https://news.uga.edu/releases/article/why-girls-do-better-in-school-010212/
Mike
From:lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com [mailto:lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Bechtol
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 6:01 PM
To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] 20% of American high school age boys diagnosed with ADHD, 2/3rds of this group given drugsWe never got into that. But, back then, before he became chairman, he was pretty adamant about the problem of public education, while working in a public institution. But as you well know, any healer is charged with making the best use of the conditions at hand. It's a tough choice to abandon your patients to pursue better conditions.
So I don't ask that of the healing professions. I think it is the job of business and leadership to work in league with them, to provide the better conditions towards the same ends. For the most part, this powerful alliance has been reversed by taking the money
from the patients and driving the conditions according to the social enterprise, instead of the autonomy of the individual. The result is homogenized and ritualistic crap.
Does working with big-gov. make one a big-gov. guy? I think it plays out with the position on winnable contests. And whether a contest is winnable, depends on the strength of the alliances. And the choices of the contests define the ideological positions
that the alliances will have.
So I'm not usually concerned with someones "ideology". I'm only concerned with which side of the contest he will take. I think Hinshaw will take the right side of the contest. Putting things in those terms is a powerful tool.
John
________________________________
From:Dr. Michael Edelstein <drmedelstein.threeminutetherapy@...>
To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] 20% of American high school age boys diagnosed with ADHD, 2/3rds of this group given drugsJohn,
I'm impressed you're in conversation with Hinshaw, he's well respected among psychologists.
Is he a small govt guy?
Warm regards, Michael
Starchild,
Funny you would bring this up. I was just recently corresponding with Stephen Hinshaw, Chairman Dept. Psych. UC Berkeley about this very thingThe diagnosis is valid except that the educational system has the disorder not the kids. Outside of school, the symptoms disappear.
"The cause of the symptoms of ADHD in the schools, is the system of education".
Forcing the kids through the system without meds is like doing root canals without anesthetic. The system is inherently hostile to human learning modes.
We met in '96 when I was a coordinator/board member of Sonoma County Chadd, a chapter of the national organization for people with ADHD.
Resuming my political activism, this condition is an inescapable dimension of its operational aspects. Not unlike the drug war, but even more so, there are boat-loads of science being ignored to favor the socialist education in this controversy and $billions
at stake in the contest, for how children are educated.