Why Intellectual Property is the State's Latest Taser

Whiskey & Gunpowder -- The Daily Missive of
Laissez Faire Books

                          Gary Gibson, Minneapolis, Minnesota...

                          Normally on the weekends we turn the floor over to
letters from you bar patrons...But today
                          we thought you'd enjoy this exchange between us
and a friend on Google chat. It concerns the escalating Internet war between
the state and ...well, everybody else.

                          And of course, the peg upon which the state has
hung its case is intellectual property...copyrights, patents and all that
jazz...

                          Read on below...

                          me: How do you feel about the idea of copyright?

                          friend: It's difficult... because I'm a person who
makes things I understand that there should be protection against someone
stealing one of my illustrations and selling it and profiting off of it and
not giving anything back to me... BUT, I dunno it's a fine line... because
as Thomas Jefferson said:

                            "If nature has made any one thing less
susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the
thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess
as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces
itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess
himself of it. Its peculiar character, too, is that no one possesses the
less, because every other possesses the whole of it. He who receives an idea
from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who
lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. That ideas
should freely spread from one to another over the globe, for the moral and
mutual instruction of man, and improvement of his condition, seems to have
been peculiarly and benevolently designed by nature, when she made them,
like fire, expansible over all space, without lessening their density at any
point, and like the air in which we breathe, move, and have our physical
being, incapable of confinement or exclusive appropriation. Inventions then
cannot, in nature, be a subject of property."

                          me: That's what Jeffrey's been writing about.
Copyright -- especially with today's tech -- is artificially trying to make
a non-scarce good into a scarce one.

                          friend: I just read that hes an Auburn man... ha!
Thats awesome

                          me: Yes, he's my newest Best Friend Forever. Ideas
are infinitely reproducible. If I copy it, you still have it. It's not like
land, or clothes, or a car.

                          It's almost impossible not to break IP laws with
the Net. Your only real hope is not to paste anything or link to anything.

                          friend: But everything I know I stole from someone
else according to IP law. All culture, all progress comes from sharing and
remixing of ideas.

                          friend: But that doesn't mean that all
intellectual property is open for anyone to profit off of. My mentor was big
on one thing. There is taking and there is stealing. Stealing is ok [because
stealing acknowledges the idea is someone else's property]. Taking is not
[i.e. passing it off as your own].

                          [Ed note: One can plagiarize without violating
copyright and violate copyright without plagiarizing.]

                          me: But what is "Intellectual property"? You
profit from the initial bringing to market and from the marketing and
delivery of content. Imitators come along and make it better and cheaper.
That's progress. That's why things get cheaper over time, benefiting us all.
Imagine if all the great things at the start of industries were copyrighted.

                          friend: Forceps were. The idea was stolen and
redistributed.

                          me: Imagine if the tech that made clothes and
books easy to reproduce had been copyrighted. Can't really steal an idea.

                          That's our point. You can't lock ideas up and get
the state to back up prosecution of theft. This is being played out in
realtime now.

                          If you really don't want anyone to have your idea,
don't ever share it.

                          friend: well, my problem is that you all are only
looking at this philosophically, youre not people who make things... again,
stealing an idea and making it your own is totally cool... taking someone
elses work and presenting it as your own... is wrong and should have
repercussions.

                          me: Ah, but the same technology that makes it
possible to plagiarize makes it impossible to get away with it.

                          People are called out all the time. If you become
known as an unoriginal hack, you will lose market share.

                          If some unoriginal hack just reposted everything
Jeffrey wrote as his own work, how long before he was found out?

                          I daresay it would take a couple days at most.

                          friend: I wouldn't say impossible to get away with
it... I'd say with the amount of information available you're more likely to
be held accountable, but you also have to take into account the
misinformation factor and how quickly and easily misinformation spreads on
the Internet.

                          me: It's also corrected pretty quickly too.

                          friend: No way. Look at any music file sharing
site and you'll see that its just not true.

                          me: I don't go to those places. Explain.

                          friend: With so much information available (in
this case well use the billions of mp3s available as an ex) it's literally
impossible for all of the file names to be corrected...

                          You get one "Marvin Gay- Lets Stay Together" and
that one bit of misinformation will spread and never ever be corrected...
how many Youtube videos have you seen with the wrong artist attached to a
song? And Youtube is pretty heavily policed by its own users...

                          I guess what I'm saying is that the internet is
not perfect ... it is notorious for spreading misinformation and as we both
know... even when that info is corrected, only a small percentage of people
will "take" to that corrected info... aka every [expletive] child alive
thinking that Marvin Gay wrote "Lets stay together"!

                          me: Meh. Life is that way. Before the Internet
people were even more generally misinformed. People believe all kinds of
stupid myths. Cracked.com has made its entire existence about humorously
correcting things like this.

                          It's not a big enough deal to halt the sharing of
information. That's the stuff on which progress is built.

                          friend: and they're wrong half the time too

                          me: Ha ha. Especially when they contest economic
theories I champion. No one's perfect. We're not perfect now because of the
Internet. But that's the same argument people used against Wikipedia which
is right enough often enough and which keeps getting better.

                          friend: because its self policed

                          me: Hell, before the Internet, wrong [expletive]
would get into encyclopedias and stay there for decades.

                          I'm saying, don't sweat wrong attributions too
much. They will happen. The world is better off if we don't make it the
police state's job to correct them.

                          friend: I guess what I'm saying is that, I believe
copyright laws and Internet censorship should be treated as separate
beasts... not mutually exclusive but dealt with separately and probably on a
case by case basis, like the internet is just the medium

                          me: Ah, but the state is using "intellectual
property" as a backdoor to censorship. Like Jeffrey says, IP is just the
convenient taser. They understand that the Internet is a threat to their
legitimacy.

                          friend: It's not a threat to their legitimacy.
Their unwillingness to evolve and adapt is a threat to their legitimacy.

                          me: The spreading of anti-state ideas has taken
off thanks to the Net. What if the future is a stateless society?

                          How do you adapt to extinction? Not willingly I'd
imagine.

                          The crusty monopolists at the head of the
recording industries are the same kind of people who seek political power
and figure the world needs it and them. They aren't going to wither away
quietly and leave the rest of us alone.

                          friend: gary, sometimes talking to you is like
talking to a stoner grad student who's read too much Nietzsche

                          me: My philosophical stance is based on no
coercion. Ever. I believe in purely mutual exchange with no state
involvement. It's market anarchy or agorism. So I look at it from that
perspective. I think what's developing in the digital world now with
Creative Commons is the non-coerced, non-political way to handle this.

                          The answer is to let people figure it out for
themselves with each other, given what the technology makes inevitable.

                          friend: Yes, I like that actually.

                          And that's pretty much where we both left it, good
patrons. And now we go to this quote (that we hope falls under "fair use"
laws thanks to the legal magic of quotation marks and proper
attributions)...

                          From Sheldon Richman in his article "Patent
Nonsense":

                            "In practical terms, when one acquires a
copyright or a patent, what one really acquires is the power to ask the
government stop other people from doing harmless things with their own
property. IP is thus inconsistent with the right to property.

                            "An IP advocate might challenge the proposition
that two or more people can use the "same" idea at the same time by noting
that the originator's economic return from exploiting the idea will likely
be smaller if unauthorized imitators are free to enter the market. That is
true, but this confuses property with economic value. In traditional
property-rights theory, one owns objects not economic values. If someone's
otherwise unobjectionable activities lower the market value of my property,
my rights have not been violated.

                            "This objection exposes what is at stake in IP:
monopoly power granted by the state. In fact, patents originated as royal
grants of privilege, while copyright originated in the power to censor. This
in itself doesn't prove these practices clash with liberty, but their
pedigrees are indeed tainted.

                            "Property rights arose to grapple with natural
scarcity; ‘intellectual property' rights were invented to create scarcity
where it does not naturally exist."

                          And we finish on an ominous note. From the
Atlantic Wire concerning the attacks by Anonymous:

                            "...yesterday's events were both good and bad
news for those hoping Congress will keep its mitts off the Internet. First,
the shutdown inadvertently proved that the U.S. government already has all
the power it needs to take down its copyright villains, even those that
aren't based in the United States. No SOPA or PIPA required.

                            "Of course, no government is ever satisfied with
‘just enough' power, which is why opponents lashed out at the regime that
already exists. But rather than forcing Congress to back off, the shutdown
of government and corporate websites is likely to anger and re-energize
those anti-piracy zealots who think the web needs to be brought under
control. Instead of surrendering in fear or even taking a more measured
approach, they are more likely to double down on new legislation and harsher
penalties meant to corral those who thumb their nose at the government. That
in turn will lead Anonymous, LulzSec, or some other group (perhaps one with
even more nefarious intentions) to raise the stakes even higher, causing
more chaos and keeping the cycle going.

                            In other words, there can be no grand
compromise. In the end, we get neither air-tight copyright enforcement nor
an "anything goes" digital freedom, but instead see an escalation of
‘scorched-web' tactics and a never-ending war where more and more people
lose."

                          Oh my.

                          We surely have some "interesting times" ahead.
January 18 may turn out to be the Archiducke Ferdinand event we've been
expecting. And here we were looking at Iran!

                          The U.S. vaporized an American citizen in another
country. It's held people without charge for years at a time. It's codified
all this into law. But that codification is just the icing, not the cake.

                          The federal police have just raided homes on the
other side of the planet in order to arrest non-U.S. citizens in a foreign
country.

                          The kid gloves are off. And nowhere is out of
reach. If the state wants you, it will get you, no matter where you are.

                          That's why we're sticking it out here for now. We
figure the fight's gone global.

                          But we're not terribly worried. It will sort
itself out. Our bets are on liberty, the free markets and progress. The
state may do a great deal of harm as it senses its demise, but ultimately it
will lose. Lord, haste the day.

                          In the meantime, those who bet on progress now are
likely to come out the other side of this very well off. So make sure to
keep tuning into these pages as we ride this out...

                          ...But be sure to click here to make sure your
wealth is set to increase as the innovation curve goes vertical.

                          Regards,

                          Gary Gibson
                          Managing editor, Whiskey & Gunpowder
                          ggibsonagora@...

                          Copy Fights

Hi Michael,

Thanks for presenting that "missive." I liked most Jefferson's quote
about nature and the property of ideas.

Besides the government, i.e., politicians and bureaucrats, lawyers
greatly benefit from IP piracy laws and its associated litigation. To
wit: Aren't lawyers always involved in every IP lawsuit? Didn't lawyers
draft the odious SOPA law? Who do IP Lobbys, and every Lobby employ
most? Lawyers.

I think we can stipulate that lawyers are the bane of society. Though a
tiny number have some utility to society, most are parasites who
insidiously gnaw at and destroy the fabric of society. They cost society
hundreds of billions of dollars in mostly unneeded litigation,
especially when much of that litigation is to make work for one another.
And since many legislators at every level of government are lawyers
themselves, they write endless laws and regulations that cost society
additional hundreds of billions of dollars to comply with them.
Comically, most "compliance officers" hired by businesses to ensure
compliance with those laws and regulations, are lawyers. And don't
forget the untold misery, which might not have a price tag, they cause
to society.

On the subject of legislators being lawyers, it's been correctly argued
that since a lawyer is an "officer of the court," which means he/she is
a member of the judiciary branch. This in turn means he/she is a member
of both the judiciary and legislature, which is a conflict of the
separation of power doctrine enshrined in the Constitution. To remedy
this conflict, legislator-lawyers must leave the bar and surrender their
licenses to practice law. They could do this temporarily or permanently.

Barack and Michelle Obama both permanently surrendered their licenses to
practice law in Illinois. Barack, as the nominative President, might
have done this to remedy a similar conflict legislators face, but
Michelle faced no such conflict. Still, why would the Obamas do this
permanently? Wouldn't they want to maintain a handy source of income
should they need one?

Well, it's been asserted that should a lawyer in Illinois face charges
for a serious crime, the lawyer could avoid prosecution and court
appearances by merely surrendering his/her license to ever practice law
in Illinois. So did the Obamas commit a serious crime, and to avoid
prosecution, surrendered their licenses? The plot thickens, yet did
anyone in the mainstream mass media make any inquires?

In any case, as with any parasitic infection, it must be destroyed.
While we can't literally destroy parasitic lawyers, we can go a long way
by restricting their malignant effects on society by making the
government as small as possible! Blowing up several law schools would
help. But what we do about "correspondence school" lawyers?

To heck with it, let's kill the lawyers!

--- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, drmedelstein.threeminutetherapy@...
wrote:

                          Whiskey & Gunpowder -- The Daily Missive of
Laissez Faire Books

                          Gary Gibson, Minneapolis, Minnesota...

                          Normally on the weekends we turn the floor

over to

letters from you bar patrons...But today
                          we thought you'd enjoy this exchange between

us

and a friend on Google chat. It concerns the escalating Internet war

between

the state and ...well, everybody else.

                          And of course, the peg upon which the state

has

hung its case is intellectual property...copyrights, patents and all

that

jazz...

                          Read on below...

                          me: How do you feel about the idea of

copyright?

                          friend: It's difficult... because I'm a

person who

makes things I understand that there should be protection against

someone

stealing one of my illustrations and selling it and profiting off of

it and

not giving anything back to me... BUT, I dunno it's a fine line...

because

as Thomas Jefferson said:

                            "If nature has made any one thing less
susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of

the

thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively

possess

as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it

forces

itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot

dispossess

himself of it. Its peculiar character, too, is that no one possesses

the

less, because every other possesses the whole of it. He who receives

an idea

from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he

who

lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. That

ideas

should freely spread from one to another over the globe, for the moral

and

mutual instruction of man, and improvement of his condition, seems to

have

been peculiarly and benevolently designed by nature, when she made

them,

like fire, expansible over all space, without lessening their density

at any

point, and like the air in which we breathe, move, and have our

physical

being, incapable of confinement or exclusive appropriation. Inventions

then

cannot, in nature, be a subject of property."

                          me: That's what Jeffrey's been writing

about.

Copyright -- especially with today's tech -- is artificially trying to

make

a non-scarce good into a scarce one.

                          friend: I just read that hes an Auburn

man... ha!

Thats awesome

                          me: Yes, he's my newest Best Friend Forever.

Ideas

are infinitely reproducible. If I copy it, you still have it. It's not

like

land, or clothes, or a car.

                          It's almost impossible not to break IP laws

with

the Net. Your only real hope is not to paste anything or link to

anything.

                          friend: But everything I know I stole from

someone

else according to IP law. All culture, all progress comes from sharing

and

remixing of ideas.

                          friend: But that doesn't mean that all
intellectual property is open for anyone to profit off of. My mentor

was big

on one thing. There is taking and there is stealing. Stealing is ok

[because

stealing acknowledges the idea is someone else's property]. Taking is

not

[i.e. passing it off as your own].

                          [Ed note: One can plagiarize without

violating

copyright and violate copyright without plagiarizing.]

                          me: But what is "Intellectual property"? You
profit from the initial bringing to market and from the marketing and
delivery of content. Imitators come along and make it better and

cheaper.

That's progress. That's why things get cheaper over time, benefiting

us all.

Imagine if all the great things at the start of industries were

copyrighted.

                          friend: Forceps were. The idea was stolen

and

redistributed.

                          me: Imagine if the tech that made clothes

and

books easy to reproduce had been copyrighted. Can't really steal an

idea.

                          That's our point. You can't lock ideas up

and get

the state to back up prosecution of theft. This is being played out in
realtime now.

                          If you really don't want anyone to have your

idea,

don't ever share it.

                          friend: well, my problem is that you all are

only

looking at this philosophically, youre not people who make things...

again,

stealing an idea and making it your own is totally cool... taking

someone

elses work and presenting it as your own... is wrong and should have
repercussions.

                          me: Ah, but the same technology that makes

it

possible to plagiarize makes it impossible to get away with it.

                          People are called out all the time. If you

become

known as an unoriginal hack, you will lose market share.

                          If some unoriginal hack just reposted

everything

Jeffrey wrote as his own work, how long before he was found out?

                          I daresay it would take a couple days at

most.

                          friend: I wouldn't say impossible to get

away with

it... I'd say with the amount of information available you're more

likely to

be held accountable, but you also have to take into account the
misinformation factor and how quickly and easily misinformation

spreads on

the Internet.

                          me: It's also corrected pretty quickly too.

                          friend: No way. Look at any music file

sharing

site and you'll see that its just not true.

                          me: I don't go to those places. Explain.

                          friend: With so much information available

(in

this case well use the billions of mp3s available as an ex) it's

literally

impossible for all of the file names to be corrected...

                          You get one "Marvin Gay- Lets Stay Together"

and

that one bit of misinformation will spread and never ever be

corrected...

how many Youtube videos have you seen with the wrong artist attached

to a

song? And Youtube is pretty heavily policed by its own users...

                          I guess what I'm saying is that the internet

is

not perfect ... it is notorious for spreading misinformation and as we

both

know... even when that info is corrected, only a small percentage of

people

will "take" to that corrected info... aka every [expletive] child

alive

thinking that Marvin Gay wrote "Lets stay together"!

                          me: Meh. Life is that way. Before the

Internet

people were even more generally misinformed. People believe all kinds

of

stupid myths. Cracked.com has made its entire existence about

humorously

correcting things like this.

                          It's not a big enough deal to halt the

sharing of

information. That's the stuff on which progress is built.

                          friend: and they're wrong half the time too

                          me: Ha ha. Especially when they contest

economic

theories I champion. No one's perfect. We're not perfect now because

of the

Internet. But that's the same argument people used against Wikipedia

which

is right enough often enough and which keeps getting better.

                          friend: because its self policed

                          me: Hell, before the Internet, wrong

[expletive]

would get into encyclopedias and stay there for decades.

                          I'm saying, don't sweat wrong attributions

too

much. They will happen. The world is better off if we don't make it

the

police state's job to correct them.

                          friend: I guess what I'm saying is that, I

believe

copyright laws and Internet censorship should be treated as separate
beasts... not mutually exclusive but dealt with separately and

probably on a

case by case basis, like the internet is just the medium

                          me: Ah, but the state is using "intellectual
property" as a backdoor to censorship. Like Jeffrey says, IP is just

the

convenient taser. They understand that the Internet is a threat to

their

legitimacy.

                          friend: It's not a threat to their

legitimacy.

Their unwillingness to evolve and adapt is a threat to their

legitimacy.

                          me: The spreading of anti-state ideas has

taken

off thanks to the Net. What if the future is a stateless society?

                          How do you adapt to extinction? Not

willingly I'd

imagine.

                          The crusty monopolists at the head of the
recording industries are the same kind of people who seek political

power

and figure the world needs it and them. They aren't going to wither

away

quietly and leave the rest of us alone.

                          friend: gary, sometimes talking to you is

like

talking to a stoner grad student who's read too much Nietzsche

                          me: My philosophical stance is based on no
coercion. Ever. I believe in purely mutual exchange with no state
involvement. It's market anarchy or agorism. So I look at it from that
perspective. I think what's developing in the digital world now with
Creative Commons is the non-coerced, non-political way to handle this.

                          The answer is to let people figure it out

for

themselves with each other, given what the technology makes

inevitable.

                          friend: Yes, I like that actually.

                          And that's pretty much where we both left

it, good

patrons. And now we go to this quote (that we hope falls under "fair

use"

laws thanks to the legal magic of quotation marks and proper
attributions)...

                          From Sheldon Richman in his article "Patent
Nonsense":

                            "In practical terms, when one acquires a
copyright or a patent, what one really acquires is the power to ask

the

government stop other people from doing harmless things with their own
property. IP is thus inconsistent with the right to property.

                            "An IP advocate might challenge the

proposition

that two or more people can use the "same" idea at the same time by

noting

that the originator's economic return from exploiting the idea will

likely

be smaller if unauthorized imitators are free to enter the market.

That is

true, but this confuses property with economic value. In traditional
property-rights theory, one owns objects not economic values. If

someone's

otherwise unobjectionable activities lower the market value of my

property,

my rights have not been violated.

                            "This objection exposes what is at stake

in IP:

monopoly power granted by the state. In fact, patents originated as

royal

grants of privilege, while copyright originated in the power to

censor. This

in itself doesn't prove these practices clash with liberty, but their
pedigrees are indeed tainted.

                            "Property rights arose to grapple with

natural

scarcity; ‘intellectual property' rights were invented to

create scarcity

where it does not naturally exist."

                          And we finish on an ominous note. From the
Atlantic Wire concerning the attacks by Anonymous:

                            "...yesterday's events were both good and

bad

news for those hoping Congress will keep its mitts off the Internet.

First,

the shutdown inadvertently proved that the U.S. government already has

all

the power it needs to take down its copyright villains, even those

that

aren't based in the United States. No SOPA or PIPA required.

                            "Of course, no government is ever

satisfied with

‘just enough' power, which is why opponents lashed out at the

regime that

already exists. But rather than forcing Congress to back off, the

shutdown

of government and corporate websites is likely to anger and

re-energize

those anti-piracy zealots who think the web needs to be brought under
control. Instead of surrendering in fear or even taking a more

measured

approach, they are more likely to double down on new legislation and

harsher

penalties meant to corral those who thumb their nose at the

government. That

in turn will lead Anonymous, LulzSec, or some other group (perhaps one

with

even more nefarious intentions) to raise the stakes even higher,

causing

more chaos and keeping the cycle going.

                            In other words, there can be no grand
compromise. In the end, we get neither air-tight copyright enforcement

nor

an "anything goes" digital freedom, but instead see an escalation of
‘scorched-web' tactics and a never-ending war where more and

more people

lose."

                          Oh my.

                          We surely have some "interesting times"

ahead.

January 18 may turn out to be the Archiducke Ferdinand event we've

been

expecting. And here we were looking at Iran!

                          The U.S. vaporized an American citizen in

another

country. It's held people without charge for years at a time. It's

codified

all this into law. But that codification is just the icing, not the

cake.

                          The federal police have just raided homes on

the

other side of the planet in order to arrest non-U.S. citizens in a

foreign

country.

                          The kid gloves are off. And nowhere is out

of

reach. If the state wants you, it will get you, no matter where you

are.

                          That's why we're sticking it out here for

now. We

figure the fight's gone global.

                          But we're not terribly worried. It will sort
itself out. Our bets are on liberty, the free markets and progress.

The

state may do a great deal of harm as it senses its demise, but

ultimately it

will lose. Lord, haste the day.

                          In the meantime, those who bet on progress

now are

likely to come out the other side of this very well off. So make sure

to

keep tuning into these pages as we ride this out...

                          ...But be sure to click here to make sure

your

wealth is set to increase as the innovation curve goes vertical.

                          Regards,

                          Gary Gibson
                          Managing editor, Whiskey & Gunpowder
                          ggibsonagora@...

                          Copy Fights

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Horrors!!!! My beloved daughter is a lawyer, and she does good work!! Well, she does work folks want her to do. Lawyers do not just go to court for no reason. They go to court representing somebody who voluntarily wants the representation. Blaming the lawyers for mess is like blaming the politicians for mess -- people engage the lawyers and elect the politicians! Stop engaging lawyers, and they will go away. Stop demanding "services" from the politicians, and they will go away.

Regarding patents, my argument is always the same. Would you, personally, spend oodles of time and money in bringing something to market when you knew you had no chance to recoup your expenses because people will just help themselves to your invention?

Marcy

Hi Marcy,

Thank you for your reply, in which you said, partly:

<< Horrors!!!! My beloved daughter is a lawyer, and she does good work!!

Please rest assured. I'm certain your "beloved daughter" does "good
work." And I'm sure she's among the group of lawyers who I said
constitute "a tiny number [who] have some utility to society . . .."

And when you said:

<< Stop engaging lawyers, and they will go away. Stop demanding
"services" from the politicians, and they will go away. >>

You echoed my statement:

. . . we can go a long way by restricting their [lawyers] malignant
effects on society by making the
government as small as possible!

In any case, there are now hundreds of law schools in the U.S. with 200
fully accredited by the ABA. Of this latter number, ten (10) were
"founded" since 2000. (See:
List of law schools in the United States - Wikipedia)

These law schools turn out legions of lawyers each year who are mostly
dead wood to society and the economy. Colleges or "higher education"
also turn out legions of graduates who are mostly dead wood to society
and the economy. Such graduates include economists, sociologists,
political scientists, anthropologists, archeologists, "masters" of fine
arts, historians in such pressing fields such as feminism, racism,
nihilism, and of course, socialism and communism; and experts on various
tribal ethnic studies, environmental studies, urban studies, and
suburban studies. And who can dispute the important role colleges have
in turning out students who majored in "government administration"? This
list is not exhaustive. But I digress.

Despite all the courtroom dramas we see on TV and at the movies, most
lawyers never see the inside of a courtroom. And most of them never
directly deal with clients. Instead, most newly minted lawyers and even
those currently employed, work in law firms specializing in lobbying,
direct involvement within legislatures and government regulatory
compliance, These employees do research, "leg work," and tasks that
legal assistants can do at one tenth the cost lawyers charge. And
usually, all these extra costs are borne by we the beleaguered
taxpayers.

Professor C. Northcote Parkinson is famous for the eponymous law, which
said: "Work expands to the time allowed." The current lawyer class could
properly paraphrase this to: "Work expands to allow for the vast numbers
of lawyers newly graduated each year."

Isn't it time we blow up a few hundred law schools (and colleges, for
that matter) for society's benefit? And, to heck with, let's kill the
lawyers (except your daughter and other "useful" lawyers)!

As for your comments about patents:

<< Regarding patents, my argument is always the same. Would you,
personally, spend oodles of time and money in bringing something to
market when you knew you had no chance to recoup your expenses because
people will just help themselves to your invention? >>

Your plaintive question paints a dismal picture for inventors to bring
their inventions or creations to market. Your picture is certainly
discouraging and probably mostly correct since government cannot protect
your patents unless you have deep pockets to "enlist" the aid of White
Knight government patent officials to come to your aid. I specifically
think of Microsoft, Apple, Disney and the Ajax "White Knight" from old
TV ads. (Maybe not the Ajax "White Knight," since he probably has no
monopoly on "White Knight.")

Given this reality, many inventors of new products adapt the "all in
strategy," which goes like this: Finalize your product, market it to the
hilt, and get as much money as quickly as possible, else "pirates" and
"profiteers" will cannibalize your product and eat your profits. There
is no guarantee that you will recover all your R&D or marketing costs,
but hey, that's the risk you take against making huge "billionaire
overnight" profits.

Marcy, I'm afraid that's the reality of the "new capitalism" in this
current "global economy." (Did you have a product you want to market? If
so, maybe I could help you go "all in" with it and market it to death. I
only want 2% of profits. Hey, I work cheap.)

Thank you for your reply.

I hope my reply was satisfactory.

Alton

--- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "lpsfactivists" <amarcyb@...>
wrote:

Horrors!!!! My beloved daughter is a lawyer, and she does good work!!

Well, she does work folks want her to do. Lawyers do not just go to
court for no reason. They go to court representing somebody who
voluntarily wants the representation. Blaming the lawyers for mess is
like blaming the politicians for mess -- people engage the lawyers and
elect the politicians! Stop engaging lawyers, and they will go away.
Stop demanding "services" from the politicians, and they will go away.

Regarding patents, my argument is always the same. Would you,

personally, spend oodles of time and money in bringing something to
market when you knew you had no chance to recoup your expenses because
people will just help themselves to your invention?

Marcy

--- In lpsf-discuss@...m, "ay10038" ay10038@ wrote:
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> Thanks for presenting that "missive." I liked most Jefferson's quote
> about nature and the property of ideas.
>
> Besides the government, i.e., politicians and bureaucrats, lawyers
> greatly benefit from IP piracy laws and its associated litigation.

To

> wit: Aren't lawyers always involved in every IP lawsuit? Didn't

lawyers

> draft the odious SOPA law? Who do IP Lobbys, and every Lobby employ
> most? Lawyers.
>
> I think we can stipulate that lawyers are the bane of society.

Though a

> tiny number have some utility to society, most are parasites who
> insidiously gnaw at and destroy the fabric of society. They cost

society

> hundreds of billions of dollars in mostly unneeded litigation,
> especially when much of that litigation is to make work for one

another.

> And since many legislators at every level of government are lawyers
> themselves, they write endless laws and regulations that cost

society

> additional hundreds of billions of dollars to comply with them.
> Comically, most "compliance officers" hired by businesses to ensure
> compliance with those laws and regulations, are lawyers. And don't
> forget the untold misery, which might not have a price tag, they

cause

> to society.
>
> On the subject of legislators being lawyers, it's been correctly

argued

> that since a lawyer is an "officer of the court," which means he/she

is

> a member of the judiciary branch. This in turn means he/she is a

member

> of both the judiciary and legislature, which is a conflict of the
> separation of power doctrine enshrined in the Constitution. To

remedy

> this conflict, legislator-lawyers must leave the bar and surrender

their

> licenses to practice law. They could do this temporarily or

permanently.

>
> Barack and Michelle Obama both permanently surrendered their

licenses to

> practice law in Illinois. Barack, as the nominative President, might
> have done this to remedy a similar conflict legislators face, but
> Michelle faced no such conflict. Still, why would the Obamas do this
> permanently? Wouldn't they want to maintain a handy source of income
> should they need one?
>
> Well, it's been asserted that should a lawyer in Illinois face

charges

> for a serious crime, the lawyer could avoid prosecution and court
> appearances by merely surrendering his/her license to ever practice

law

> in Illinois. So did the Obamas commit a serious crime, and to avoid
> prosecution, surrendered their licenses? The plot thickens, yet did
> anyone in the mainstream mass media make any inquires?
>
> In any case, as with any parasitic infection, it must be destroyed.
> While we can't literally destroy parasitic lawyers, we can go a long

way

> by restricting their malignant effects on society by making the
> government as small as possible! Blowing up several law schools

would

> help. But what we do about "correspondence school" lawyers?
>
> To heck with it, let's kill the lawyers!
>
>
> --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com,

drmedelstein.threeminutetherapy@

> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Whiskey & Gunpowder -- The Daily Missive

of

> > Laissez Faire Books
> >
> > Gary Gibson, Minneapolis, Minnesota...
> >
> > Normally on the weekends we turn the

floor

> over to
> > letters from you bar patrons...But today
> > we thought you'd enjoy this exchange

between

> us
> > and a friend on Google chat. It concerns the escalating Internet

war

> between
> > the state and ...well, everybody else.
> >
> > And of course, the peg upon which the

state

> has
> > hung its case is intellectual property...copyrights, patents and

all

> that
> > jazz...
> >
> > Read on below...
> >
> > me: How do you feel about the idea of
> copyright?
> >
> > friend: It's difficult... because I'm a
> person who
> > makes things I understand that there should be protection against
> someone
> > stealing one of my illustrations and selling it and profiting off

of

> it and
> > not giving anything back to me... BUT, I dunno it's a fine line...
> because
> > as Thomas Jefferson said:
> >
> > "If nature has made any one thing less
> > susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the

action of

> the
> > thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively
> possess
> > as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged,

it

> forces
> > itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot
> dispossess
> > himself of it. Its peculiar character, too, is that no one

possesses

> the
> > less, because every other possesses the whole of it. He who

receives

> an idea
> > from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as

he

> who
> > lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.

That

> ideas
> > should freely spread from one to another over the globe, for the

moral

> and
> > mutual instruction of man, and improvement of his condition, seems

to

> have
> > been peculiarly and benevolently designed by nature, when she made
> them,
> > like fire, expansible over all space, without lessening their

density

> at any
> > point, and like the air in which we breathe, move, and have our
> physical
> > being, incapable of confinement or exclusive appropriation.

Inventions

> then
> > cannot, in nature, be a subject of property."
> >
> > me: That's what Jeffrey's been writing
> about.
> > Copyright -- especially with today's tech -- is artificially

trying to

> make
> > a non-scarce good into a scarce one.
> >
> > friend: I just read that hes an Auburn
> man... ha!
> > Thats awesome
> >
> > me: Yes, he's my newest Best Friend

Forever.

> Ideas
> > are infinitely reproducible. If I copy it, you still have it. It's

not

> like
> > land, or clothes, or a car.
> >
> > It's almost impossible not to break IP

laws

> with
> > the Net. Your only real hope is not to paste anything or link to
> anything.
> >
> > friend: But everything I know I stole

from

> someone
> > else according to IP law. All culture, all progress comes from

sharing

> and
> > remixing of ideas.
> >
> > friend: But that doesn't mean that all
> > intellectual property is open for anyone to profit off of. My

mentor

> was big
> > on one thing. There is taking and there is stealing. Stealing is

ok

> [because
> > stealing acknowledges the idea is someone else's property]. Taking

is

> not
> > [i.e. passing it off as your own].
> >
> > [Ed note: One can plagiarize without
> violating
> > copyright and violate copyright without plagiarizing.]
> >
> > me: But what is "Intellectual property"?

You

> > profit from the initial bringing to market and from the marketing

and

> > delivery of content. Imitators come along and make it better and
> cheaper.
> > That's progress. That's why things get cheaper over time,

benefiting

> us all.
> > Imagine if all the great things at the start of industries were
> copyrighted.
> >
> > friend: Forceps were. The idea was

stolen

> and
> > redistributed.
> >
> > me: Imagine if the tech that made

clothes

> and
> > books easy to reproduce had been copyrighted. Can't really steal

an

> idea.
> >
> > That's our point. You can't lock ideas

up

> and get
> > the state to back up prosecution of theft. This is being played

out in

> > realtime now.
> >
> > If you really don't want anyone to have

your

> idea,
> > don't ever share it.
> >
> > friend: well, my problem is that you all

are

> only
> > looking at this philosophically, youre not people who make

things...

> again,
> > stealing an idea and making it your own is totally cool... taking
> someone
> > elses work and presenting it as your own... is wrong and should

have

> > repercussions.
> >
> > me: Ah, but the same technology that

makes

> it
> > possible to plagiarize makes it impossible to get away with it.
> >
> > People are called out all the time. If

you

> become
> > known as an unoriginal hack, you will lose market share.
> >
> > If some unoriginal hack just reposted
> everything
> > Jeffrey wrote as his own work, how long before he was found out?
> >
> > I daresay it would take a couple days at
> most.
> >
> > friend: I wouldn't say impossible to get
> away with
> > it... I'd say with the amount of information available you're more
> likely to
> > be held accountable, but you also have to take into account the
> > misinformation factor and how quickly and easily misinformation
> spreads on
> > the Internet.
> >
> > me: It's also corrected pretty quickly

too.

> >
> > friend: No way. Look at any music file
> sharing
> > site and you'll see that its just not true.
> >
> > me: I don't go to those places. Explain.
> >
> > friend: With so much information

available

> (in
> > this case well use the billions of mp3s available as an ex) it's
> literally
> > impossible for all of the file names to be corrected...
> >
> > You get one "Marvin Gay- Lets Stay

Together"

> and
> > that one bit of misinformation will spread and never ever be
> corrected...
> > how many Youtube videos have you seen with the wrong artist

attached

> to a
> > song? And Youtube is pretty heavily policed by its own users...
> >
> > I guess what I'm saying is that the

internet

> is
> > not perfect ... it is notorious for spreading misinformation and

as we

> both
> > know... even when that info is corrected, only a small percentage

of

> people
> > will "take" to that corrected info... aka every [expletive] child
> alive
> > thinking that Marvin Gay wrote "Lets stay together"!
> >
> > me: Meh. Life is that way. Before the
> Internet
> > people were even more generally misinformed. People believe all

kinds

> of
> > stupid myths. Cracked.com has made its entire existence about
> humorously
> > correcting things like this.
> >
> > It's not a big enough deal to halt the
> sharing of
> > information. That's the stuff on which progress is built.
> >
> > friend: and they're wrong half the time

too

> >
> > me: Ha ha. Especially when they contest
> economic
> > theories I champion. No one's perfect. We're not perfect now

because

> of the
> > Internet. But that's the same argument people used against

Wikipedia

> which
> > is right enough often enough and which keeps getting better.
> >
> > friend: because its self policed
> >
> > me: Hell, before the Internet, wrong
> [expletive]
> > would get into encyclopedias and stay there for decades.
> >
> > I'm saying, don't sweat wrong

attributions

> too
> > much. They will happen. The world is better off if we don't make

it

> the
> > police state's job to correct them.
> >
> > friend: I guess what I'm saying is that,

I

> believe
> > copyright laws and Internet censorship should be treated as

separate

> > beasts... not mutually exclusive but dealt with separately and
> probably on a
> > case by case basis, like the internet is just the medium
> >
> > me: Ah, but the state is using

"intellectual

> > property" as a backdoor to censorship. Like Jeffrey says, IP is

just

> the
> > convenient taser. They understand that the Internet is a threat to
> their
> > legitimacy.
> >
> > friend: It's not a threat to their
> legitimacy.
> > Their unwillingness to evolve and adapt is a threat to their
> legitimacy.
> >
> > me: The spreading of anti-state ideas

has

> taken
> > off thanks to the Net. What if the future is a stateless society?
> >
> > How do you adapt to extinction? Not
> willingly I'd
> > imagine.
> >
> > The crusty monopolists at the head of

the

> > recording industries are the same kind of people who seek

political

> power
> > and figure the world needs it and them. They aren't going to

wither

> away
> > quietly and leave the rest of us alone.
> >
> > friend: gary, sometimes talking to you

is

> like
> > talking to a stoner grad student who's read too much Nietzsche
> >
> > me: My philosophical stance is based on

no

> > coercion. Ever. I believe in purely mutual exchange with no state
> > involvement. It's market anarchy or agorism. So I look at it from

that

> > perspective. I think what's developing in the digital world now

with

> > Creative Commons is the non-coerced, non-political way to handle

this.

> >
> > The answer is to let people figure it

out

> for
> > themselves with each other, given what the technology makes
> inevitable.
> >
> > friend: Yes, I like that actually.
> >
> > And that's pretty much where we both

left

> it, good
> > patrons. And now we go to this quote (that we hope falls under

"fair

> use"
> > laws thanks to the legal magic of quotation marks and proper
> > attributions)...
> >
> > From Sheldon Richman in his article

"Patent

> > Nonsense":
> >
> > "In practical terms, when one acquires

a

> > copyright or a patent, what one really acquires is the power to

ask

> the
> > government stop other people from doing harmless things with their

own

> > property. IP is thus inconsistent with the right to property.
> >
> > "An IP advocate might challenge the
> proposition
> > that two or more people can use the "same" idea at the same time

by

> noting
> > that the originator's economic return from exploiting the idea

will

> likely
> > be smaller if unauthorized imitators are free to enter the market.
> That is
> > true, but this confuses property with economic value. In

traditional

> > property-rights theory, one owns objects not economic values. If
> someone's
> > otherwise unobjectionable activities lower the market value of my
> property,
> > my rights have not been violated.
> >
> > "This objection exposes what is at

stake

> in IP:
> > monopoly power granted by the state. In fact, patents originated

as

> royal
> > grants of privilege, while copyright originated in the power to
> censor. This
> > in itself doesn't prove these practices clash with liberty, but

their

> > pedigrees are indeed tainted.
> >
> > "Property rights arose to grapple with
> natural
> > scarcity; ‘intellectual property' rights were invented to
> create scarcity
> > where it does not naturally exist."
> >
> > And we finish on an ominous note. From

the

> > Atlantic Wire concerning the attacks by Anonymous:
> >
> > "...yesterday's events were both good

and

> bad
> > news for those hoping Congress will keep its mitts off the

Internet.

> First,
> > the shutdown inadvertently proved that the U.S. government already

has

> all
> > the power it needs to take down its copyright villains, even those
> that
> > aren't based in the United States. No SOPA or PIPA required.
> >
> > "Of course, no government is ever
> satisfied with
> > ‘just enough' power, which is why opponents lashed out at

the

> regime that
> > already exists. But rather than forcing Congress to back off, the
> shutdown
> > of government and corporate websites is likely to anger and
> re-energize
> > those anti-piracy zealots who think the web needs to be brought

under

> > control. Instead of surrendering in fear or even taking a more
> measured
> > approach, they are more likely to double down on new legislation

and

> harsher
> > penalties meant to corral those who thumb their nose at the
> government. That
> > in turn will lead Anonymous, LulzSec, or some other group (perhaps

one

> with
> > even more nefarious intentions) to raise the stakes even higher,
> causing
> > more chaos and keeping the cycle going.
> >
> > In other words, there can be no grand
> > compromise. In the end, we get neither air-tight copyright

enforcement

> nor
> > an "anything goes" digital freedom, but instead see an escalation

of

> > ‘scorched-web' tactics and a never-ending war where more

and

> more people
> > lose."
> >
> > Oh my.
> >
> > We surely have some "interesting times"
> ahead.
> > January 18 may turn out to be the Archiducke Ferdinand event we've
> been
> > expecting. And here we were looking at Iran!
> >
> > The U.S. vaporized an American citizen

in

> another
> > country. It's held people without charge for years at a time. It's
> codified
> > all this into law. But that codification is just the icing, not

the

> cake.
> >
> > The federal police have just raided

homes on

> the
> > other side of the planet in order to arrest non-U.S. citizens in a
> foreign
> > country.
> >
> > The kid gloves are off. And nowhere is

out

> of
> > reach. If the state wants you, it will get you, no matter where

you

> are.
> >
> > That's why we're sticking it out here

for

> now. We
> > figure the fight's gone global.
> >
> > But we're not terribly worried. It will

sort

> > itself out. Our bets are on liberty, the free markets and

progress.

> The
> > state may do a great deal of harm as it senses its demise, but
> ultimately it
> > will lose. Lord, haste the day.
> >
> > In the meantime, those who bet on

progress

> now are
> > likely to come out the other side of this very well off. So make

sure

> to
> > keep tuning into these pages as we ride this out...
> >
> > ...But be sure to click here to make

sure

> your
> > wealth is set to increase as the innovation curve goes vertical.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Gary Gibson
> > Managing editor, Whiskey & Gunpowder
> > ggibsonagora@
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Copy Fights
> >
> >
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