Who and what is libertarian? How libertarian are they?

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1

Steve,

Question for you concerning national defense:
Since the chief violator of individual rights is the
state, how can the state defend its citizens against
itself?

Best, Michael

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Dear Dr. Mike;

Mike asked : Since the chief violator of individual rights is the
state, how can the state defend its citizens against
itself?

The State can not defend its citizens against itself. The citizen must defend themselves against the State.

Vive La Revolucionas!!! Fraternite!! Egalite!!! Liberte!!! Don't Tread On Me!!!

Let the Crooks of Congress eat the Pork Barrell Cake at the taxpayers expense. Let the Citizens eat the the Cake of Freedom from Taxes.

The State exists because the Citizen is willing to temporarily allow the State to exist. If the Citizen determines the State is no longer acting in the Citizens best interest in such Libertarian matters as common defnese of life and property then the Citizens is free to dissolve the State. And if so desired the Citizen and only the Citizen can re-form a State.

For more on this topic read some Lysander Spooner. He had some severe reservations with how the State was not acting in its Citizens best interest.

I say it's time to put a new Citizens initiative on the California ballot. I'd call it Proposition 1776. It would allow the Citizens of California to secede from the Union and establish the Golden Bear Nation of California. A free tax and a free trade Nation.

Screw Bush and the Morons of Congress. It's time we took back our country from those idiots who are not acting in our best interests. The bill to date for Iraq is at $150 Billion and California's share is $15 billion. The budget deficit is $500 Billion. Our share is $50 Billion.

Not one penny more for war not one penny more for taxes!!!!! Ring the bell and stop all taxes!!!!!

Ron Getty
SF Libertarian

"Dr. Michael R. Edelstein" <dredelstein@...> wrote:
Steve,

Question for you concerning national defense:
Since the chief violator of individual rights is the
state, how can the state defend its citizens against
itself?

Best, Michael