Dear Marcy;
Okie dokie - so where do we find an articulate presentable spokesperson(s) who don't/doesn't mind speaking in front of people (you mean you have to get up in front of strangers??) who is knowledgeable about Libertarianism and can present it in understandable doses and has the time? There lies the crux of the matter.... 
Ron Getty
SF Libertarian
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The prize won't be in gold? 
- Steve
Dear Derek, Ron, and All,
I agree with Ron that there is always the pesky question of "who"
each time we have an idea for a "what." But I do believe Derek's
idea of the essay contest is great.
Yes, promotion would be challenging, as Derek says. Sending
announcements to the schools (to the attention of the principal,
clubs, etc.) can work. I have just finished updating my Cabrillo
Civic Clubs Inc mailing list of San Francisco and San Mateo County
High Schools (that is how I spent most of my Thanksgiving Holiday) to
be ready to send out our yearly scholarship announcement. We get a
lot of responses to our announcements (and give out quite a few
scholarships, which are very modest in amount but appreciated by the
recipients). I would be happy to print labels from this list if the
LPSF decideds to mail announcements of the essay contest to the High
Schools.
Also, student and teachers have taken the initiative of placing the
Cabrillo name in several scholarship websites/lists. So, numerous
students e-mail us as a result of their research. Same could happen
to the LPSF prize.
Regards,
Marcy
--- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Derek Jensen" <derekj72@...>
wrote:
I have another similar idea to which I'd be willing to give money
and time.
- An LPSF scholarship (~$1,000) for high school seniors
attending any
high school in San Francisco
- The scholarship contest would be in the form of an essay. We
would
require the entrant to some well-known and thorough libertarian
essay (such
as by Friedman, Rothbard, etc.), and then write an essay on a
topic like
"How the ideas in this essay can be applied to increase liberty
in San
Francisco"
- The students could then mail or email in their essays, and we
could
have a small committee to judge them and award the prize.
- The winner could collect it in cash at a monthly LPSF meeting.One of the issues would be how to promote it. Sending emails or
letters to
schools would likely not be enough. Advertisements in one of the
local
newspapers might be too costly or not get enough attention. Press
releases
would likely be ignored. Maybe through the "guidance counselors"
of each
school whose responsibility it is to organize scholarships?
I'm willing to donate the first $100. If we get pledges totalling
$1,000,
then I volunteer to organize the effort.
-Derek
>
> Dear Marcy;
>
> Okie dokie - so where do we find an articulate presentable
spokesperson(s)
> who don't/doesn't mind speaking in front of people (you mean you
have to get
> up in front of strangers??) who is knowledgeable about
Libertarianism and
> can present it in understandable doses and has the time? There
lies the crux
> of the matter....
>
> Ron Getty
> SF Libertarian
>
> From: Amarcy D. Berry <amarcyb@...>
> To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 8:49:01 AM
> Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Re: thanksgiving lessons and Beyond
>
> Yes, Kelly Simpson did do a lot of work speaking before pol-sci
> classes, as I recall both in public and private schools. I
> accompanied her once and had a great time. Ron Getty's idea of
> reviving such a program, and perhaps incorporating the Say
Something
> Smart Prize, sounds like a good way to reach young people, most of
> whom probably never exposed to libertarian thought.
>
> Marcy
>
>
>
> >
> > Kelly Simpson is our Speaker's Bureau. She's done a terrific
job.
> >
> > Best, Michael
> >
> > >From: Ron Getty [mailto:tradergroupe@]
> > >Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 09:11 PM
> > >To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] Re: thanksgiving lessons and
Beyond
> > >
> > >Dear Dr. Mike and Wine Mike;
> > >
> > >How about a speakers bureau type of thing to go to poli-sci
> classes and speak about Libertarianism at public - private and
> parochial schools as a free service pro bono to provide a broad
based
> understanding of third party political parties.
> > >
> > >Or maybe a rotating group with Green Party and Repubs who in SF
> are all minority parties? Ala Phil Berg and Krissy Keefer and
Mike
> DeNunzio ala their Pelosi debate team...
> > >
> > >Ron Getty
> > >SF Libertarian
> > >
> > >From: "dredelstein@" <dredelstein@>
> > >To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com; lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> > >Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 5:44:07 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] Re: thanksgiving lessons and Beyond
> > >
> > >
> > >What I have in mind is simply emailing the announcement to
> libertarian groups of which there are many. I was not considering
> including the Big Govt schools.
> > >
> > >But let's hear what Mike D. thinks about all this since it's
his
> idea.
> > >
> > >Best, Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: Ron Getty [mailto:tradergroupe@]
> > >>Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 07:32 PM
> > >>To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> > >>Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] Re: thanksgiving lessons and
Beyond
> > >>
> > >>Dear Marcy;
> > >>
> > >>Good proposal - even if it is a little - cheeky - the
execution
> would be the problem.
> > >>
> > >>If it was sent to principals then the likelihood they would
have
> it passed out for teachers to look for bright Libertarian oriented
> students probably wouldn't work. If it was sent to administration
or
> superintendent for handouts to principals or teachers it would
> probably fall flat. Afterall those people depend on the largesse
of
> the government after the guvmint takes the money from taxpayers to
> spend on itself.
> > >>
> > >>If a way could be found to circumvent the bureaucracy and go
> straight to the teachers - who may respond - then we might get
> results.
> > >>
> > >>Hoping you having a nice Thanksgiving with family....
> > >>
> > >>Ron Getty
> > >>SF Libertarian
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>From: Amarcy D. Berry <amarcyb@>
> > >>To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
> > >>Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 12:35:44 PM
> > >>Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Re: thanksgiving lessons and Beyond
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>I would like to add my congratulations to Derek's daughter for
> her
> > >>courage and to Derek for his great work in raising her.
> > >>
> > >>My hope is that Derek's influence will continue into his kids'
> teen
> > >>years and beyond. Mass promotion of products and ideas, by
> private
> > >>industry and the government, is a most powerful negative
> influence on
> > >>children, and I found it difficult as a parent to overcome it.
> > >>Although, I keep trying to this day.
> > >>
> > >>Therefore, I would be in favor of a little mass promotion of
our
> own,
> > >>such as Mike D. and Michael E.'s ideas of an award for "Saying
> > >>Something Smart." This would be cheecky at best, but maybe
worth
> > >>consideration?: Mail an announcement of the prize to every
> > >>elementary school in the city, asking for submissions from
> students,
> > >>critique the responses (oportunity for libertarian promotion),
> and
> > >>award a prize when applicable.
> > >>
> > >>Marcy
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>--- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Christopher R. Maden"
> > >><crism@> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Derek Jensen wrote:
> > >>> > My daughter raised her hand and said "I don't really see
what
> > >>there is
> > >>> > to be thankful for. Mostly the government just steals our
> money
> > >>and
> > >>> > wastes it on itself."
> > >>>
> > >>> And now I know exactly what I'm thankful for this
Thanksgiving:
> > >>that Derek
> > >>> and other libertarians are raising their children right, and
> that
> > >>perhaps
> > >>> - perhaps - my pessimism about coming generations might be
> > >>unfounded.
> > >>>
> > >>> ~Chris
> > >>> --
> > >>> Christopher R. Maden, Principal Consultant, crism consulting
> > >>> XML-SGML-HTML-DTDs-schemas-XSL-DSSSL-conversion-training-
ebooks-
> B2B
> > >>> <URL: crism consulting >
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AFEC
How about 3 1/2 oz gold coins?
- Steve
I like this idea. I'd suggest extending it to any student blog post as the traditional essay is no longer the primary means of written communication of political ideas and a blog post can quickly reach millions of people while an essay sent to a small committee is likely to go no farther.
- Steve
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