Tear Down that Monument

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/07/thomas-dilorenzo/tear-down-that-monument/
Tear Down That Monument!

A “Progressive” Case for Demolishing the Lincoln Memorial
By Thomas DiLorenzoJuly 8, 2015 The totalitarian socialists among us who try to disguise their true beliefs by calling themselves “progressives” are currently in the middle of one of their periodic fits of hyper-PC hysteria. Upon learning that the mentally deranged, drugged-up little monster who murdered all those people in a Charleston church had his picture taken with a Confederate flag, the “progressives” commenced a new crusade to obliterate not only the Confederate flag from American memory, but also the memory of anyone in history whose views on race are not identical to theirs. They have even called for the demolition of the Jefferson Memorial; and the July 4 Daily Caller included an article about a Portland, Oregon teacher at Woodrow Wilson High School in that city who has started a campaign to rename the school. The Daily Caller refers to Wilson as “a model progressive Democrat,” which he was, but he was also a racist and a white supremacist.
However racist Woodrow Wilson, the old Princeton University political science professor, might have been, his public utterances on race were nothing compared to those of the real darling and “model” of “progressives” everywhere (and of neocons everywhere as well) – Abraham Lincoln. The following is a sampling of Lincoln’s racist and white supremacist beliefs (“CW” stands for Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln, followed by the volume and page numbers):
“Free them [black slaves] and make them politically and socially our equal? My own feelings will not admit of this . . . . We can not then make them equals.” (CW, 2, 256). “There is a natural disgust in the minds of nearly all white people, to the idea of an indiscriminate amalgamation of the white and black races.” (CW, 2, 405). “What I would most desire would be the separation of the white and black races.” (CW, 2, 521). “I have no purpose to introduce political and social equality between the white and black races . . . . I, as well as Judge [Stephen] Douglas, am in favor of the race to which I belong, having the superior position.” (CW, 2, 16).
“I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races . . . . I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people.” (CW, 3, 145-146). “I will to the very last stand by the law of this state [i.e., Illinois], which forbids the marrying of white people with Negroes.” (CW, 3, 146). “Senator Douglas remarked . . . that . . . this government was made for the white people and not for Negroes. Why, in point of fact, I think so too.” (CW, 2, 281).
As proven in the book, Colonization After Emancipation by Phillip Magness and Sebastian Page (University of Missouri Press), Lincoln plotted and schemed to deport all black people out of the country – so-called “colonization” – until his dying day. He even had his secretary of state, William Seward, hard at work figuring out how many ships it would take, and negotiating with foreign governments about land purchases where the former American black people could be dumped. “I have said that the separation of the races is the only perfect preventive of amalgamation,” he declared, and “such separation . . . must be affected by colonization.” (CW, 2, 409). “Let us be brought to believe it is morally right, and . . . favorable to . . . our interest, to transfer the African to his native clime [i.e., Africa], he said (CW, 2, 409). “The place I am thinking about having for a colony is in Central America. It is nearer to us than Liberia.” (CW, 5, 373-374).
Lincoln supported Southern slavery in his first inaugural address, promising to support its explicit enshrinement in the Constitution via the Corwin Amendment, which had just passed the House and Senate, thanks to the efforts of William Seward, working on Lincoln’s instruction. He opposed only the extension of slavery into the Territories, but only so that they could remain the domain of “free white people.” He very strongly supported the Fugitive Slave Act that compelled Northerners to round up runaway slaves and return them to their owners, and enforced it during his presidency. He championed the Illinois Black Codes, and supported the Illinois constitution’s prohibition of black people migrating into his state. He never defended a runaway slave in court, but he did defend a slave owner in court.
According to the book, Lincoln, by Harvard’s David Donald, the preeminent Lincoln scholar of the last generation (and contrary to Stephen Spielberg’s silly movie), Lincoln barely lifted a finger to help get the Thirteenth Amendment passed, even refusing to help the genuine abolitionists when they asked him for political assistance in procuring votes from the New Jersey delegation to Congress.
As Lerone Bennett, Jr., the longtime editor of Ebony magazine wrote in his book, Forced into Glory: Abraham Lincoln’s White Dream, Lincoln so habitually used the N-word that he sometimes befuddled and embarrassed members of Congress and others with his obsessive use of the racial slur. He was also a devoted fan of “minstrel shows” that portrayed black people as buffoons, wrote Bennett.
If today’s “progressives” want to begin tearing down what they believe to be monuments to America’s racist past, they should start with the Lincoln Memorial.

I'll second that.

Marcy

Instead of tearing it down, I propose simply replacing the statue of Abraham Lincoln with one of Frederick Douglass (voluntarily funded, of course), and adding a plaque explaining the reasons for the switch.

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Oh. Blessed are the peacemakers. But in reality one would still have to tear one thing down to replace it with the other. So new more peaceful proposal, inundate the progressives' email boxes with requests not to rewrite history.

Marcy

   Instead of tearing it down, I propose simply replacing the statue of Abraham Lincoln with one of Frederick Douglass (voluntarily funded, of course), and adding a plaque explaining the reasons for the switch.

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Marcy,

  I get the impression you aren't familiar with the Lincoln Memorial (see attached photo). Replacing the statue of Lincoln that sits in the middle of it with one of true abolitionist and former slave Frederick Douglass would hardly require tearing down the entire building. The interior features some carved inscriptions of words by and about Lincoln that would need to be replaced or covered over, but I think that's about it.

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Douglas thought well of Lincoln.

It seems the real conflict is not between Lincoln and Douglas, but between Douglas and the slave -state governments. Why not tear-down the South Carolina State House? Replace it with the Frederick Douglas Memorial.

Hi Starchild

Your impression is incorrect, and in your suggestion I think the styles would clash.

Marcy

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Marcy,

I get the impression you aren't familiar with the Lincoln Memorial (see attached photo). Replacing the statue of Lincoln that sits in the middle of it with one of true abolitionist and former slave Frederick Douglass would hardly require tearing down the entire building. The interior features some carved inscriptions of words by and about Lincoln that would need to be replaced or covered over, but I think that's about it.

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His Wikipedia entry suggests that Frederick Douglass's view of Lincoln was favorable, but not unreservedly so:

Douglass was disappointed that President Lincoln did not publicly endorse suffrage for black freedmen. Douglass believed that since African-American men were fighting for the Union in the American Civil War, they deserved the right to vote.[64]

With the North no longer obliged to return slaves to their owners in the South, Douglass fought for equality for his people. He made plans with Lincoln to move liberated slaves out of the South. During the war, Douglass also helped the Union by serving as a recruiter for the 54th Regiment Massachusetts Volunteer Infantry. His eldest son, Charles Douglass, joined the 54th Massachusetts Regiment, but was ill for much of his service.[25] Lewis Douglass fought at the Battle of Fort Wagner.[65] Another son, Frederick Douglass Jr., also served as a recruiter.

In his last autobiography, The Life & Times of Frederick Douglass, Douglass referred to Lincoln as America's "greatest President".[citation needed] Moreover, the post-war (1865) ratification of the 13th Amendment outlawed slavery. The14th Amendment provided for citizenship and equal protection under the law. The 15th Amendment protected all citizens from being discriminated against in voting because of race.[46]

On April 14, 1876, Douglass delivered the keynote speech at the unveiling of the Emancipation Memorial in Washington's Lincoln Park. In that speech, Douglass spoke frankly about Lincoln, noting what he perceived as both positive and negative attributes of the late President. Calling Lincoln "the white man's president", Douglass criticized Lincoln's tardiness in joining the cause of emancipation, noting that Lincoln initially opposed the expansion of slavery but did not support its elimination. But Douglass also asked, "Can any colored man, or any white man friendly to the freedom of all men, ever forget the night which followed the first day of January 1863, when the world was to see if Abraham Lincoln would prove to be as good as his word?"[66] Douglass also said: "Though Mr. Lincoln shared the prejudices of his white fellow-countrymen against the Negro, it is hardly necessary to say that in his heart of hearts he loathed and hated slavery...."

  More importantly, Douglass himself seems to have held fairly libertarian views, and of course was not guilty of Lincoln's crimes.

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"A man's rights rest in three boxes. The ballot box, jury box and the cartridge box. Let no man be kept from the ballot box because of his color. Let no woman be kept from the ballot box because of her sex."[73][74]
-Frederick Douglass in a speech delivered on November 15, 1867

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Which styles, Marcy?

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Not sure. Just does not feel right.

Marcy

   Which styles, Marcy?

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