State Assembly race

Richard,

  You make a good point. Fiona Ma has always seemed pretty cool. Then
again, she is an establishment politician. Maybe I'll try to call and
get a feel for where she stands on the issue. I see a few likely
outcomes of such an effort:

(1) She doesn't give an answer before July 31, after being given a
reasonable opportunity to respond
(2) She makes vaguely supportive comments in favor of open debates
without saying anything specific
(3) She disagrees that alternative candidates should automatically be
invited to all debates
(4) She says she favors alternative candidates being invited to every
debate but doesn't promise to skip debates which exclude them
(5) She not only agrees with open debates but promises to skip debates
that aren't open

  For each of the above possible outcomes, how do you think we ought to
proceed? Barry? Anyone else?

Yours in liberty,
        <<< Starchild >>>

It seems to me that Fiona Ma is the type of person who
would willing let Libertarians and Greens be in any
general election debates with her anyway. It would be
silly to stand in front of her residence handing out
flyers before we ascertain what her attitude is.
Since San Francisco is so overwhelmingly Democratic, I
would expect any Democratic nominee who seems as nice
as she seems to be (to me, anyway) would be happy to
have a 4-candidate general election debate. Doing
that just plays well in a place like San Francisco.
Of course if it was someone with Carole Migden's
personality, that would be a different matter.

Barry,

  I don't know who will be running on the Libertarian
ticket, but I have
every expectation that we will field a candidate.
According to a recent
email she sent out (see below), Fiona Ma is having a
party for
supporters at her house on July 31. I think this
presents a good
opportunity for Libertarian-Green cooperation. My
idea is that we would
jointly come up with some "Play Fair!" signs and
fliers urging the
Democrat and Republican candidates to commit to
including Libs, Greens
& other alternative party candidates in any debates
and to refuse to
participate in debates that exclude qualified
candidates, and stand
outside Fiona's house handing them out as people
arrive. Interested?

For liberty,
      <<< Starchild >>>
Outreach Director, Libertarian Party of San
Francisco

Just so you know, Leland Yee is running for the

State Senate because

Jackie Speier is termed out and is running for a

statewide office.

Fiona Ma and Janet Reilly are the Democratic

candidates. In case you

are not familiar with Janet, she is the wife of

Clint Reilly, a very

wealthy businessman and former candidate for

mayor. There are some

progressives in town who are lining up behind

Janet because they don't

like Fiona. Clint has helped a number of

"important" people get

elected and he will no doubt call in a few markers

(the kickoff for

Janet featured John Kerry). The Democratic

primary election next June

promises to be a bloody affair - with millions of

dollars spent to

win. As to what issues will be discussed, I doubt

there will be much

of substance. I will, of course, be running

representing the Green

Party.

Barry

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Starchild:
Do you really think these far-left types (the Greens and other so-called
"progressives") can be trusted? I happen to think they can't. This would
argue in favor of not cooperating with them in any way.
-Derek

Derek,

  "Trusted" is a very vague word; I'm not sure how to respond to that. If the question is, do I think there are areas in which our interests coincide and where it would benefit the Libertarian Party and the libertarian movement to work with them, my answer is yes.

  I do not like to use the word "progressive" to refer to people on the left, however. That makes them sound like they are forward-looking, or in favor of progress. "Leftists" is my usual term of choice, or "state socialists" for the really hardcore Marxist types.

Yours in liberty,
        <<< Starchild >>>

Starchild:

Do you really think these far-left types (the Greens and other so-called "progressives") can be trusted? I happen to think they can't. This would argue in favor of not cooperating with them in any way.

-Derek

Richard,

  You make a good point\. Fiona Ma has always seemed pretty cool\. Then

again, she is an establishment politician. Maybe I'll try to call and
get a feel for where she stands on the issue. I see a few likely
outcomes of such an effort:

(1) She doesn't give an answer before July 31, after being given a
reasonable opportunity to respond
(2) She makes vaguely supportive comments in favor of open debates
without saying anything specific
(3) She disagrees that alternative candidates should automatically be
invited to all debates
(4) She says she favors alternative candidates being invited to every
debate but doesn't promise to skip debates which exclude them
(5) She not only agrees with open debates but promises to skip debates
that aren't open

  For each of the above possible outcomes, how do you think we ought to

proceed? Barry? Anyone else?

Yours in liberty,
<<< Starchild >>>

> It seems to me that Fiona Ma is the type of person who
> would willing let Libertarians and Greens be in any
> general election debates with her anyway. It would be
> silly to stand in front of her residence handing out
> flyers before we ascertain what her attitude is.
> Since San Francisco is so overwhelmingly Democratic, I
> would expect any Democratic nominee who seems as nice
> as she seems to be (to me, anyway) would be happy to
> have a 4-candidate general election debate. Doing
> that just plays well in a place like San Francisco.
> Of course if it was someone with Carole Migden's
> personality, that would be a different matter.
>
>> Barry,
>>
>> I don't know who will be running on the Libertarian
>> ticket, but I have
>> every expectation that we will field a candidate.
>> According to a recent
>> email she sent out (see below), Fiona Ma is having a
>> party for
>> supporters at her house on July 31. I think this
>> presents a good
>> opportunity for Libertarian-Green cooperation. My
>> idea is that we would
>> jointly come up with some "Play Fair!" signs and
>> fliers urging the
>> Democrat and Republican candidates to commit to
>> including Libs, Greens
>> & other alternative party candidates in any debates
>> and to refuse to
>> participate in debates that exclude qualified
>> candidates, and stand
>> outside Fiona's house handing them out as people
>> arrive. Interested?
>>
>> For liberty,
>> <<< Starchild >>>
>> Outreach Director, Libertarian Party of San
>> Francisco
>>
>>> Just so you know, Leland Yee is running for the
>> State Senate because
>>> Jackie Speier is termed out and is running for a
>> statewide office.
>>> Fiona Ma and Janet Reilly are the Democratic
>> candidates. In case you
>>> are not familiar with Janet, she is the wife of
>> Clint Reilly, a very
>>> wealthy businessman and former candidate for
>> mayor. There are some
>>> progressives in town who are lining up behind
>> Janet because they don't
>>> like Fiona. Clint has helped a number of
>> "important" people get
>>> elected and he will no doubt call in a few markers
>> (the kickoff for
>>> Janet featured John Kerry). The Democratic
>> primary election next June
>>> promises to be a bloody affair - with millions of
>> dollars spent to
>>> win. As to what issues will be discussed, I doubt
>> there will be much
>>> of substance. I will, of course, be running
>> representing the Green
>>> Party.
>>>
>>> Barry
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>
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