Private employers do not have the right to test anybody. And the
government has ways of putting pressure on them to do so.
Not sure if that was a rebuke or not
but private employers test themselves, or contract the testing to a
third
party
the government has nothing to do with it.....
other than annoying the hell out of you about ever arbitrary deal
of your
business
> Although I currently do not have employees, I do from time to
time
> engage independent contractors to help me out when the work is
more
> than I can handle by myself. I do not expect the government to
screen
> these folks for me. I can tell all by myself whether they are non
> compos mentis due to drugs or any other reason.
>
> Marcy
>
> --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com <lpsf-discuss%
40yahoogroups.com>,
> Glenn Rapp <runnz63@> wrote:
> >
> > Eric,
> >
> > Obviously you have never owned a business. Never had people on
the
> > payroll..........perhaps exposed to the
liability/litigation/expense
> of a
> > workplace accident due to impairment.........not to mention the
> productivity
> > issues etc.
> >
> > I agree that drugs should be legalized...........and I would
even employ
> > someone who smoked a little weed.....
> >
> > but since its my money I'm spending, I reserve the right to give
> myself a
> > reasonable assurance that my employee's aren't stoned the
workplace.
> >
> > that is the flipside of a free society bub
> >
> >
> > > Many people don't realize that Corporate America has been,
> since the
> > > late 1980s, major promotors of the War on Drugs. I think
Kellogg's
> > > was one of the first to start 'mandatory' drug-testing.
> > >
> > > Mandatory drug testing of any kind is illegal.
> > >
> > > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com <lpsf-discuss%
40yahoogroups.com><lpsf-discuss%
> 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > defliberty@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Starchild,
> > > >
> > > > Your letter to Kellogg is excellent!
> > > >
> > > > All the best,
> > > >
> > > > Don
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Starchild <sfdreamer@>
> > > > To: robert.woodall@
> > > > Cc: SFBay Cannabis Community List
> > > >
> <SFBayCannabisCommunity@yahoogroups.com<SFBayCannabisCommunity%
40yahoogroups.com>
> <SFBayCannabisCommunity%40yahoogroups.com>>;
> > > CALibs@yahoogroups.com <CALibs%40yahoogroups.com> <CALibs%
> 40yahoogroups.com>;
> > > LPSF
> > > > Discussion List
> <lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com <lpsf-discuss%40yahoogroups.com>
> <lpsf-discuss%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >
> > > > Sent: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 5:54 pm
> > > > Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Re: [SFBayCannabisCommunity]
Kellogg's
> > > company
> > > > terminates athlete's contract due to marijuana use
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Robert,
> > > >
> > > > I regret to learn that your company considers Michael
Phelps'
> > > > marijuana use to be a "transgression" such that you have
decided not
> > > > to renew this talented young athlete's contract. Coming in
a context
> > > > where governments are still criminalizing people for
choices about
> > > > what to put into their own bodies, this action effectively
lends
> > > > Kellogg's moral support to an immoral "War on Drugs" that
is costing
> > > > billions of dollars a year in taxpayer money and millions of
> > > > individual lives and families are destroyed. I certainly do
not wish
> > > > to give my support to a company that is going to take such
a stand,
> > > > so unless I learn of subsequent actions that convince me
that
> > > > Kellogg's has more respect for my consensual choices and
those of
> > > > others, I am going to do my best not to buy Kellogg's
products and
> > > > encourage others know not to buy them either.
> > > >
> > > > Meanwhile, I encourage you to check out this list of some
of the
> > > > notable people who've smoked marijuana -- people like Bill
Gates,
> > > > Q
> > > > ueen Victoria, Morgan Freeman, John F. Kennedy, Jack
London, Daryl
> > > > Hannah, etc. -- and ask yourself whether either they, or
society,
> > > > would have been better off had they been stigmatized for
their drug
> > > > use and denied the opportunity to exercise their talents:
http://
> > > > www.veryimportantpotheads.com:80/main2.htm
> > > >
> > > > I even more strongly encourage you to read this article on
the
> > > > effects of Drug Prohibition, and ask yourself whether you
think it
> > > is
> > > > working, or whether, like alcohol Prohibition (1919-1933,
RIP) it is
> > > > a colossal failure and deserves to be relegated to the ash
heap of
> > > > history: http://www.reason.com/news/show/131131.html.
> > > >
> > > > I hope that during the time it takes you and your
colleagues to get
> > > > your heads on straight, Kelloggs will not become a victim
of its own
> > > > hypocrisy by encouraging such an anti-freedom climate that
the
> > > > company's own freedom to engage in drug-pushing by
marketing the
> > > > harmful drug of sugar to children via sugary cereals like
Frosted
> > > > Flakes is threatened by law. People have the right to
smoke, eat,
> > > and
> > > > inject what they want, even if it causes cavities and
diabetes.
> > > >
> > > > Love & Liberty,
> > > > ((( starchild )))
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Because of his âtransgressionsâ, Kelloggs cereal has
> > > announced it
> > > > > will NOT renew Michael Phelps contract.
> > > > >
> > > > > So if you care about this issue email the VP of marketing
and tell
> > > > > him that you will NOT be buying their products anymore
because of
> > > > > their position.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Email
> > > > > robert.woodall@ and let him know how you feel!
> > > > >
> > > > > TAKE A STAND! Tell everyone you know, we can make a
difference.