Remove Joshua Smith from the LNC

This was shared to an FSP FB group, on a thread discussing Jeremy Kauffman’s recent tweets.

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It was pointed out that Joshua Smith claimed in defense to be half Israeli, but misspells “Israel” every time…

Of course, defending a neo-Nazi’s right to free speech is fine. But, I’m starting to see the pattern that Richard was concerned about - that some people in the national party are quite enthusiastic about offering a safe harbor to hateful bigots - and they have a large and growing following.

Thoughts?

Jeff,

You would like the live and let live movement, see liveandletlive.org. In addition to the NAP, it includes aspirational values which would bar neo-nazis.

Michael

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On Aug 20, 2021, at 10:38 AM, jeff via LPSF Forum noreply@forum.lpsf.org wrote:

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August 20
This was shared to an FSP FB group, on a thread discussing Jeremy Kauffman’s recent tweets.

Remove Joshua Smith from the LNC https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vT174p7wVNK0LEOmyBW_HIT7A3hEVIwvqD77cCmp8OZxq3e0BMO7_yDNHbYGYSJH6R-V7LSJtk3dmS0/pub
It was pointed out that Joshua Smith claimed in defense to be half Israeli, but misspells “Israel” every time…

Of course, defending a neo-Nazi’s right to free speech is fine. But, I’m starting to see the pattern that Richard was concerned about - that some people in the national party are quite enthusiastic about offering a safe harbor to hateful bigots - and they have a large and growing following.

Thoughts?

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I actually think the NAP is sufficient. Society can coexist with neo-Nazis, as long as they never use violence. Using force to censor anti-Semitic speech is worse than the hateful speech itself. And neo-Nazis can create their own little isolated, homogenous, hateful communities.

However, I don’t want the Libertarian Party to become that community!!

But I agree, I’m sure I would like the Live and Let Live movement!

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On Aug 20, 2021, at 1:48 PM, Michael Edelstein via LPSF Forum noreply@forum.lpsf.org wrote:

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Jeff,

You would like the live and let live movement, see liveandletlive.org. In addition to the NAP, it includes aspirational values which would bar neo-nazis.

Michael

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I imagine there are other people who are concerned with outreach by, e.g., Outright Libertarians, because they don’t want the LP to become a gay club.

As long as members of the LP remain libertarians, then I think it’s all good, and the existing LP pledge seems like a good way to ensure that.

Hi Jeff. I’d love to chat with you about our global peace movement. Please let me know if you are interested.

Peace.

Marc

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Jeff,

You would like the live and let live movement, see liveandletlive.orghttp://liveandletlive.org. In addition to the NAP, it includes aspirational values which would bar neo-nazis.

Michael

Michael R. Edelstein, Ph.D.
Clinical Psychologist
415-673-2848 (24/7)

Co-author of Three Minute Therapyhttp://www.threeminutetherapy.com/
with David Ramsay Steele, Ph.D.
Features help for anxiety, depression,
relationships, panic attacks, addiction

On Aug 20, 2021, at 10:38 AM, jeff via LPSF Forum <noreply@forum.lpsf.orgmailto:noreply@forum.lpsf.org> wrote:

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August 20

This was shared to an FSP FB group, on a thread discussing Jeremy Kauffman’s recent tweets.

https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vT174p7wVNK0LEOmyBW_HIT7A3hEVIwvqD77cCmp8OZxq3e0BMO7_yDNHbYGYSJH6R-V7LSJtk3dmS0/pub

It was pointed out that Joshua Smith claimed in defense to be half Israeli, but misspells “Israel” every time…

Of course, defending a neo-Nazi’s right to free speech is fine. But, I’m starting to see the pattern that Richard was concerned about - that some people in the national party are quite enthusiastic about offering a safe harbor to hateful bigots - and they have a large and growing following.

Thoughts?


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Hi Jeff. Great! Let me know if you want to get more involved!

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Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 1:07 PM
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Subject: Re: Remove Joshua Smith from the LNC

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