Marcy,
I am very confused. All this time you've been saying that you don't any "resolutions," only measures with teeth. But now you're excited about circulating a petition which won't even result in putting a measure on the ballot?
A resolution that will be voted on by the electorate will...
(a) be a lot more newsworthy
(b) be more apt to be taken seriously by the politicians
(c) be seen by a lot more people, and
(d) do more to put the LPSF on the map and make our actions part of the public record
...than a petition that won't.
My suggestion is we stick with the plan to put a measure on the ballot (and hopefully get it passed). Write it to make it as binding as we legally can, and go with that. If it turns out that we really can't say *anything* about police priorities that will be legally binding (something I find difficult to believe but will try to do some more research on), then let's go with our second priority initiative.
Yours in liberty,
<<< starchild >>>
Dear All,
Ron has a great list with which to start our Police Redeployment
plans. I am hoping that after our campaing Pam from KPOO will no
longer be asking if Libertarianism is "part of that whole socialist
thing" (see Derek's post on Discussion Group). The campaing could be
an effective vehicle to positively introduce ourselves, and make
mention of our political candidates, as well as a chance to
contribute to the efforts of cutting down violent crime in San
Francisco.I would be pleased to assist in this campaign once we get around to
formulating some concrete plan of action.Marcy
--- In lpsf-activists@yahoogroups.com, Ron Getty <tradergroupe@...>
wrote:
>
> Dear Marcy and Everyone Else : -- )
>
> To answer your question this is some of what could take place to
garner seventy eleven hundreds of dozens of thousands of Police
Redeployment Petition signatures:
>
> 1. Contact the respective Chairs: Democratic - Republican - Green
parties and present a copy of the authorized version of the
Redeployment Petition.
>
> 2. With the approval of the respective party chairs get on the
meeting agenda of the next available County Party meeting.
>
> 3. Get the Redeployment Petition approved by County Party
membership. Get signatures at the meeting. Get volunteer Petition
circulators.
>
> Due to the fact voter registration is not required just residency
in San Francisco this opens the Petiton to all San Franciscans and
any San Franciscan to circulate a Petition.
>
> 4. Get a definitive list of all Community Organizations and do
the same as above.
>
> 5. Get a definitive list of all Local Political Party
Organizations and do all of the above.
>
> 6. Get a definitive list of Community Cultural Organizations and
do the same as above.
>
> 7. Get a definitive list of all local Religious Organizations and
do the same as above.
>
> 8. Get a definitive list of all local Business Organizations and
do the same as above.
>
> 9. Get a definitive list of all local Community Events and do
tables
>
> 10. Take ads out in newspapers with copy of the Petition and
place for signatures
>
> 11. Do neighborhood door hanger campaigns with copy of petition
and place for signature.
>
> 12. Do web site with place to download signable petition -
circulate the web site.
>
> 13. Write letters to Editors and newspaper reporters about the
petition.
>
> 14. Petition local newstalk radio shows about the petition and
getting air time.
>
> 15. Get local TV stations to give air time on local talk shows
about petition and police.
>
> 16. Button hole all the Supervisors by people in Supervisors
districts.
>
> This is just a sample of what could or should maybe possibly done
to get the Petitoion out there.
>
> Please read the UPGRADED - Redeployment Petiton it is posted on
the Activists List Under Files.
>
> Ron Getty
> SF Libertarian
>
> "Amarcy D. Berry" <amarcyb@...> wrote:
> Dear Ron,
>
> Once again, thank you for your immense positiveness and spirit of
> cooperation...and for so quickly morphing the initiative into a
> petition.
>
> It would seem to me that starting with a petition, which does not
> call for our committing to raise $8,000 by May or June, seems more
> appropriate for us, given our current peoplepower.
>
> I like the petition as is. But you can guess what my suggestion
> would be: remove "lack of concern", and substitute with something
> like "It has become necessary for the People of the City and County
> of San Francisco to communicate to the Mayor, the Board of
> Supervisors......(etc) the People's need to see our Police
Department
> re-delploy its resources to concentrate on major crimes......etc.
>
> I am wondering if there is interest to have by the next meeting a
> list of places to go and people to meet, as well as a time line to
> accomplish the events. I realize we do not have a formal committee
> in place yet, but I personally see no reason why any and all of us
> could not start offering suggestions. I am thinking that we might
> want to use election time, coming up pretty soon in June, when
people
> are attuned to politics to do some petitioning.
>
> Marcy
>
> --- In lpsf-activists@yahoogroups.com, Ron Getty <tradergroupe@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Everyone;
> >
> > At yesterdays LPSF meeting due to a variety of factors it was
> determined that the Police Initiative should be re-born as a Police
> Petition.
> >
> > Some of the factors involved:
> >
> > Money. As at its most basic needs it would require at least
> $6,000 and with the now required translation in two additional
> languages possibly another $1,000.
> >
> > Gathering at least 16,000 signatures.
> >
> > Meeting all the legal standards to qualify the Initiative for
the
> ballot.
> >
> > Definitively being able to obtain co-operation of the other
major
> parties and community groups to assist in funding and petition
> circulating.
> >
> > Having LPSF members who could do the necessary work in
> introducing the proposed initiative to the other parties and
> community groups.
> >
> > The Police Initiative by law could not be binding and would
only
> be a non-binding public policy statement. It could not be an
> administrative initiative which would specifically direct the
> activities of police personnel by law.
> >
> > Therefore it was voted to make the Police Initiative a Police
> Petition. All activities and further discussion on this to be done
at
> the May 13 LPSF meeting.
> >
> > I have attached a copy of a sample of what could be said which
> could then be presented as a petition. I have also included a
partial
> list of the activities which would be required of LPSF members to
> gather enough signatures as a Petition.
> >
> > The Petition is for discussion purposes it is not definitive.
The
> LPSF would have to concur as a group to approve doing the petition
> process with an appointed select committee to formulate the
petition
> and make it happen.
> >
> > Some of the activities to be considered which would require
> participation would include:
> >
> > Presenting to other political parties and community groups for
> their support and the circulation of the petitions.
> >
> > Publicity campaigns in newspapers or radio newstalk shows.
Doing
> mailers - postcards - newsletters - telephone campaigns - fund
> raising and any other activity which would garner support and
> signatures.
> >
> > Once enough signatures had been gathered say at least 10,000 -
> 15,000 then presenting to the Mayor and the Board of Supervisors
and
> Chief of Police and Police Commission etc etc etc.
> >
> > Ron Getty
> > SF Libertarian
> >
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