RE: REPORT - Headlands Institute for 2007 Convention

Correct…

There are enough rooms available for 40 people with 4-6 people in a room
with a shared bathroom. The rest would be dorm style with dividing walls
but pretty wide open.

Will that be a problem?

Mike

Mike,

You ask if the accommodations at Headlands would be a problem. My
personal opinion is that it would be, if indeed we are talking about
4 to a room plus dormitory style. We would be encouraging more
single young men from attending, but discouraging everyone else. So
we would be in the same exclusionary mode as in the case of a cruise.

Now, my comment above means that I better come up with another
suggestion for a venue, but I do not have any right now, since I do
not even know what to ask if I could think of a place to call. But,
I will do some internet research this evening and see what I can come
up with.

Marcy

Correct…

There are enough rooms available for 40 people with 4-6 people in a
room
with a shared bathroom. The rest would be dorm style with dividing
walls
but pretty wide open.

Will that be a problem?

Mike
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Subject: Re: REPORT - Headlands Institute for 2007 Convention

From the website, I understood that the sleeping accomodations
were
shared, dormitory style. Is that true?

-lois

OK Gang,

The Center has these dates open…they actually have many more
but I

thought we’d stick with the usual end of Feb early Mar for the
time

being.

Feb 23,24 and 25th

Mar 2, 3 and 4th also

We can make arrangements to stay until as late as 6-7PM Sunday
night
but

they don’t serve dinner or have guests stay over Sunday PM.

They have buffet style feeding with lots of variety…soup bars,
sandwich bars and hot plates. At $74 per day, it will only cost
about

$148 per person for two days of room and board plus the meeting
room.

I’m working on a plan for shuttle service from the major airports
to
the

center.

A 25% deposit based on our predictions is due with the signing
and we

have until two weeks before the event to get the final numbers.
This
is

very reasonable and flexible if you ask me.

The conference room can easily accommodate up to 150 but they’ve
had
as

many as 230 in the room.

ACTION ITEM - As I’ve never organized a convention before, someone
needs
to tell us what key roles need to be staffed. Then we need to
staff

them. So far as I know, Gail has had the most experience so maybe
she

can get back to us with that list so we can start organizing.

Michael Denny

Libertarian Party of San Francisco

(415) 986-7677 x123

mike@…

www.MichaelDenny.net

www.LPSF.org

Our contact at the conference center is:

Galena

gseeger@…

415-332-5771


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Subject: Re: [lpsf-activists] Re: Fw: Bid for LP 2007 Convention

In a message dated 5/8/2006 12:53:42 PM Pacific Standard Time,
mike@… writes:

Here’s a place I went to once…it’s gorgeous and
inexpensive…only $74 a night including room and board.

http://www.hiconferencecenter.com/index.html

I am impressed.If the rates are $75 or so we would be dumb not
to go

there. It may depend on the numbers. I would not promise more
than 100

delegates which can be even fewer rooms since many will share. I
have

numbers for conventions going back into the 70s if you all want
to see

them before making any promises to the hotels.

gail lightfoot


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Hi Mike,

  Thanks again for your work on this. Assuming http://www.hiconferencecenter.com/index.html is the site you're referring to, it looks fabulous! Here are a few suggestions for things to find out:

• Could people buy meals without spending the night? How much would that option cost? What's the closest standard luxury hotel type lodging, for those wishing to pay for it and stay off-site?

• Do the room/board figures they quoted you reflect the 10% discount they offer for non-profit organizations? Do they reflect the December-February 10% seasonal discount for overnight packages?

• Do the room/board figures they quoted you include linens/pillows (see http://www.hiconferencecenter.com/conferences_rooms.html)? Do they include all needed rooms and conference extras (see http://www.hiconferencecenter.com/rates.html)? Do they include insurance (see http://www.hiconferencecenter.com/rates_insurance.html)?

• Would there be other guests in the facility during the stay, or would we have the place all to ourselves? If the latter, would we still be bound by the "quiet hours" of 11pm-6am (see http://www.hiconferencecenter.com/rates.html)? Does this mean just no amplified sound, people yelling, etc., or would even hospitality-suite levels of noise be prohibited?

• Is there all-hours access to the beach? Could we hold an event on the beach (weather permitting)? [Volleyball or ultimate frisbee, perhaps?]

• Can people show up for events at the facilities during the day without paying for meals, lodging, or other fees? Are there any fees for parking?

• Can we bring in outside food/beverages? Sell them to our attendees on site?

• Would they promote our event at all? If so, how? Can we hang a big banner near the entrance to the facility during our stay?

• What's the policy on alcohol/drug use?

• Are we mostly left to police ourselves unless there are complaints, or are rules actively enforced by facility staff? How much of a presence would they have at our events?

  Please let me know if I can be of assistance.

Yours in liberty,
        <<< starchild >>>

Marcy,

  I've traveled extensively at budget hostels with dorm-style accommodations, and while they do tend to attract predominantly younger people, I have not noticed that they are any more popular with male than with female travelers.

  After years of LP conventions featuring accommodations more likely to appeal to an older crowd, frankly I'm not averse to a little bit of catering toward younger activists, especially when the lack of sufficient numbers of younger Libertarians is a recognized problem in our party.

  If any evidence is needed of this problem, look no further than the fact that we live in a major U.S. city with several large universities, yet we do not have a college libertarian group at any of them. In fact with the possible exceptions of Berkeley and UCLA, I am not aware of any active college libertarian groups in the entire state of California.

Yours in liberty,
        <<< starchild >>>

Mike,

You ask if the accommodations at Headlands would be a problem. My
personal opinion is that it would be, if indeed we are talking about
4 to a room plus dormitory style. We would be encouraging more
single young men from attending, but discouraging everyone else. So
we would be in the same exclusionary mode as in the case of a cruise.

Now, my comment above means that I better come up with another
suggestion for a venue, but I do not have any right now, since I do
not even know what to ask if I could think of a place to call. But,
I will do some internet research this evening and see what I can come
up with.

Marcy

>
> Correct…
>
> There are enough rooms available for 40 people with 4-6 people in a
room
> with a shared bathroom. The rest would be dorm style with dividing
walls
> but pretty wide open.
>
> Will that be a problem?
>
> Mike
> From: lois garcia [mailto:l.party@…]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:16 PM
> To: Mike Denny; GkLtft@…; tlfloyd3@…;
> lpsf-activists@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: constance@…; ngerber@…; klyon_us@…;
> fjmanske@…; lawsamz@…; mwstroberg@…;
> srwilson@…; SWilson@…;
> guy.smith@…; johndavide@…; jim@…;
> colferr@…; j.eyer@…; cwmcconnell@…;
> grnewell@…; cory@…; y79908@…;
> maturley@…; morey.straus@…;
> BrierlyServices@…; Anthony Gregory; markselzer@…
> Subject: Re: REPORT - Headlands Institute for 2007 Convention
>
> From the website, I understood that the sleeping accomodations
were
> shared, dormitory style. Is that true?
>
> -lois
>
> > OK Gang,
> >
> > The Center has these dates open…they actually have many more
but I
> > thought we'd stick with the usual end of Feb early Mar for the
time
> > being.
> >
> > Feb 23,24 and 25th
> >
> > Mar 2, 3 and 4th also
> >
> > We can make arrangements to stay until as late as 6-7PM Sunday
night
> but
> > they don't serve dinner or have guests stay over Sunday PM.
> >
> > They have buffet style feeding with lots of variety…soup bars,
> > sandwich bars and hot plates. At $74 per day, it will only cost
about
> > $148 per person for two days of room and board plus the meeting
room.
> > I'm working on a plan for shuttle service from the major airports
to
> the
> > center.
> >
> > A 25% deposit based on our predictions is due with the signing
and we
> > have until two weeks before the event to get the final numbers.
This
> is
> > very reasonable and flexible if you ask me.
> >
> > The conference room can easily accommodate up to 150 but they've
had
> as
> > many as 230 in the room.
> >
> > ACTION ITEM - As I've never organized a convention before, someone
> needs
> > to tell us what key roles need to be staffed. Then we need to
staff
> > them. So far as I know, Gail has had the most experience so maybe
she
> > can get back to us with that list so we can start organizing.
> >
> > Michael Denny
> >
> > Libertarian Party of San Francisco
> >
> > (415) 986-7677 x123
> >
> > mike@…
> >
> > www.MichaelDenny.net
> >
> > www.LPSF.org
> >
> > Our contact at the conference center is:
> >
> > Galena
> >
> > gseeger@…
> >
> > 415-332-5771
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: GkLtft@… [mailto:GkLtft@…]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:34 AM
> > To: Mike Denny; tlfloyd3@…; lpsf-activists@yahoogroups.com
> > Cc: constance@…; ngerber@…; klyon_us@…;
> > fjmanske@…; lawsamz@…; mwstroberg@…;
> > srwilson@…; SWilson@…;
> > guy.smith@…; johndavide@…; jim@…;
> > colferr@…; j.eyer@…;
> cwmcconnell@…;
> > grnewell@…; cory@…; y79908@…;
> > maturley@…; morey.straus@…;
> > BrierlyServices@…; loisgarcia2001@…
> > Subject: Re: [lpsf-activists] Re: Fw: Bid for LP 2007 Convention
> >
> > In a message dated 5/8/2006 12:53:42 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> > mike@… writes:
> >
> > Here's a place I went to once…it's gorgeous and
> > inexpensive…only $74 a night including room and board.
> >
> > http://www.hiconferencecenter.com/index.html
> >
> >
> >
> > I am impressed.If the rates are $75 or so we would be dumb not
to go
> > there. It may depend on the numbers. I would not promise more
than 100
> > delegates which can be even fewer rooms since many will share. I
have
> > numbers for conventions going back into the 70s if you all want
to see
> > them before making any promises to the hotels.
> >
> > gail lightfoot
> >
>
> –
> Lois Garcia
> LPC Alternate
> LPSCC Activities Chair
> 650.814.3245
>

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P.S. - I'll bet it would also be telling to look at the average age of delegates at our conventions. I suspect that it has been slowly climbing.

Looks a million times better than the BOAT !!!!

Speaking of attracting young people to the LP, do we have a plan in
response to an e-mail I just saw regarding some students from Galileo
High School that wish to attend our meeting on Saturday? If not,
could we discuss one?

Marcy

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wrote:

P.S. - I’ll bet it would also be telling to look at the average age
of
delegates at our conventions. I suspect that it has been slowly
climbing.

Marcy,

I’ve traveled extensively at budget hostels with dorm-style
accommodations, and while they do tend to attract predominantly
younger people, I have not noticed that they are any more popular
with

male than with female travelers.

After years of LP conventions featuring accommodations more
likely to

appeal to an older crowd, frankly I’m not averse to a little bit
of

catering toward younger activists, especially when the lack of
sufficient numbers of younger Libertarians is a recognized
problem in

our party.

If any evidence is needed of this problem, look no further
than the

fact that we live in a major U.S. city with several large
universities, yet we do not have a college libertarian group at
any of

them. In fact with the possible exceptions of Berkeley and UCLA,
I am

not aware of any active college libertarian groups in the entire
state

of California.

Yours in liberty,
<<< starchild >>>

Mike,

You ask if the accommodations at Headlands would be a problem.
My

personal opinion is that it would be, if indeed we are talking
about

4 to a room plus dormitory style. We would be encouraging more
single young men from attending, but discouraging everyone
else. So

we would be in the same exclusionary mode as in the case of a
cruise.

Now, my comment above means that I better come up with another
suggestion for a venue, but I do not have any right now, since I
do

not even know what to ask if I could think of a place to call.
But,

I will do some internet research this evening and see what I can
come

up with.

Marcy

— In lpsf-activists@yahoogroups.com, “Mike Denny” <mike@>
wrote:

Correct…

There are enough rooms available for 40 people with 4-6 people
in a

room

with a shared bathroom. The rest would be dorm style with
dividing

walls

but pretty wide open.

Will that be a problem?

Mike
From: lois garcia [mailto:l.party@]
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:16 PM
To: Mike Denny; GkLtft@; tlfloyd3@;
lpsf-activists@yahoogroups.com
Cc: constance@; ngerber@; klyon_us@;
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maturley@; morey.straus@;
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Subject: Re: REPORT - Headlands Institute for 2007 Convention

From the website, I understood that the sleeping accomodations
were
shared, dormitory style. Is that true?

-lois

OK Gang,

The Center has these dates open…they actually have many
more

but I

thought we’d stick with the usual end of Feb early Mar for
the

time

being.

Feb 23,24 and 25th

Mar 2, 3 and 4th also

We can make arrangements to stay until as late as 6-7PM
Sunday

night

but

they don’t serve dinner or have guests stay over Sunday PM.

They have buffet style feeding with lots of variety…soup
bars,

sandwich bars and hot plates. At $74 per day, it will only
cost

about

$148 per person for two days of room and board plus the
meeting

room.

I’m working on a plan for shuttle service from the major
airports

to

the

center.

A 25% deposit based on our predictions is due with the
signing

and we

have until two weeks before the event to get the final
numbers.

This

is

very reasonable and flexible if you ask me.

The conference room can easily accommodate up to 150 but
they’ve

had

as

many as 230 in the room.

ACTION ITEM - As I’ve never organized a convention before,
someone

needs

to tell us what key roles need to be staffed. Then we need to
staff

them. So far as I know, Gail has had the most experience so
maybe

she

can get back to us with that list so we can start organizing.

Michael Denny

Libertarian Party of San Francisco

(415) 986-7677 x123

mike@

www.MichaelDenny.net

www.LPSF.org

Our contact at the conference center is:

Galena

gseeger@

415-332-5771


From: GkLtft@ [mailto:GkLtft@]
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:34 AM
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Cc: constance@; ngerber@; klyon_us@;
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Subject: Re: [lpsf-activists] Re: Fw: Bid for LP 2007
Convention

In a message dated 5/8/2006 12:53:42 PM Pacific Standard
Time,

mike@ writes:

Here’s a place I went to once…it’s gorgeous and
inexpensive…only $74 a night including room and board.

http://www.hiconferencecenter.com/index.html

I am impressed.If the rates are $75 or so we would be dumb
not

to go

there. It may depend on the numbers. I would not promise more
than 100

delegates which can be even fewer rooms since many will
share. I

have

numbers for conventions going back into the 70s if you all
want

to see

them before making any promises to the hotels.

gail lightfoot


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LPC Alternate
LPSCC Activities Chair
650.814.3245

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