RE: [lpsf-discuss] Re: My op-ed in defense of sex work (Bay Area Reporter)

You gotta get f'n real about what the f'k is happening: there is a f'n witch-hunt, destroying the lives of millions, making the US the most imprisoned nation on Earth The prostitutes are "burning at the stake" while you think you have the luxury to discuss their conduct in an intellectual vacuum.
No f'n wonder people despise the libertarians.

my MetroPCS 4G LTE Android device-------- Original message --------From: "'' [lpsf-discuss]" <> Date: 12/10/2015 9:58 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Subject: RE: [lpsf-discuss] Re: My op-ed in defense of sex work (Bay Area Reporter)

What the police were doing to prostitutes wasn’t OK. What Mitch was saying about how he feels about what they do is OK.

It could be the same about many other things….the dangers of drinking haven’t changed before or after Prohibition. One could still make valid arguments against
drinking alcohol from many points of view and even challenged the essential morality of someone who continuously makes bad choices affecting themselves and others. During prohibition it could result in their death at the hands of the police. Now less so. I
don’t get the connection to Mitch’s expressing his personal feelings about this subject in the argument.


Well let’s focus our ire on the actual witch hunters and not on good Libertarians with personal opinions about behaviors while understanding the inappropriateness of bringing government force into the transaction.

And John….this is hardly the issue the public struggles with Libertarians on. In fact, it’s exactly the opposite. If you are going to bad mouth Libertarians, at least get your facts straight.


I'll second Mike's suggestion.

Also, I would like to throw in an additional opinion. This started out as an interesting discussion; however, it seems to have lost its original focus and continues to plunge further into muddled territory. Muddled territory is where topics shift from "I disagree with your views on (bla bla)," to "You suck!"

So, I would love to go back to the original topic that (the way I saw it) had to do with the nature of actions for profit. Prostitution might be one example, but also speech, political campaigning, foster care of children, social work. For example, if I say social workers would want to perpetrate a socialist system primarily because such a system protects their work, rather than primarily because they love humanity, would that make me a bigot who incites persecution of social workers? If so, then I would say we have reached a level of political correctness unimagined by our Founding Fathers.

In un-muddled territory, no opinion relevant to the topic -- repeat topic, not person -- at hand should be excluded from discussion. Sorry that you apparently totally misinterpreted my suggestion that LPSF start a "Safe Space" Discussion List, John!

I would even welcome a discussion on whether libertarians are indeed "despised," and if so why!


One more question: "People's lives are on the balance." Does that sentence include law enforcement personnel and FBI agent? They are people too. Personally, I lump all professions voluntarily chosen in the same group. When choosing, a person should be aware of the risks.