I hope so Marcy....thanks
Mike
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Dear Derek,
Spoken like a Republican!
Regards,
Marcy
--- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Derek Jensen" <derekj72@...>
wrote:
What makes David Nolan so special? By that I mean why does anyone
care what
his intent was? Why are his thoughts over 30 years ago important
today? As
a registered Republican very sympathetic to many libertarian views,
I
honestly couldn't care less about what David Nolan thought. I can
see that
someone identifying with the Libertarian Party might think his
views were
important, but I'm not sure it's rational on their part to care.
Whatever
his views or intent was, I can only conclude that they have been
abject
failures politically and have done very little to advance liberty.
Example: I submit that having Ron Paul (R-TX) in Congress, is many
times
over the public platform for libertarian ideas than all the elected
Libertarian Party members in any office. This is why I believe the
best
hope for increasing liberty in the near term lies with Republican
members of
Congress such as Flake (R-AZ) and Shadegg (R-AZ).
-Derek
>
> I hope so Marcy....thanks
>
>
> Mike
>
> From: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com <lpsf-discuss%
40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
> lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com <lpsf-discuss%40yahoogroups.com>]
> On Behalf Of Amarcy D. Berry
> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 8:40 PM
> To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com <lpsf-discuss%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Re: Convention Carnage
>
> I believe Mike Denny is more in line with what LP founder Mr.
Nolan
> had in mind: activism designed to promote an ideology. However,
> since I cannot possibly devine what Mr. Nolan truly had in mind
when
> he founded a "political party" that was not supposed to behave
like a
> political party (low priority on candidates, for instance), I
have to
> assume he intended to provide a loose structure that could
function
> on several levels: 1) activists (demonstrations, neighborhood
> communications, OPH booths), 2) political support (attendance at
> local political meetings, initiatives, LTEs, press releases), 3)
> participation in the political arena (running for office,
introducing
> legislation), and 4) Candiates, however isolated and however
> esoteric, libertarians could vote for in lieu of voting for a
lesser
> of two evils. So, I trust we are all Libertarians now?
>
> Marcy
>
> --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com <lpsf-discuss%
> "Mike Denny" <mike@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Allen,
> >
> > The Party is and can continue to be a political party for those
who
> find
> > it useful....what I'm discussing is becoming individually...a
> > non-political Libertarian activist working outside the
> growing "Party"
> > constraints.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > From: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com <lpsf-discuss%
40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
> lpsf-
> discuss@yahoogroups.com <discuss%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > On Behalf Of Allen Rice
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 10:28 AM
> > To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com <lpsf-discuss%
> > Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Re: Convention Carnage
> >
> >
> > For me, the problem with this perspective is that there are
about
> > 83,000 people statewide who have registered with the LP, many
> > presumably under the impression that the LP is an actual
political
> > party, with the intention of obtaining power and running the
civil
> > machinery. Operating the Party as if it were a philosophy club
has
> > seemed to me for a long time to be a bit of a fraud.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Allen Rice
> >
> >
> > --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com <lpsf-discuss%
> "Mike Denny" <mike@> wrote:
> > >
> > > It might just be time to realize that the LP is an ideological
> > movement
> > > and not a political one. Politics won't solve anything so
what's
> > the
> > > point of it? Those in the LP who think our movement is
political
> > may be
> > > deluded and this trend within the LP certainly reinforces that
> > thinking.
> > > I'm perfectly content to be an ideological Libertarian
> > disconnected from
> > > a political party.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone else have something to say about this?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com <lpsf-discuss%
40yahoogroups.com>[mailto:
> lpsf-
> > discuss@yahoogroups.com <discuss%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > > On Behalf Of Morey Straus
> > > Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 10:15 PM
> > > To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com <lpsf-discuss%
> > > Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Convention Carnage
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If you weren't there to see the wreck first hand, there is
plenty
I agree. Let's not repeat the mistakes of the Objectivists (or the Nationalists) by deifying our founders.
- Steve