For clarification: the proxy voting Justin mentioned refers to
candidate and ballot measure recommendations only (LPSF
Bylaws: "Candidate recommendations, as well as positions for or
against ballot measures, shall be made on the basis of a majority
vote by members present at the endorsement meeting and any proxy
votes that are either sent by mail or by such electronic transmission
methods as may be approved by the LPSF and are received by the time
the vote is tallied..")
Marcy
--- In lpsf-activists@yahoogroups.com, "Amarcy D. Berry"
<amarcyb@h...> wrote:
> Yes, there are challenges with proxy voting, but this procedure is
in
> the LPSF bylaws now. I personally would vote for keeping it there
> primarily as a way to promote inclusiveness.
>
> Marcy
>
>
>
> --- In lpsf-activists@yahoogroups.com, M Carling <m@i...> wrote:
> >
> > On Oct 5, 2005, at 20:28, Justin T. Sampson wrote:
> >
> > > By the way, what was the reasoning behind the provision for
proxy
> > > voting? I'm uncomfortable with the idea, because any proxy votes
> > > would not have the benefit of any debate that occurs during the
> > > meeting.
> >
> > There are a number of problems with proxy voting:
> > - limited debate
> > - makes voice voting impossible
> > - increases vulnerability to hostile takeover
> > - increases vulnerability to fraudulent voting
> >
> > Roberts Rules of Order strongly recommends against allowing
proxy
> > voting.
> >
> > "Ordinarily it should neither be allowed nor required, because
> proxy
> > voting is incompatible with the essential characteristics of a
> > deliberative assembly in which membership is individual,
personal,
> > and nontransferable. In a stock corporation, on the other hand,
> > where ownership is transferable, the voice and vote of the owner
> is
> > also transferable, by use of a proxy. But in a nonstock
> corporation,
> > where membership is usually on the same basis as in an
> > unincorporated, voluntary association, voting by proxy should not
> be
> > permitted unless the state's corporation law -- as applying to
> > nonstock corporations -- absolutely requires it.
> >
> > "If the law under which an organization is incorporated allows
> proxy
> > voting to be prohibited by a provision of the bylaws, the
adoption
> of
> > this book as a parliamentary authority by prescription in the
> bylaws
> > should be treated as sufficient provision to accomplish that
> result."
> > RONR (10th ed.), pp. 414-15.
> >
> > M Carling
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