Dear Ron,
Police Priorities:
Sorry I did not make myself more clear. Yes, I was looking for the
current guidelines on police priorities in general; since we can't
suggest priorities without knowing what the priorities are at
present. I briefly googled this subject, but found nothing explicit.
Nor did I find a budget that might indicate resources allocated to
different police actions.
Low Income Projects Ownership:
After reading about the hundreds of programs addressing low-income
housing ownership, I am at a loss as to how an LPSF proposal to add
one more such program will help low income pople. Also, I am
wondering whether such a proposal would qualify as a "civil
liberties" issue for which we voted at our last LPSF meeting.
Civil Liberties as an initiative:
Once we really focus on the civil liberties issues, we do find
ourselves quite limited, either because the rules come from state or
Federal, or because of the NIMBY factor, or because we find ourselves
back in the economic arena (such as in the case of the home
ownership). As Mike Acree suggested, we then are left
with "resolutions." So, in summary, I have ran out of ideas. But I
am open for more discussion or suggestions.
Marcy
--- In lpsf-activists@yahoogroups.com, Ron Getty <tradergroupe@y...>
wrote:
>
> Dear Marcy;
>
> I'm certain there is no police code directing action on car
breakins. The only reason the SFPD does those reports is for
insurance purposes.
>
> The non-action on car break-ins is part of the internal police
policies on prioritization. Car breakdowns fall way below such things
of interest. Much in the manner larcencies fall below the radar
screens of the SFPD.
>
> How we could craft an initiative to re-order priorities or re-
order man power requirements to major crimes is open for discussion.
>
> Ron Getty
> SF Libertarian
>
> "Amarcy D. Berry" <amarcyb@h...> wrote:
> Dear Ron,
>
> Oh, I know...we have so much to learn (but, heck, we are doing that
> right now, so what am I discouraged about!!) I know there must be
> a "priority rule" somewhere in the SFPD. For example, recently my
> neighbors convinced me to call the police when my poor Toyota
> suffered the zillionth broken window and search for valuables. A
most
> courteous officer came, wrote down the information, and advised me
to
> call if my car was broken into again. Not so fast, officer. After
> much polite questioning on my part, the officer stated that
> department rules do not include action on car brakeins. OK,
sooooo,
> what else do these rules say? If the rules already mandate focus on
> violent crimes, we have no beef with the SFPD. But, if not, then
> perhaps we have a good initiative in the making.
>
> I will look over the SF police code over the weekend. If no
priority
> rule there, maybe we could craft a letter to Chief Fong inquiring
how
> come no action on car brakeins, hoping for some clue on a priority
> rule.
>
> Marcy
>
> --- In lpsf-activists@yahoogroups.com, Ron Getty
<tradergroupe@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Marcy and All Others;
> >
> > As long as the members of the SFPD take an occasional soap and
> water shower I really don't believe they'd end up with a bad
culture.
> ( heh heh heh)
> >
> > However; requiring the SFPD to focus and devote major resources
> and personnel to major felonies of homicide and rape and robbery
may
> possibly be done. I don't know how you could direct the SFPD to do
> this by an initiative issue.
> >
> > This would require more discussion and more importantly
> investigation as to how the SFPD actually directs its resources and
> makes the assignments and how they do their record keeping.
> >
> > In a number of areas the SFPD is vastly behind the available
> software for reporting and cross-checking crimes and are a paper
> dominated response system with events happening in one police
> district not exactly available for another police district to look
> out for similar crimes or criminals.
> >
> > We need more information from the "inside" of the SFPD on how
all
> of this is done before crafting a SFPD initiative.
> >
> > Ron Getty
> > SF Libertarian
> >
> >
> > "Amarcy D. Berry" <amarcyb@h...> wrote:
> > I'm with Morey here. Finding a specific item in the police
code
> that
> > needs fixing, or requiring that police focus on violent crime
> before
> > they deal with victimless crimes sounds great to me. Police
> bashing
> > (or bashing anyone) does not. Also, I am thinking that an
> initiative
> > that addresses "police culture" necessarily implies that all
police
> > officers have a bad culture, which I do not believe to be the
case.
> >
> > Marcy
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In lpsf-activists@yahoogroups.com, Morey Straus
> > <morey.straus@g...> wrote:
> > >
> > > As per my previous note, I don't support the Mayor, the Chief,
or
> > the
> > > SFBG on this issue. Come to think of it, I probably don't
> support
> > > the above on anything at all. But that's beside the point.
> > >
> > > Seriously guys... The uniformed cops spend most of their time
> > dealing
> > > with the scum of the earth. Remember a couple of months back,
> with
> > the
> > > violent protesters attacking them and destroying property?
It's
> a
> > > crap job. Besides that, the cops here are not like those of
say,
> > > Fremont, for example. The ones I've dealt with in SF have
always
> > been
> > > courteous and professional.
> > >
> > > Again, I submit prioritization as a winning civil liberties
> > initiative.
> > >
> > > Yours,
> > > Morey
> > >
> > > On 12/14/05, Ron Getty <tradergroupe@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Everyone;
> > > >
> > > > A Bay Guardian editorial on the police and what needs to be
> done.
> > This is an
> > > > alternative to the proposed housing initiative. This would be
a
> > police
> > > > cultural attitude change initiative or some such thing.
> > > >
> > > > [http://www.sfbg.com/40/11/news_ed_cops.html](http://www.sfbg.com/40/11/news_ed_cops.html)
> > > >
> > > > Ron Getty
> > > > SF Libertarian
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