Prop. 54/racial issues

Dave,

  You're right, I did mean "in favor of." Thanks for catching that.

  It's a delicate balance to do it without reinforcing racism, but I
think libertarians have to play the race card ourselves: Make it clear
who the racists are. Make these people feel guilty for forcing
multi-ethnic people to choose one part of their heritage over another.
Make them feel guilty for spreading hate against people of European
descent. Make it clear that we do not agree with their PC religion, and
we reject the "original sin" they want to lay on anyone who is "white,"
"straight," male, non-disabled, etc.

  We need to remind those susceptible to PC ideology of the history that
this ideology tries to erase — the universality of slavery before
modern times, the enslavement of Africans by other Africans, the bloody
culture of the Mayans and other pre-Columbian societies, etc. Remind
them that it was Europeans, and people in capitalist-leaning societies
who led the drive to abolish slavery worldwide, and who have given us
the institution of representative democracy, and tried to legally
establish respect for each and every individual in society regardless
of race.

Yours in liberty,
              <<< Starchild >>>

Thanks for the reply, Starchild, but why are so many
people wanting these racial categorizatons to
continue? I don't think that every college student
wearing a No on 54 button wants people to be divided
by Race (even though that's what they are supporting).
Why are so many people buying the racial preference
trend, and how can we, as libertarians, get our point
across without being accused of being racist or
uncompassionate?

Also, I think you meant 'in favor of' instead of
"against" in your comment below, and I will check his
website out. Thanks!

Dave Barker

  Ward Connerly is extremely good at clarifying and
articulating these
issues. People wanting more arguments against Prop.
54 might do well to
look up him or his group (I believe it's called the
American Civil
Rights Coalition.)

Yours in liberty,
              <<< Starchild >>>

Hi Everyone,

I want to know if anyone is going to the Political
Chat tonight. If so, a topic I would like to

suggest

for discussion would be Prop. 54.

Voting yes on Prop. 54, from my understanding,

would

eliminate government institutions from collecting
racial and ethnic data on people, which is

currently

done by those boxes at the end of most forms we

are

asked to fill out. People in favor of such

collection

of information are urging people to vote No on

prop.

54, allowing this to continue.

People who want this collection of data by

government

institutions to end, and be illegal, want people

to

vote Yes on prop. 54, which will make it illegal.

This sounds pretty straight-forward to me, and an

easy

decision to vote on, however, we do live in the
Alice-in-Wonderland times that we live in now.

Who would think we would come to a time when many
people would be in favor of supporting a

government

database collecting names of people and

classifying

them by their race or ethnicity? If one just looks

at

the track record of government's oppression of

people

throughout history, why would one be in favor of

so

easily allowing those who are, or who could be in

a

position of power, to have access to such a thing?

Being a public school teacher, and a student at a
university, so many people I meet are in favor of
keeping the collection of racial data in place.

Many,

many students are walking around with buttons that

say

to vote non on 54, keeping racial data collecton

in

place. Those who I've heard speaking claim it's

for

tracking health-related issues, and making sure
"People of Color" and "minorities" are having

their

needs met. How can we, as Libertarians, convince
people that this is not a good idea without coming
across as being uncompassionate to the health and
"equity" of 'People of Color?'

People claim that this is an attack on "People of
Color" (voting yes on 54). They want government
institutions to continue to collect racial and

ethnic

data on POC, and they claim that those who are

against

this (Voting yes on 54), are against "progress"

made

in making sure the needs of POC are met.

Met by who? The government? Again, this is truely
amazing to me that I would see so many people,
especially non-white people, wanting to continue

such

collection of such personal information on them,

by

people and institutions that they don't even know.

How do we convince people that this is wrong,

without

sounding that we aren't against "non-white" people
making progress? This is similar with other issues

we

have to debate on without sounding

uncompassionate,

such as the environment, "universal" health care,
living wage laws, etc. etc....

I hope people will continue the political Chats,

even

though I can't make them anymore. Tonight I start

my

first class on how to be a Principal of our

government

schools. I wish I could share some of the material

we

are asked to read (for this class) with all of

you.

The last essay I had to read in preparation for my
class tonight was against free-market solutions to
public schooling. None of the arguments in this

essay

pointed to why they were against free-market
principles, but just mentioned over and over the

word

"social justice" and a "lack of equity,"

throughout

the entire essay. It's incredible.

Dave Barker.

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