Privilege

My concern as far as libertarians is freedoms. Some of the posters of white privilege felt privileged enough to post felony activities. Regardless, of any statue of limitations.
But, then as I have stated before, race is not an issue yet as accepted in libertarian discussion.
So, still I bring it up because, the wonderful more inclusive issues as part of establishing the libertarian Facebook page.

And, other than that to make mention, that a uniform police policy done to all in the aggressive manner, I receive could be a solution to the current policing problem.
As bad as I feel thinking it: I want whites to constantly get dogged by cops. Just the opposite of what I observed when others have the simplest police contact.
So, I’m just reporting in, that even if the white young people actually are not privileged, then them feeling they are is a powerful thought process of freedom and privilege in itself.

Freedom is definitely my chief concern too, Eric. While I don't think anyone deserves to be the victim of injustice, I do think that in the case of some people of Caucasian descent, experiencing the kind of treatment at the hands of police that is more frequently meted out to young, low-income, African-American males would be eye-opening for them and lead to changes in attitudes that would help advance long-term reforms which would tend to reduce injustice.

  As with taxes and regulations though, I think a better solution to achieve fairness is *reducing* the oppression on those who are being oppressed the most, rather than increasing the oppression on those experiencing less of it, because there's no such thing as "too little oppression".

  I can see what you mean about someone of European descent having less risk in disclosing felonious activities. In general, I think the fewer resources you have, and the more you are an object of social prejudice, the more risk you take in self-disclosing having broken the law. I do think libertarians are having conversations about race -- I've certainly found them online. But I am by no means satisfied that the libertarian movement is as concerned on the whole about injustice toward poor, marginalized, "low status", or discriminated-against members of society as we ought to be.

  Not sure what you're talking about regarding "establishing the libertarian Facebook page". I don't really understand what you mean by "even if the white young people actually are not privileged, then them feeling they are is a powerful thought process of freedom and privilege in itself" either. Are you suggesting it's good for people to feel they're more privileged than they actually are? If so, do you feel this is true for everyone?

Love & Liberty,
                                ((( starchild )))

Good you changed the title of the discussion to "Privilege," Starchild. This is certainly a subject worth understanding!

I know you were asking Eric what he meant regarding the LPSF Facebook page, but I would like to cut in and offer one response. A while back, I posted the popular picture of Edward Snowden with the caption "See Something, Say Something" on the LPSF Facebook page. Eric admonished me for choosing a picture of a white man instead of that of a black person. Well, Snowden is white -- nothing I can do about that. But Snowden is famous and often called a hero, not because he is white, but because he had the guts to do what he did. Had a black person done a similar deed, he/she would have the same chance at being the subject of the Facebook post.

So, Eric, and everybody, please feel free to find your own heroes and post them in the LPSF Facebook page.

Also, Starchid, thank you for your take of what "privilege" means. To me it simply means accidents of birth. Nothing anyone can do about those! Stephen Hawking prefers to focus on ground-breaking cosmology, not the fact he is in a wheelchair. As a teenager in Houston, when folks were still shell shocked over disaggregation, I preferred to focus on staying on the honor roll, not on the fact I am of mixed race.

So, to me "privilege" or lack of it is what you are born with or not born with. "Success" (to me described as contentment and not wanting for the basic necessities of life) is what you personally choose to make of yourself. I think Eric's excellent observation about perception plays a huge role. "... even if the white young people actually are not privileged, then them feeling they are is a powerful thought process of freedom and privilege in itself." Why assume black folks are somehow precluded from having the same thought process? Like Muhamad Ali said, "I'am the greatest!!" And voila, he was.

Marcy