[pinkpistols-politics] Note from Australia... by way of a million other places?

Starchild,

You are correct, I should check these out before forwarding them on.

On the other hand, I read the "rebuttal" at the link you provided, and find it less convincing than the original letter. It seems they support all the main statistics cited.

Rich

Richard,

  I don't think the information at that site was necessarily intended as a "rebuttal," or that its aim was to prove everything in the original letter false. The site, BreakTheChain.org, is dedicated to "educating people about the shortcomings of chain letters." The link Steve posted from Snopes.com offers a longer and more cogently written critique.

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Starchild,

You are correct, I should check these out before forwarding them on.

On the other hand, I read the "rebuttal" at the link you provided, and find it less convincing than the original letter. It seems they support all the main statistics cited.

Rich

From: Starchild
To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] Fw: [pinkpistols-politics] Note from Australia... by way of a million other places?

Richard,

I think the basic point here is sound, but it has now been -- not 12 months, but *8 years* since this letter apparently began circulating, and not all the figures are quite what they're cracked up to be.

See http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/australiaguns.html .

Yours in liberty,
<<< Starchild >>>

From: hereward
To: pinkpistols-politics@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 8:57 AM
Subject: [pinkpistols-politics] Note from Australia

Toby Hoover take note:

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> Here's a thought to warm some of your hearts...
>
> From Ed Chenel, a police officer in Australia...
>
> Hi, Yanks! I thought you all would like to see the
> real figures from
> Down Under. It has now been 12 months since gun
> owners in Australia
> were forced by a new law to surrender 640,381
> personal firearms to be
> destroyed by our own government, a program costing
> Australia taxpayers
> more than $500 million.
>
> The first year results are now in. Australia-wide,
> homicides are up
> 3.2%; Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6%;
> Australia-wide, armed
> robberies are up 44% (yes, 44%)!
>
> In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with
> firearms are now up 300%.
> (Note that, while the law-abiding citizens turned
> them in, the criminals
> did not! And criminals still possess their guns!)
>
> While figures over the previous 25 years showed a
> steady decrease in
> armed robbery with firearms, this has changed
> drastically upward in the
> past 12 months, since the criminals now are
> guaranteed that their prey
> is unarmed. There has also been a dramatic increase
> in break-ins and
> assaults of the elderly.
>
> Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how
> public safety has
> decreased, after such monumental effort and expense
> was expended in
> "successfully ridding Australian society of guns."
> You won't see this on
> the American evening news or hear your governor or
> members of the State
> Assembly disseminating this information.
>
> The Australian experience proves it. Guns in the
> hands of honest
> citizens save lives and property and, yes,
> gun-control laws affect only
> the law-abiding citizens.

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