Is the LPSF going to video record His Stump Speech & Q&A for those who cannot attend but wish to be fully aware of candidates who may ( or may not ) be ready for the heated limelight of the big leagues ? Will Mike be taking questions from LPSF members & associates on local issues ?
From: iMRMosLV! via LPSF Forum noreply@forum.lpsf.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2022 5:10 PM
To: mike@dennz.com
Subject: Re: [LPSF Forum] [Activists List] Mike ter Maat for President
Is the LPSF going to video record His Stump Speech & Q&A for those who cannot attend but wish to be fully aware of candidates who may ( or may not ) be ready for the heated limelight of the big leagues ? Will Mike be taking questions from LPSF members & associates on local issues ?
Sorry I overlooked your previous message. Just confirmed with Mike ter Maat that he will be coming in person to our meeting this Saturday (Nov. 12) at the main library (3-5pm, 3rd floor Paley conference room).
FRNP https://forum.lpsf.org/u/frnp
November 10
Is the LPSF going to video record His Stump Speech & Q&A for those who cannot attend but wish to be fully aware of candidates who may ( or may not ) be ready for the heated limelight of the big leagues ? Will Mike be taking questions from LPSF members & associates on local issues ?
From: Starchild via LPSF Forum noreply@forum.lpsf.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2022 7:03 PM
To: mike@dennz.com
Subject: [LPSF Forum] [Activists List] Mike ter Maat for President
Sorry I overlooked your previous message. Just confirmed with Mike ter Maat that he will be coming in person to our meeting this Saturday (Nov. 12) at the main library (3-5pm, 3rd floor Paley conference room).
Sorry I overlooked your previous message. Just confirmed with Mike ter Maat that he will be coming in person to our meeting this Saturday (Nov. 12) at the main library (3-5pm, 3rd floor Paley conference room).
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November 10
Is the LPSF going to video record His Stump Speech & Q&A for those who cannot attend but wish to be fully aware of candidates who may ( or may not ) be ready for the heated limelight of the big leagues ? Will Mike be taking questions from LPSF members & associates on local issues ?
I was but involved in another organization planning a meeting at the same time. Can’t be two places at once. And this other group is a priority.
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From: Starchild via LPSF Forum noreply@forum.lpsf.org
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2022 9:04 PM
To: mike@dennz.com
Subject: [LPSF Forum] [Activists List] Mike ter Maat for President
Liberty for the Unborn……the oldest (50 years) Pro-Life non-profit in Nor Cal. With a substantial endowment. They are looking for a Treasurer and website designer.
Although, after Prop 1 passing 2 to 1, it seems nearly, but not quite, as hopeless a cause as a Libertarian presidential candidate’s chances for even a modicum of public support or even awareness. But I wish him well.
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From: Starchild via LPSF Forum noreply@forum.lpsf.org
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2022 9:37 PM
To: mike@dennz.com
Subject: [LPSF Forum] [Activists List] Mike ter Maat for President
I don’t know whether Mike ter Maat is at all familiar with local SF issues. Given that he’s a national candidate living in Virginia I would not expect him to be focused on those, but I don’t think there’s any harm in asking him how he would approach a local issue.
Making recordings of our guest speakers would be nice. Do you have any experience/interest/equipment for making/uploading/editing video content?
FRNP https://forum.lpsf.org/u/frnp
November 10
Is the LPSF going to video record His Stump Speech & Q&A for those who cannot attend but wish to be fully aware of candidates who may ( or may not ) be ready for the heated limelight of the big leagues ? Will Mike be taking questions from LPSF members & associates on local issues ?
After initially being pro-choice on abortion and then leaning more toward pro-life for a while, over recent years I’ve become more pro-choice again. While I’m not comfortable with late-term abortions, as with other things I’m not comfortable with (e.g. factory farming, eating meat) I don’t think that trying to criminalize the activities in question is the best approach. Too much danger in empowering government to enforce more laws. Is this pro-life group only focused on the laws, or have they considered using other less government-centric methods to try to reduce abortion? For instance, trying to fund research into more effective birth control, early pregnancy detection, or better options to remove a fetus from the womb allow it to gestate in an artificial environment without killing it?
We just want people to stop murdering innocent lives. We will accept the use government force if possible as we would with any other murderer. But we prefer if people are simply horrified by the evil immoral nature of it and cease and desist by any means necessary. All the rest doesn’t matter.
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From: Starchild via LPSF Forum noreply@forum.lpsf.org
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2022 10:04 PM
To: mike@dennz.com
Subject: [LPSF Forum] [Activists List] Mike ter Maat for President
After initially being pro-choice on abortion and then leaning more toward pro-life for a while, over recent years I’ve become more pro-choice again. While I’m not comfortable with late-term abortions, as with other things I’m not comfortable with (e.g. factory farming, eating meat) I don’t think that trying to criminalize the activities in question is the best approach. Too much danger in empowering government to enforce more laws. Is this pro-life group only focused on the laws, or have they considered using other less government-centric methods to try to reduce abortion? For instance, trying to fund research into more effective birth control, early pregnancy detection, or better options to remove a fetus from the womb allow it to gestate in an artificial environment without killing it?
I’m curious Starchild, how would you feel if I started a business taking pre-born animals (right up to the moment of conception) out of the wombs of their mother to sell for food? I guess they wouldn’t be cows or sheep or whatever as they weren’t born yet. So there wouldn’t be any killing? No abuse?
We just want people to stop murdering innocent lives. We will accept the use government force if possible as we would with any other murderer. But we prefer if people are simply horrified by the evil immoral nature of it and cease and desist by any means necessary. All the rest doesn’t matter.
After initially being pro-choice on abortion and then leaning more toward pro-life for a while, over recent years I’ve become more pro-choice again. While I’m not comfortable with late-term abortions, as with other things I’m not comfortable with (e.g. factory farming, eating meat) I don’t think that trying to criminalize the activities in question is the best approach. Too much danger in empowering government to enforce more laws. Is this pro-life group only focused on the laws, or have they considered using other less government-centric methods to try to reduce abortion? For instance, trying to fund research into more effective birth control, early pregnancy detection, or better options to remove a fetus from the womb allow it to gestate in an artificial environment without killing it?
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I’m curious Starchild, how would you feel if I started a business taking pre-born animals (right up to the moment of conception) out of the wombs of their mother to sell for food? I guess they wouldn’t be cows or sheep or whatever as they weren’t born yet. So there wouldn’t be any killing? No abuse?
Part of the reason he’s against eating meat is it involves killing animals. But what if they weren’t animals before they were born?
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From: Michael Edelstein via LPSF Forum noreply@forum.lpsf.org
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2022 8:24 AM
To: mike@dennz.com
Subject: [LPSF Forum] [Activists List] Mike ter Maat for President
Yes, they are advancing liberty. They are called Live and Let Live and have pro-liberty chapters in 31 countries. Consider becoming a member: LiveandLetLive.org. Do you favor their approach as I do?
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Thats a separate discussion. It seems to be one of those topics like with doctors and confessors (and now scientists), where you can always find one to tell you what you want to hear.
But back to the issue of killing prominent previously.
From: Michael Edelstein via LPSF Forum noreply@forum.lpsf.org
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2022 8:36:43 AM
To: mike@dennz.commike@dennz.com
Subject: [LPSF Forum] [Activists List] Mike ter Maat for President
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Most likely people would care if little puppies were being aborted. There’s a good interview with of Yeonmi Park by Lex Fridman about how the world is ignoring the genocide in North Korea but we gotta protect the puppies.
As someone who’s coming across the abortion issue in his own relationship, I’ll tell you this: shit changes when you’re actually trying to have a kid. Men who aren’t trying don’t have the same perspective as men who are. Men who aren’t attracted to women definitely have a different perspective because it’s not likely a reality that they have to actually think about the consequences. And all of us have a different perspective than women. It’s a tough issue that you have to weigh against your soul.
Thank you Chris……yes, the disconnect is astounding.
And subjectively, people are all over the place on the topic. But objectively and historically, new life (personhood) is a gift to us that begins at conception.
I’ve followed all the Libertarian discussions on the topic notably Walter Block and his various debates. And think there’s something to it and that technology will enable new options in the future. But for now, we are dealing with a life or death situation.
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From: CDMendes via LPSF Forum noreply@forum.lpsf.org
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2022 9:05 AM
To: mike@dennz.com
Subject: [LPSF Forum] [Activists List] Mike ter Maat for President
Most likely people would care if little puppies were being aborted. There’s a good interview with of Yeonmi Park by Lex Fridman about how the world is ignoring the genocide in North Korea but we gotta protect the puppies.
As someone who’s coming across the abortion issue in his own relationship, I’ll tell you this: shit changes when you’re actually trying to have a kid. Men who aren’t trying don’t have the same perspective as men who are. Men who aren’t attracted to women definitely have a different perspective because it’s not likely a reality that they have to actually think about the consequences. And all of us have a different perspective than women. It’s a tough issue that you have to weigh against your soul.