Protesting is kind of like voting Libertarian. The impact it has is proportionate to how many people do it, and you can't force anybody else to do it. All you can do is participate yourself when the opportunity presents, and encourage others to do the same. Supporters of freedom who don't wish to do these things themselves should at least try not to DIScourage those who do, or who may be open to it.
Yours in liberty,
<<< Starchild >>>
P.S. - I hope you'll let us know if your lobbying gets any noticeable results.
I never said or implied protesting was a waste of time. I said the time and energy could be put to better use. If your bete noir is protesting rather than buttonholing legislators to change the laws and letter writing campaigns to get the legislators to change the laws and telephone bank campaigns go for the Protest!
Protest! Protest! Protest!
Yes, you can have an impact if there are enough masses of protestors and you get lots of news media coverage locally - state wide - nationally. Until then the politicians will turn their noses up and their thumbs down and roll their eyeballs and put their fingers in their ears and humm a tune before they enact any changes in the marijuana laws for medical marijuana users.
P.S. The last time I was involved in Mass Protests was in San Francisco with the Vietnam War Protest Marches when 100,000's and 100,00's of marijuana smoking hippies and draft protestors and anti-war protestors mass protested marched etc etc etc. If you had those kind of numbers for medical marijuana users watch how fast the laws would get changed!!!
I don't understand what you mean by implying that protesting is a
waste of time and then saying I should protest more.
<<< Starchild >>>
> Dear Starchild;
> Yes it would be nice to rally and protest the treatment of medical
> marijuana users. However, until Congress in its infinite wisdom
> de-criminalizes marijuana and all drug laws a protest on behalf of the
> victims of those laws doesn't cut it unless it gets the law changed in
> the users lifetimes.
> After reading about the treatment of medical marijuana users both from
> a personal need viewpoint and the criminal jurisdiction viewpoint I
> can't at times stop thinking how medical marijuana users are dual
> victims. Once for their medical problem and once for the criminal laws
> used against them.
> Sadly, at times it seems to me, as if they aren't nothing more than a
> political football. They end up being punted about by all sides of the
> drug laws and medical marijuana user laws and just plain marijuana
> repeal laws and anyone else who has an axe to grind or to look tough
> on drugs or to look good because they voted politically correct.
> De-criminalize and repeal all federal and state drug laws that's the
> only way it's going to work.
> And as I stated on the earlier post: methinks thou doesn't protestest
> enough. Protest more!
> If you can afford to take the time off from work!
> Ron Getty
> SF Libertarian
> Starchild wrote:
> It's always possible that time spent going to a rally could be
> put to
> better use. However going to this rally will clearly do more for
> medical marijuana than will doing nothing. So unless you'd rather spend
> the time staying home and writing letters or doing something else to
> get drug laws repealed, I encourage you to try and make it out to
> support and network with your fellow human beings who realize the folly
> of laws against people using a beneficial plant as medicine.
> Solidarity in the Cause!
> Power to the People!
> <<< Starchild >>>
> > Dear Everyone;
> > While the intent of the rally is to protest the courts refusal to
> > acknowledge purported violations of due process and clarifying
> > agency jurisdiction the time and energy expended could be put to
> > better usage.
> > Specifically, having enabling joint House and Senate legislation to
> > allow Medical Marijuan Users under a medically directed program by a
> > licensed physician.
> > Until such time as such legislation is passed allowing this any
> > other attempts to stop the DEA or the DOJ is Puff the Magic Dragon
> > blowing smoke in the wind.
> > I also direct your attention to the following URL site. It is on the
> > DEA web site and has the Controlled Substances Act of 1970 in all
> > its bureacratic glory and meanderings. In it it addresses
> > registration and who has to register and why and under what
> > conditions. I recommend reading it over before proceeding further on
> > the registration question.
> > http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/agency/csa.htm
> > Secondly, the authors of the short and long versions of the problems
> > with registration at the web site of http://www.commonsenselaw.com
> > allow they are not attorneys. So their description of what the
> > problem is about the law and registration and jurisdiction and what
> > basis was used in enacting the law and what precedents were used are
> > not qualified legal opinions.
> > The law as written covers a bunch of chemical and organic mind
> > bending and physically effecting drugs not just marijuana. One of
> > the listed drugs is testersterone. So if you are a guy and are
> > looking to put a little bit more of the tiger in your tank watch
> > out. You could get arrested for using it.
> > For a true rendering of the Drug Law and its registration
> > requirements and the impact on non-registrants and jurisdiction for
> > prosecution you need an attorney well versed in both federal
> > criminal drug and constitutional law.
> > Otherwise, methinks thou doesn't protestest enough.
> > The best thing is to get all drug laws repealed and save the
> > taxpayers a couple billion dollars a year in wasted tax money and
> > needless incarceration of Drug War prisoners and their prison
> > maintenance costs.
> > Ron Getty
> > SF Libertarian
> > --- In email@example.com, Starchild
> > wrote:
> >> What: A federal rally to protest the violation of due process of
> > medical
> >> marijuana patients. The federal courts have failed to rule on
> > several
> >> motions for patients regarding lack of Federal Agency jurisdiction.
> >> Who: Americans for Safe Access of Sonoma County in conjunction
> > with
> >> Common Sense Law
> >> When: Monday, September 12, 2005, Begin gathering at 11:30 AM
> >> Where: Participants will meet in front of the Federal Building
> > which
> >> houses
> >> the Federal District Court, 450 Golden Gate Avenue, San Francisco,
> > and
> >> walk
> >> to 9th Circuit Court of Appeals at 7th and Mission.
> >> For further information, email commonsenselaw@y... , visit
> >> www.commonsenselaw.com, or call (707) 838-2881.
> >> (Note, Ed Rosenthal's 9th Circuit appeals hearing is the next day)
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Background from Common Sense Law:
> >> We want the legal issue raised in at least two cases to be ruled
> > on and
> >> not
> >> to be continually ignored. The issue effects every patient
> > including Ed
> >> Rosenthal - as it is about the federal agency (DEA, DOJ) lacking
> >> jurisdiction over the patients.
> >> I am attaching our Federal Law on Medical Marijuana. One is a
> > short
> >> 2-pager, the other a 4-pager. Read what fits your time. This is
> > more
> >> basic
> >> than Raich arguments.
> >> And we have public records through Keith Alden's case and appeal
> > to
> >> prove
> >> the violation of his right to due process, which is also denied
> > every
> >> other
> >> patient arrested by the DEA. The DOJ, DEA and courts will
> > continue with
> >> this fraud unless We speak out and hold them accountable.
> >> This is the opportune time, as Keith Alden petitions the 9th
> > Circuit
> >> to
> >> rehear his appeal, since they misstated his written argument in
> > order
> >> not to
> >> rule on the issue of federal agency jurisdiction over patients.
> > And we
> >> have
> >> an attorney who has put forth the same issue in a motion in the US
> > v.
> >> Landa
> >> case - something that Keith was told in a closed hearing in the
> > 9th
> >> Circuit
> >> that an attorney would never do - but it did!
> >> Jurisdiction can be brought up at any time, including for those
> > who
> >> entered
> >> plea bargain contracts. We have available a pro se motion for
> > patients
> >> who
> >> have been arrested or convicted for alleged violation of Federal
> > law on
> >> marijuana, which can also be adapted by attorneys for their client
> >> patients.
> >> Updates on Federal Law on Medical Marijuana are available at our
> >> website
> >> http://www.commonsenselaw.com.
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