Regarding letting anybody express themselves at meetings, I side with
Starchild: if a guest's ideas are welcomed, he/she will be more
inclined to listen our our ideas.
Regarding the no-pledge proponents, it is my personal opinion that
they will not be appeased by an absence of pledge for *non-voting*
associates. The whole idea is to be free to vote in favor of
agression when that is deemed propitious.
Marcy
--- In lpsf-activists@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Denny" <mike@d...> wrote:
> This approach could perhaps bridge the conflicts discussed recently
by
> this list and Brian Holtz regarding the Non-aggression pledge. By
not
> requiring Associate members to sign the pledge, they can
participate in
> the process without risk because they can't vote.
>
>
>
> Something to think about.
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: lpsf-activists@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:lpsf-activists@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcy Berry
> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 12:53 PM
> To: lpsf Activist List
> Subject: [lpsf-activists] Fw: [LPC County Officers] Discounted (or
> subsidized) membershipsfor younger libertarians
>
>
>
> Forwarding for those not on LPC list; this is especially of
interest to
> our Bylaws Committee.
>
>
>
> Marcy
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: M Carling <mailto:m@idiom.com>
>
> To: LPC Officers <mailto:Countyofficers@c...>
>
> Cc: Executive Committee <mailto:Executive-Committee@c...>
>
> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 9:37 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [LPC County Officers] Discounted (or subsidized)
> membershipsfor younger libertarians
>
>
>
> That's a good question. It's something that we've been thinking
> about since the LNC voted to end UMP.
>
> The LPC Bylaws provide for Associate Membership. Per the bylaws,
> Associate Members do not have voting rights. Other than that, the
> LPC Executive Committee can define the dues and benefits
associated
> with Associate Membership.
>
> I've been working on a proposal for the November ExCom meeting to
> establish lower dues ($10 or $20 per year) for Associate Members.
> Per a recent change to the Bylaws, that would be split 60/40 with
the
> county parties like dues for regular membership. I'm planning to
> propose that a valid email address be a condition of Associate
> Membership and that California Freedom (which currently costs $10/
> year per person) would be sent only electronically (no paper
version
> at that price).
>
> I've also been considering proposing a Bylaws change that would
> permit county parties, if they so chose, to make provision in
their
> own bylaws that Associate Members could have debating rights
within
> the county party. In other words, county parties could choose to
let
> Associate Members speak in favor or against a motion but not vote
on
> it. (The status quo is that unanimous consent of the body would
be
> required to let an Associate Member speak.)
>
> This has been on the back burner because our next meeting is still
> eight weeks away and we have been deluged with pressing business.
> However, since Roberto Liebman has raised the question, I would
> appreciate any feedback on the idea.
>
> M Carling
> Chairman, LPC Member Acquisition Cmte
> Chairman, LPC Bylaws Cmte
>
>
>
> On Sep 23, 2005, at 8:33, Daniel Wiener wrote:
>
> > I'm forwarding Roberto's email below.
> >
> > Daniel Wiener
> > CA_Secretary@L...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Roberto Leibman" <roberto@l...>
> > To: <countyofficers@c...>; "Michael Murphy"
> > <mmurphy@s...>; "Robert Page" <rpagemg@n...>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 3:51 PM
> > Subject: Discounted (or subsidized) memberships for younger
> > libertarians
> >
> >
> >
> >> Guys,
> >>
> >> I'm wondering if there's any legal or other ramifications to the
> >> following...
> >>
> >> We are recruiting tons of high school (mostly senior) students
> >> through our
> >> outreach programs. Students are notoriously low on cash but also
> >> notoriously high on energy, commitment, passion and time.
> >>
> >> Has the LPC considered having a discounted membership price for
that
> >> particular age group? What we loose in revenues we win in
> >> volunteerism,
> >> good will and on the long run these same students are more
likely
> >> to stay
> >> with the party as members. The disadvantage to the local
> >> organizations is
> >> that these kids are not likely to remain in our county if they
go to
> >> college, but it's obviously a good thing for the LP as a whole.
> >>
> >> If "youth" memberships aren't on the table any time soon, do
you
> >> know if
> >> there's any problem with the county party subsidizing their
> >> membership? We
> >> have some extra cash (not much, but enough that a few
memberships
> >> won't
> >> affect us), and if we only have to give our 40% (or I'm
confused,
> >> is it
> >> 60%?) to the LPC these might be awsome recruiting tools.
> >>
> >> Roberto Leibman
> >> Chair, Placer County Libertarian Party
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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