You made my day, Starchild! You will notice my words were "I say
we...." which constitutes a vote, not an authorization. Looks to me
that what we do not have is a process, since words alone do not
The proposals are still on the table; the "serious" proposals, as I
1. Phil's: Permit green jitneys to stop at jitney stops established
200 feet from bus stops
2. Justin's: Get rid of taxi medallions
3. Kelly's: Permit green jitneys to stop at bus stops.
I believe, however, that you might be saying that time is running out
on this project, and you might be right!
-- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Starchild <sfdreamer@e...>
Hmm... according to the process described below, the deadline
submitting ballot measure proposals (midnight Sunday) has come and
gone, and I didn't see any submissions. Therefore I guess we
don't have an initiative. Unless someone wants to argue after the
that Marcy had no authority to unilaterally approve my suggestion
process. In which case we're back in limbo.
<<< Starchild >>>
From: "Amarcy D. Berry" <amarcyb@h...>
Date: Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:07:06 PM US/Pacific
Subject: Re: URGENT: [lpsf-activists] Curb Rights/Voting (proposed
Leapin' Lizards! As always, Starchild gets the job done (somehow!).
say let's run with this proposal.
--- In email@example.com, Starchild <sfdreamer@e...>
> Aside from moving things along, and making sure everyone
> the rules by which decisions are made and that those rules are
> to maximize democratic participation, I brought up voting rules
> precisely as a means of getting more activists involved. By giving
> people a vote weighted in proportion to their contribution of
> signatures, we could obtain solid advance commitments and know
> where we stand on the project before we start.
> With these things in mind, I propose the following process
> Since there seems to be no solid consensus on precisely what
is on the
> table right now (taxi medallion deregulation? jitneys? curb
> open the process back up to initiatives on any topic. Anyone
> 50 valid signatures or $150 by so stating in an email to LPSF-
> can submit an initiative proposal. For each additional 50 valid
> signatures or $150 you pledge, you can submit one additional
> (if you want to). Each submission should summarize the proposed
> initiative in 250 words or less, including. Deadline for
> midnight at the end of Sunday. After all the submissions are in,
> Chair or her designee will publish the list of proposals and
> LPSF-activists no later than noon on Monday, at which time voting
> the submissions will commence, and continue until midnight at the
> of Wednesday.
> Every LPSF member gets one vote. For each 50 valid signatures
> you pledge, you get one additional vote. NOTE: pledges used toward
> submitting an initiative proposal cannot also be used to obtain
> additional votes (i.e. if you pledged 50 signatures and submitted
> proposal, you must pledge again if you want an additional vote or
> votes). Non-LPSF members, who do not get an automatic vote, can
> submit proposals or vote by pledging money or signatures, but are
> limited to a total of two votes per person.
> The top two (three if the LPSF as an organization is not
allowed to be
> a proponent -- this has to be checked out with the Elections
> pledgers will have their names on the initiative. If one of them
> doesn't want his or her name on the initiative, he/she can
> this privilege to another person (or group, if the rules allow
> his/her choice. You can vote as many times as you like, up to the
> midnight Wednesday deadline, by pledging additional money or
> after casting your initial vote. The Secretary or her designee
> publish a running tally of the votes to LPSF-activists at least
> between Sunday and Wednesday, and between noon and midnight on
> Wednesday, after each new vote is cast (or as close thereafter as
> reasonably possible).
> Following the voting, the Chair will publish the detailed
> the voting and the resultant pledges to LPSF-activists no later
> noon next Thursday. The top five pledgers will constitute an
> working group responsible for coming up with a full draft of the
> initiative, in consultation with the City Attorney's office and an
> attorney (if one can be obtained). The chair will name one of the
> individuals to head the group, and this person will be responsible
> scheduling meetings. The working group will meet for at least 5
> week until an initiative is completed and ready to be turned in to
> Elections Department. It will decide everything democratically
> its members, three members being required for a quorum in order to
> conduct votes. If one of the top five pledgers does not wish to be
> of the working group, or wishes at some point to resign from it,
> she may name any LPSF member to take his/her place.
> Yours in liberty,
> <<< Starchild >>>
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