Mike
Mike,
I don't buy this theory that Adam Kokesh is some kind of plant. The author seems to have an anti-Jewish axe to grind:
Interestingly enough both Kokesh and [Code Pink leader Medea] Benjamin just happen to be Jewish. The power structure that both of them are claiming to be protesting against is dominated by Jewish extremism but neither of them have focused much attention on this very obvious fact. It is highly probable that their tribal connection is why both of these people have been involved in several highly publicized media events... I think it is a reasonable question to ask how two of the most high profile anti-war protesters just happen to be Jewish.
I've met Adam Kokesh, and got no sense that he is anything other than sincere in his pro-freedom beliefs.
Love & Liberty,
((( starchild )))
Good....just checking.
Mike
But what about those contractors?
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Mike
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Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] Kokesh - Controlled Opposition?Mike,
I don't buy this theory that Adam Kokesh is some kind of plant. The author seems to have an anti-Jewish axe to grind:
Interestingly enough both Kokesh and [Code Pink leader Medea] Benjamin just happen to be Jewish. The power structure that both of them are claiming to be protesting against is dominated by Jewish extremism but neither of them have focused much attention on
this very obvious fact. It is highly probable that their tribal connection is why both of these people have been involved in several highly publicized media events... I think it is a reasonable question to ask how two of the most high profile anti-war protesters
just happen to be Jewish.
What contractors, John?
Love & Liberty,
((( starchild )))
Oh, never mind -- just saw your other message. I agree the article you link there about the presence of unidentified uniformed personnel at the Boston bombing location raises good questions.
Love & Liberty,
((( starchild )))
I was poking fun at the website for pandering to the paranoid with the article about ."contractor types" being around the Marathon.
You know what that is right? Mullets. Muscle cars. Smoke cigarettes. Drink on the job. Kinda like rednecks but won't work in factories...always up to no good self employment. Build cities and stuff.
Well, it could be nothing -- conspiracy theory-making run amok -- or it could be that authorities on the scene in Boston were doing something they don't want the public to know about, either truly criminal or merely embarrassing to those in power. Hard to say without more evidence. But I don't blame anyone for asking questions about such things. When satisfactory official explanations of unexplained facts are not forthcoming, other explanations, correct or not, are likely to be offered. Ultimately it always remains up to each of us as an individual to sort out what seems likely from what does not.
Love & Liberty,
((( starchild )))
Yes...and this is while we know for sure drones are killing people and all the reasons for the bombing are true. But we are so impotent and distracted we are chasing ghosts.
"Chasing ghosts" describes this perfectly. There are many real questions about the bombing, but this is hardly one. The same kind of phony issues dominate the "911 Truth" movement and the JFK murder theorists. I suspect the phony issues are deliberately spread by the government to confuse people. In the same way, they spread Rozwell space-alien stories to hide their radar antenna experiments.
The real issue about the Boston bombers are at least FBI and police incompetence or possibly complicity. Tamarlan Tsarnaev committed a triple murder, killing someone he had called his best friend, and was never interviewed by the police. When Russia made inquiry about him, he still was not questioned about the murder. Then the FBI supposedly found a suspect accomplice in that triple murder, but shot him to death during an interview!
Conspiracy theorists should be calling the police agencies to task on that, instead of chasing ghostly images of "contractors". Does the gov't organize the witch hunts to distract us? I don't know, but it sure looks suspicious.
Harland
Yes! Thanks, But even that is second-generation misconduct from the first-generation misconduct, producing the retaliation to begin with.
Harland,
Are you suggesting that these two hypotheticals are mutually exclusive?
(1) Tamarlan Tsarnaev wasn't interviewed by police, and FBI shot to death a supposed co-conspirator of his during an interview, because they were complicit in the Boston bombing.
(2) Government sources have failed to explain the presence of uniformed "contractor" type personnel visible at the site of the Boston bombing because they have something to hide with regard to those personnel.
Seems to me that both theories could be simultaneously true. Or simultaneously false.
Love & Liberty,
((( starchild )))
Indeed, the theories are mutually exclusive. Note that the government is not a monolith. If an intelligence agency arranged the bombing, only a few people would know the whole truth. Any law-enforcement function carried out by the "secret contractors" in the video would be the innocent response of legitimate police officials. The government of Massachusetts, and most Federal agencies, would still have been trying to stop terrorism.
Only agencies like the Mossad or CIA and would know the entire plot. They would be secretly misusing the information they gather in order to guide and advance terrorist attacks instead of preventing them. Learning of the Tsarnaev's, they would have protected the brothers from the murder charge, protected them from the Russians, and then helped them find resources to carry out their attacks.
The same actions would explain 9-11, the anthrax and ricin attacks, the "underwear bomber", and possibly more. In each case, law enforcement appears to have skipped ordinary procedures at crucial points, letting the terrorists get away. Those omissions would not be by chance; the intelligence agents would have instructed law enforcement officials how to proceed, citing secret information. Having no access to that information, law enforcement continues to believe that intelligence agencies are working with them to fight terrorism, instead of against them.
Harland Harrison
Harland,
I agree the government is not monolithic, and that is always important to understand when analyzing these events. But "if an intelligence agency arranged the bombing" as you speculate may have occurred, then the "contractors" could have been their personnel there to carry out that operation. We don't know who they are, or why they were there. That's what makes them "persons of interest".
Love & Liberty,
((( starchild )))
The Tsarnaev brothers set off the bombs. If so, the "contractors" would have nothing nefarious to do. Besides, we can see those "contractors" and wonder who they are. The ATF, FBI, Boston police, and senior Democrats, and Republicans, etc can see them, too. Unlike us, those people would have to be given some plausible answer.
Harland Harrison
Well, since as you say the government personnel on the ground there, or watching the video later can also see the "contractors", and would have to have been given some plausible explanation for their presence, then government officials should have no problem passing along that explanation of who the "contractors" are to the public, right? If they fail to provide any such explanation (as is apparently being alleged), then that raises legitimate questions, doesn't it?
Love & Liberty,
((( starchild )))
Yes, it certainly does. However, the answer to these particular questions may only show secret police work, possibly against US laws or policies. So what? On the other hand, a government which knowingly kills its citizens for political purposes merits our attention.
Harland Harrison
Harland,
Do you want to help with the Bradley Manning Freedom Torch Procession-Presidential Pardon?
Do you want to help with the Bradley Manning Freedom Torch Procession-Presidential Pardon?
How? What is it, exactly?
Harland Harrison
Chair, LP of San Mateo CA
Rep Barbara Lee of Oakland CA was the only member of Congress to vote against the attack on Afghanistan. Now she is sponsoring a bill to repeal the Authorization for Use of Military Force because it is unconstitutional.
Please join me in signing her petition to other members of Congress to support the repeal of the AUMF:
http://org.credoaction.com/petitions/tell-congress-repeal-the-blank-check-for-perpetual-war
Please spread the message.
for Liberty,
Harland Harrison
Libertarian Party of San Mateo County CA