Iraq & Sudan (was: Should we nominate this guy for a Jefferson award?)

Oops, forgot the link:
http://sudanwatch.blogspot.com/2005/04/new-analysis-claims-darfur-
deaths-near.html

  By way of comparison on the numbers, a group called Sudan Watch
estimated in April that around 400,000 people have been killed in the
past couple years at a continuing rate of 500 a day in Darfur -- where,
of course, there has been no international intervention, just as there
was none to speak of in Rwanda. The deaths are generally blamed on the
regime in Sudan, which was also a few years ago accused of harboring al
Qaeda, but that regime never seems to come in for the kind of
denunciations that the U.S. government does for its shared role in
Iraqi casualties reaching perhaps 1/10th the Sudanese total. Strange
how the world works.

Yours in liberty,
        <<< Starchild >>>

Mike,

  Do you really think the U.S. military killed 100,000 Iraqis during
the
invasion, or are you counting all the people killed by the insurgents
since then? That number sounds way high to me even counting the latter
-- which of course I do not think it is fair to lay on the shoulders
of
the U.S. government. A November 2003 article from a self-described
"progressive" site puts the total of "the invasion and its aftermath"
at 21,000 to 55,000, and of that number, incidentally, estimates
civilian deaths (whether killed by U.S. forces, insurgents, or others)
at under 10,000 -- http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1111-10.htm
. Sure you could argue that the invasion was the "root cause" of all
those deaths, just as leftists say poverty, racism, capitalism, etc.,
are "root causes" of crime, but don't we believe in individual
responsibility?

  And of course I don't see any of the deaths as "ours" -- for good or
ill, we're talking about the U.S. government, which doesn't represent
me any more than a rapist represents his victim -- even presuming the
rapist is my court-appointed guardian and I living as his dependent.
Just because I may think part of the rape wasn't too bad doesn't make
me responsible for the act, does it?

  While I agree that 9/11 was an effective demonstration of the
shortcomings of military security, that "demonstration" sure came at
an
awful price, didn't it? I would rather be spared any further such
demonstrations.

Yours in liberty,
        <<< Starchild >>>

I don't, indeed, see it as a very big stretch to consider as
terrorism
our killing 100,000 Iraqis in an unprovoked attack on their country.
And 9/11 was a splendid demonstration how just how worthless out
military security is. If this guy can get that far singlehandedly in
disabling government, that seems to me like a good thing. And
there's
no more dangerous or important branch of government to disable than
what
used to be called the War Department.

From: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Starchild
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 5:07 PM
To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] Should we nominate this guy for a
Jefferson
award?

Mike,

  Even if you see the U.S. government's foreign policy as akin to
terrorism (a very big stretch in my view), do you really think it
laudable that this guy apparently caused military security to be
relaxed on the anniversary of the September 11 attacks?

    <<< Starchild >>>

24) Hacker "left note on US army computer"
Guardian [UK]

"A British man accused of hacking into the US military computer
system
left a note on an army computer saying US foreign policy 'is akin to
government-sponsored terrorism,' a court heard today. Gary
McKinnon's
note continued: 'It was not a mistake that there was a huge security
stand-down on September 11 last year ... I am SOLO [the name by
which
he was known online]. I will continue to disrupt at the highest
levels,' the court was told." (07/27/05)

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