Heavy Voter Turnout Among The Young At Heart And Age

Dear All;

Very interesting article about the Youth Movement in this elction. Which of course points out a gap in how Libertarians reach out to the youth movement. I also believe Ron Paul had some magic touch which also got young people involved in his campaign.

So what are we doing to go to the youth???

Young voter turnout likely sets new record

Young Americans can finally shake off their reputation for civic apathy. Young people appear to have voted in higher numbers than ever before, preliminary reports show. And analysts say this demographic’s heavy tilt toward Barack Obama was a determining factor in his historic victory.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27562023/?GT1=43001

Ron Getty - SF Libertarian
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Dear Ron and All,

You ask what are we doing to reach youth. In my personal opinion, not
much. In my experience as a Mom and recently as a volunteer in the
Ron Paul campaign, I see that youth responds to action, and the
Libertarian Party has, I believe, been more partial to discussion.
Also, at least in the LPSF, we members have tended to try to reach
youth in cannabis festivals and other non-main stream venues (see my
rant on the cannabis festival!); and the youth the article is
discussing is main-stream.

I suggest that if we want to reach youth, we will need to find a way
to translate our political ideas into action.

Marcy

Dear All;

Very interesting article about the Youth Movement in this elction.

Which of course points out a gap in how Libertarians reach out to the
youth movement. I also believe Ron Paul had some magic touch which
also got young people involved in his campaign.

So what are we doing to go to the youth???

Young voter turnout likely sets new record

Young Americans can finally shake off their reputation for civic

apathy. Young people appear to have voted in higher numbers than ever
before, preliminary reports show. And analysts say this demographic¢s
heavy tilt toward Barack Obama was a determining factor in his
historic victory.

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Dear Peter,

Thank you for the excellent example of where action could be taken.
The "End the Fed" campaign is pretty timely, given the recent bail
out, interest rates on conservative investments threatening to go down
to zero, etc. I think if we look around, there are lots of other
opportunities. But, again, picking ourselves up and doing a tabling,
or other action, is what we need to work on!

Regards,

Marcy

--- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Nicholas Krembs"
<p.krembs@...> wrote:

I agree, and on this note, I recommend LPers check this site out:
http://www.endthefed.us/

Looks pretty legit.

> Dear Ron and All,
>
> You ask what are we doing to reach youth. In my personal opinion, not
> much. In my experience as a Mom and recently as a volunteer in the
> Ron Paul campaign, I see that youth responds to action, and the
> Libertarian Party has, I believe, been more partial to discussion.
> Also, at least in the LPSF, we members have tended to try to reach
> youth in cannabis festivals and other non-main stream venues (see my
> rant on the cannabis festival!); and the youth the article is
> discussing is main-stream.
>
> I suggest that if we want to reach youth, we will need to find a way
> to translate our political ideas into action.
>
> Marcy
>
> --- In lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com

<lpsf-discuss%40yahoogroups.com>, Ron

Marcy,

  Cannabis is pretty mainstream. For instance, "Half of 16- and 17-year olds say that among their age group smoking marijuana is more common than smoking cigarettes" (http://www.casacolumbia.org/absolutenm/templates/PressReleases.aspx?articleid=533&zoneid=66). Probably more mainstream than Ron Paul! What kind of mainstream outreach did you have in mind?

Love & Liberty,
        ((( starchild )))

Hi Starchild,

You are entirely correct that plenty of young people smoke cannabis;
like they drink beer or party late. However, they do not identify
with any cannabis or partying late community. Most are too busy with
work and school to care much what happens at cannabis festivals. You
ask what mainstream outreach to young people I have in mind. Perhaps
Rachel's LP Meetup Group, or Lawrence Samuel's JSA tablings, or
rallying around a popular political candidate.

I have ranted enough about the LP's need to tone down its lunatic
image (as one of my clients told me recently). Or as someone
expressed at the last LPSF meeting, the "kook factor"...and this in
reference to *my* idea about participating in the End the Fed Rally on
Nov 22.

Regards,

Marcy

Marcy,

  You have a point about the difference between occasionally using cannabis, and identifying with the cannabis community. The latter might fairly be described as "non-mainstream." I am all for participating in the "End The Fed!" rally, and plan to do so, despite the fact that it is less of a mainstream cause in San Francisco than cannabis.

  On the so-called "kook factor" however, I think we should be mindful of the concepts of "community pride" and "identity politics" that have worked so well for various minority groups. I suggest we take pride in hardcore libertarianism, identify as a libertarian *community*, and refuse to be defined, labeled, or criticized beyond a certain point by outsiders, but instead put them on the defensive when they attack members of our community for being "kooky" or whatever. Pointedly ask whether charges of "kookiness," etc. made against libertarians are simply "code words" for statist intolerance and bigotry against freedom, etc.

  Identity politics can be pretty toxic when people are encouraged to seek state privilege as a result of ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, or what-not, but to the degree we strengthen a sense of libertarian identity and community, I think they can also be made to work in favor of creating a free society.

Love & Liberty,
        ((( starchild )))

Hi Starchild,

I am planning to come to the Fed Rally on Nov 22 also. I see that some
members of the San Francisco Campaign for Liberty Meetup Group
(formerly Ron Paul Meetup Group) have RSVP'd Yes for this event posted
in their site. And BTW harking back to our comments re:
libertarianism and kookiness, look at the new afore-mentioned Group
website and their description of themselves as the fighters for
liberty in San Francisco. Absent kookiness, they might be more
successful than us? Well, I will just keep ranting that hard core
libertarianism is not inevitably tied to unusual behavior.

Marcy