# Heard at MANNY’s last night: Muni/-US$322M & BART/-US$375M barrel towards fiscal cliffs **URL:** \ **Category:** Discussion\ **Created:** [June 19, 2025, 7:21pm UTC](https://forum.lpsf.org/t/heard-at-manny-s-last-night-muni-us-322m-bart-us-375m-barrel-towards-fiscal-cliffs/22329 "2025-06-19T19:21:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 2\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![FRNP](https://forum.lpsf.org/user_avatar/forum.lpsf.org/frnp/32/908_2.png) [@FRNP](https://forum.lpsf.org/u/FRNP)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 7:21pm UTC](https://forum.lpsf.org/t/heard-at-manny-s-last-night-muni-us-322m-bart-us-375m-barrel-towards-fiscal-cliffs/22329/1 "2025-06-19T19:21:19Z")
**[Jeff](https://forum.lpsf.org/u/jeff)**, I hope to see reports on rising Memberships & Donations now that the LPSF has issued a virtual tongue lashing to the LPNH ( 3,000 miles away ) as the LPSF _ignores_ kitchen table issues hitting all San Franciscans where it counts & hurts most… To wit: Was anyone at [**MANNY’S** \* _last night_](https://www.eventbrite.com/e/chronicle-live-can-the-bay-area-save-public-transit-tickets-1384186863169?aff=ebdsoporgprofile&_gl=1*16qmu9z*_up*MQ..*_gs*Mg..&gclid=CjwKCAjw6s7CBhACEiwAuHQckuhCF_hC0fX8cuqM_qIzfOnYgO9vTU3aUiWeES7pwZLXoZ2_gPqVaBoCkYIQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds) to hear specifics from the horses’ mouths, State Sen **Scott Weiner** et al, breaking down the fiscal catastrophes & burdens SF/CCC & CA Tax Payers will soon be _asked_/_cajoled_/ **FORCED** to shoulder? **Wednesday, June 18, 2025 · 6 - 7:30pm PDT** \*\*The MUNI & BART transit _schemes_ barrel towards a fiscal cliff : Bay Area’s public transit is in crisis : **Muni is staring down a $322 Millions budget shortfall.** **BART’s deficit is north of $375 Millions.** ![MANNYS muni & bart centimillion$$$ shortfalls catastrophes brewing](https://forum.lpsf.org/uploads/default/original/2X/a/aee7855d680079cc4a7808014adefe1f8a003cd7.png) After _ **ongoing** _ alarms from earlier this year, I hope this gets addressed — with at least a letter(?) to authorities in charge — in upcoming LPSF Meetings & at the upcoming State CONvention so the LPSF/CCCLP/LPCA can remain relevant to SF/CCC/CA TaxPayers/Voters who are clearly not getting a proper ROI on their fleeced Earnings&Savings under the tyranny of current **D** -_Graded_ elected officials. \*\*US$7Billions in CA TaxDollars spent on CA High Speed Rail Boondoggle by Gov _Nuisance NewScum_ Newsome without laying a foot of track, ![CAGSO gov nuissance in sf today](https://forum.lpsf.org/uploads/default/original/2X/d/d9a8aa9e69d6ebcc4bf0093e5e5cd2c00fb89663.jpeg) I’ll be at speaking on stage at MANNY’s at **6p Wed 6 Aug** on other **Liberty & Freedom** issues **[Jeff](https://forum.lpsf.org/u/jeff)** formerly led on, & following in the footsteps of my Dartmouth classmate **Sen Kirsten Gillibrand D/NY** who was the first of the 2016 candidate to speak there, among a dozen D contenders who failed to defeat Clownish rTrump/#45. Have any LPSF Members/Leaders been invited to speak to MANNY’s very engaged activist & well-heeled audiences? ![@SFPride Manny’s @SFWNBR Handout a side](https://forum.lpsf.org/uploads/default/original/2X/b/bf9e85fd2d2d6b74d4158cc8c359661f6ae6036c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Gina](https://forum.lpsf.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/58956e/32.png) [@Gina](https://forum.lpsf.org/u/Gina)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 1:33am UTC](https://forum.lpsf.org/t/heard-at-manny-s-last-night-muni-us-322m-bart-us-375m-barrel-towards-fiscal-cliffs/22329/2 "2025-06-20T01:33:14Z")
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