That would be kinda like asking Thomas Paine to give an example of religious tolerance and liberal democracies like Germany or Russia.
And "hacker" is kinda like "gun owner". S omebody shot me once but I don't want to beat up every gun owner.
So nobody has an example of an anarchical state (country/significantly large diverse social group), and that is OK; there are none.
Wrong, a hacker is not like a gun owner, since he receive that name from what he/she does not what he/she owns. And I still will beat them up if they cross my path.
Marcy
Marcy....think of it like this. A hacker is like a person who likes to dismantle a clock to learn how it works. They might even figure out a way to make it do something not intended by the clock maker....like make it start the coffee pot in the AM or something else.
And there is a hacker that might want to make it into a time device for a bomb.
Today I used hacker code to beef up the power of my wireless router that I paid for fair and square complete with their relatively simplistic firmware.
All these circumstances involving hacking and hackers...so the hacker is like a gun owner.
Mike
In the early days of radio and even today, they were called "hams". They led the development of radio with their experiments and innovations. That they were required to have licenses is another discussion of government monopoly.
The folks that introduced me to Noisedbridge are boat-hackers. It also relates to a style of hands-on learning that has been abandoned by our culture in favor of socialist institutions.
The hackers are very aware of the totalitarian wind, blowing through every door, window, and crevice of our society.
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Subject: RE: [lpsf-discuss] Re: do-acracyMarcy….think of it like this. A hacker is like a person who likes to dismantle a clock to learn how it works. They might even figure out a way to make it do something not intended by the clock maker….like make it start the coffee pot in the AM or something else.
And there is a hacker that might want to make it into a time device for a bomb.
Today I used hacker code to beef up the power of my wireless router that I paid for fair and square complete with their relatively simplistic firmware.
All these circumstances involving hacking and hackers…so the hacker is like a gun owner.
Mike
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Subject: [lpsf-discuss] Re: do-acracySo nobody has an example of an anarchical state (country/significantly large diverse social group), and that is OK; there are none.
Wrong, a hacker is not like a gun owner, since he receive that name from what he/she does not what he/she owns. And I still will beat them up if they cross my path.
Marcy
That would be kinda like asking Thomas Paine to give an example of religious tolerance and liberal democracies like Germany or Russia.
And "hacker" is kinda like "gun owner". S omebody shot me once but I don't want to beat up every gun owner.
------------------------------>John, as I said before, your posts are often over my head. I thought my previous posts were asking for specific examples of anarchical states (states, such as Italy, France, Chile).
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>BTW, if I ever meet a hacker face to face, I will personally beat him/her up with my bare hands. Try running a business with some fool threatening your client files!
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>Marcy
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>> Anti police brutality demonstration going on.
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>> > From: Starchild
>> >To: lpsf-discuss@yahoogroups.com
>> >Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 5:31 PM
>> >Subject: Re: [lpsf-discuss] do-acracy
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>> >John,
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>> >I've been to Noisebridge and am roughly familiar with it, but haven't spent too much time there. Did not know about these rules, but am fascinated to see they are seeking to use such a pure consensus model. Have you seen it in action much? What happens
when problems arise?
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>> >Love & Liberty,
>> >((( starchild )))
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>> > Marcy,
>> > Noisebridge is a hackerspace in SF. It is totally awesome. I am there now.
>> > The official capacity of police is prohibited without a warrant.
>> > These are the rules:
>> > Tripartite Pillars
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>> > Excellence
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>> > Be excellent to each other is the guiding principle of Noisebridge. Wikipedia uses a somewhat similar rule, which they call "the fundamental rule of all social spaces. Every other policy for getting along is a special case of it." Unlike Wikipedia, Noisebridge
takes a positive approach, and avoids the practice of officially enumerating the myriad potential special cases; "be excellent" is enough.
>> > Consensus
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>> > We make official Noisebridge decisions by consensus, which means the willing consent of all of our members. Decisions are made at our weekly meetings, and items proposed for consensus are announced at least a week in advance to give everyone time to
hear about them. Members may block by proxy if they are unable to attend or if they wish to block anonymously.