DEBATE AT FREE EXCHANGE on Sept. 18, 2004

Hi Friends!
                             A BIG WELCOME TO

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                        A San Francisco Supper Club

            Dedicated to Rationality, Objectivity, Free Minds,
                             and Free Markets.

   ON SATURDAY EVENING, SEPTEMBER 18, 2004 THERE WILL BE

   A DEBATE with DR. IVAN ELAND and TIM STARR on:

"WHAT IS THE PROPER FOREIGN POLICY FOR A FREE SOCIETY?"

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DESCRIPTION:

The tragedy of September 11, 2001 for most of us was appalling
and heartbreaking. But it also was a watershed event for

libertarians.

They had to decide which was the most consistent reaction to

espouse,

according to their libertarian principles. At times there have been

heated

and emotional arguments among libertarians. However, not all

pro-war

types think that all anti-war people are ridiculous, and vice-versa.
Libertarian doves are following the Rothbardian legacy, and come in

many

varieties. Moreover, Libertarian hawks do not necessarily support

much

of U.S. policy, past or present; they also come in different

varieties.

I expect this debate to be enlightening for even the most

well-informed

libertarians. Don't mis it! The debate is going to be advertised

by press

release to local papers and the LP News. RESERVATIONS BY E-MAIL OR
PHONE STRONGLY RECOMMENDED, as we only have about 50 seats
(although the floor will be available). ;>)
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BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCHES:

IVAN ELAND, representing the military isolationist side, is Senior

Fellow

and Director of the Center on Peace & Liberty at The Independent
Institute and Assistant Editor of The Independent Review. Dr. Eland
is a graduate of Iowa State University and received an M.B.A. in

applied

economics and Ph.D. in national security policy from George

Washington

University. He has been Director of Defense Policy Studies at the

Cato

Institute, Principal Defense Analyst at the Congressional Budget

Office,

Evaluator-in-Charge (national security and intelligence) for the

U.S.

General Accounting Office, and Investigator for the House Foreign
Affairs Committee. He has testified on the military and financial

aspects

of NATO expansion before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee,
and on CIA oversight before the House Government Reform Committee,
and the Department of Homeland Security before the Senate Judiciary
Committee.

Dr. Eland is the author of Putting "Defense" Back into U.S. Defense

Policy:

Rethinking U.S. Security in the Post-Cold War World and The Efficacy

of

Economic Sanctions as a Foreign Policy Tool." He is a contributor

to

numerous volumes, and the author of forty-five in-depth studies on
national security issues. His articles have appeared in Arms Control

Today,

Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, Emory Law Journal, The

Independent

Review, Issues in Science and Technology (National Academy of

Sciences),

Mediterranean Quarterly, Middle East and International Review,

Middle East

Policy, Nexus, and Northwestern Journal of International Affairs.

Dr. Eland's popular writings have appeared in such publications as

the Los

Angeles Times, USA Today, Houston Chronicle, Philadelphia Inquirer,

Dallas

Morning News, Insight, San Diego Union-Tribune, Washington Post,

Miami

Herald, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Newsday, Sacramento Bee, Orange

County

Register, Chicago Sun-Times, Washington Times and Defense News. He

has

appeared on ABC's "World News Tonight," NPR's "Talk of the Nation,"

PBS,

Fox News Channel, CNBC, CNN, CNN "Crossfire," CNN-fn, CNN

International,

C-SPAN, MSNBC, CBC, Radio Free Europe, Voice of America, BBC, and

other

local, national, and international TV and radio programs.

TIM STARR, representing the pro-self defense through preemption

side,

attended U.C. Santa Barbara. Afterwards, as a Libertarian Party

staffer, he

campaigned for Marrou for President in 1992, and was a member and
volunteer for the Libertarian Party of California for several years
afterwards.

Mr. Starr is a military historian and scholar, having read over a

thousand

books on international history and especially military history, as

well as

foreign policy. He has lectured and debated at Free Exchange several

times

in recent years, and more recently this summer gave a talk and

participated

in a debate on the "War on Terror or War on Freedom?" at the ERIS
Conference in Aspen, Colorado. Since 9-11, Mr. Starr has created a

yahoo

list for pro-war libertarians called "FightForLiberty," and is

planning to

start
a website of the same name very soon. Its URL will be

FightForLiberty.org.

Tim Starr's profession is the computer industry, most recently in

startups.

Currently Mr. Starr works at Topica.com in San Francisco, and is the

Privacy

and Standards Associate.

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QUOTE OF THE MONTH:

One of my favourite quotes comes from H. L. Mencken. He said that
"For every complex problem there is a solution that is simple, neat

and

wrong".

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ANNOUNCEMENT:

For those of you who don't already know, Mike Mayakis, a past Free
Exchange speaker and debater, died last Sunday after an 8-year

battle

with CLL (Chronic Leukemia). His significant other, Betty

Huneycutt,

says, "Please feel free to pass this along to anyone that knew Mike

and

help me spread the word. I will be holding a memorial at some time

in

the future. If anyone wants to write me my e-mail address is
betmeee@.... Our home address is 4632 18th Street, #1, S.F.,
CA 94114. Phone: 415-552-1876. If you want to attend the
memorial, please send me an e-mail so I can start making a list."

Mike

always had a positive outlook on and zest for life and we will miss

him.

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ADMISSION/DONATION (TAX DEDUCTIBLE): only $10 for bar drinks,
food, room and speaker!

LOCATION:

Opera Plaza Homeowners Community Rec Room
Mezzanine Floor (take elevator in front of movie theatre)
601 Van Ness Ave., between Turk & Golden Gate
San Francisco

SCHEDULE:

6:30 Social / Happy Hour
8:00 Announcements, Introduction
8:15 DEBATE
~9:15-9:30 Quick Break, then Q&A Session
~10:00 Open-ended socializing

FOOD TABLE:

Many gourment pleasures of hearty and fun food, booze,
sodas, fruit juices, etc. Please feel free to fill in with
whatever food or drink you want, especially your favorites.
Adding to the table ~always~ helps! Call Jeanie @
510-508-7875 if you want to get suggestions. Or just
donate a few bucks to the food table if you can.

DIRECTIONS:

From the Peninsula, take 101 to the DUBOCE AVE/
MISSION ST. exit towards the GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE.
Turn RIGHT on US-101 NORTH which is MISSION, then
LEFT onto VAN NESS AVENUE. Turn LEFT on HAYES -
the first left-hand turn after Market. Immediately Take a
RIGHT onto FRANKLIN. Opera Plaza is enclosed by
Franklin, Turk, Golden Gate and Van Ness.

PARKING:

If you are not taking public transportation, just after 6:00
you can find ~free~ street parking right around the Plaza,
especially on Franklin. Franklin is the street behind the
Opera House, parallel to Gough and Van Ness. Or park on
Turk or Golden Gate. There's always the underground lot in
front of City Hall with an entrance on McAllister, which
costs $5-$10, depending on whether there's a special event.
But if you park underground at Opera Plaza (entrance on
Turk), it costs $18.

FUTURE EVENTS:

OCT. 16th - Professor DAN KLEIN on "THE PEOPLES' ROMANCE:
WHY PEOPLE LOVE GOVERNMENT (AS MUCH AS THEY DO)."
MICHAEL CLOUD may appear.

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Toward a civil (apolitical, private) society,

Jeanie Kennedy, MBA
Director, Free Exchange
A San Francisco Supper Club
Dedicated to Objectivity, Rationality,
Free Markets and Free Minds
Cell: (510) 508-7875

* Free Exchange~ usually happens on the 3rd Saturday evening
of every other month.

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